For those that doubt Yukon Axles

[RWKHausSupply]

You made this statement, PLUS that for the past 2yrs, Yukon has stepped up its quality & warrantee. Well then i believe this speaks for itself as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzyAVPTM8c&NR=1

Glad i have ARB's!!!

Now you want to bring up not apples to apples, so close to that.

You might want a Zip OVER your arb, since I think you are talking D30 arb, right?

That test was done after ARB brought out thier new design air locker, due to so many ford 9" and D60 big boy differential issues.

The Yukon Zip is actually based on the ARB old style with some changes.

So, since ARB will NOT release what models they compared, you can only refer to the video and make your own conclusions...

looks as though the zip broke Internally at 6271lbs/ft +/-200. there are only a few off the shelf shafts that can withstand over that amount of torque the arb axle broke at.... The 35 spline stuff for one and in Yukon hardcore or warn. Or some custom 300M shafts.

SO does that mean they used a custom shaft that was tested so that it would fail before the inside of the ARB and yet after the ZIP? I am guessing yes.

ARB says in the video that after the Zip locker blew up, that it would have caused so much damage that you would need a new ring and pinion, new axles seals, new pinion seal, new carrier bearings, new pinion bearings, etc... BS! When they go on to over exagerate to that extent I dis credit the whole video...

I LOVE ARB's! I think there is not another locker that is as strong or better built. But just like building a cage out of Titanium or 4130, or DOM... Each has its strengths. And if you call me with a 40"+ tire I am selling you a ARB. If you call with a Jeep D30 or D44 on 33's or even 35's & your safe on a ZIP Locker and save about 200-300$ (25-30%), when why not?

Just like your lil D30, your axles cant handle over 4000lbs/ft of torque, so who cares if the ARB or ZIP breaks at 4500 or 5500 or 10,000lbs/ft of torque??

 

[jeeperjohn]

If someone was making a locker out of unobtainium and it breaks at 25,000 foot pounds, someone is still gonna question it. The bottom line is that if people who know what they are talking about say a product is plenty strong for a specific use then it is a safe bet that it is. If you're the kind of person who needs a certain name on the box to make you feel better then pay the extra money and have a warm fuzzy. Me...I is po' so I get what I can afford that will be sufficient.

 

[Mike L]

Better watch out for ROBERTK.... He thinks he is GOD...

 

[Kittrell]

Now you want to bring up not apples to apples, so close to that.

You might want a Zip OVER your arb, since I think you are talking D30 arb, right?

That test was done after ARB brought out thier new design air locker, due to so many ford 9" and D60 big boy differential issues.

The Yukon Zip is actually based on the ARB old style with some changes.

So, since ARB will NOT release what models they compared, you can only refer to the video and make your own conclusions...

looks as though the zip broke Internally at 6271lbs/ft +/-200. there are only a few off the shelf shafts that can withstand over that amount of torque the arb axle broke at.... The 35 spline stuff for one and in Yukon hardcore or warn. Or some custom 300M shafts.

SO does that mean they used a custom shaft that was tested so that it would fail before the inside of the ARB and yet after the ZIP? I am guessing yes.

ARB says in the video that after the Zip locker blew up, that it would have caused so much damage that you would need a new ring and pinion, new axles seals, new pinion seal, new carrier bearings, new pinion bearings, etc... BS! When they go on to over exagerate to that extent I dis credit the whole video...

I LOVE ARB's! I think there is not another locker that is as strong or better built. But just like building a cage out of Titanium or 4130, or DOM... Each has its strengths. And if you call me with a 40"+ tire I am selling you a ARB. If you call with a Jeep D30 or D44 on 33's or even 35's & your safe on a ZIP Locker and save about 200-300$ (25-30%), when why not?

Just like your lil D30, your axles cant handle over 4000lbs/ft of torque, so who cares if the ARB or ZIP breaks at 4500 or 5500 or 10,000lbs/ft of torque??

So what you're basically saying is, "Their products are better than ours, but you guys don't need stuff that good."................:thumbup:

 

[RWKHausSupply]

Ya know whats funny and he was just in Cali at a meeting for the Rockster (A JK that was built and I did axles in, and many others did thier part for) and after Pomona we couldnt even beg them to come out to the Hammers with the rest of us (Rock Krawler, River Raider, AJ's, JK Adventures etc).

But he was way cool... Hoping they build me the Shackles they said they would...

 

[RWKHausSupply]

So what you're basically saying is, "Their products are better than ours, but you guys don't need stuff that good."................:thumbup:

huh?

 

[Kittrell]

Read what I quoted a few more times, it'll click eventually, I hope.

 

[GSequoia]

So what you're basically saying is, "Their products are better than ours, but you guys don't need stuff that good."................:thumbup:

And the Yukon goes SNAP.

 

[RWKHausSupply]

Read what I quoted a few more times, it'll click eventually, I hope.

nope, no clicky...

Whose stuff? Yukon, well they didnt say that. And as for stuff that good not being needed, sure everyone needs a cage made from titanium, and walker evan beadlocks, and a ls6, atlas, and some trapadors. But in reality most get buy just fine in comps and just wheeling without a cage at all, steel rims, a 4.0 w exh and int, a SYE, and some MTR's...

But daym if you want to spend more for a product that is better then you will need, then have at it. My self or others will happily sell you a higher cost product and make more profit. Even if you dont need it....

 

[RWKHausSupply]

And the Yukon goes SNAP.

They would be perfect for your rig Sequoia... Since you dont wheel they cant 'Snap"... :roflmao:

 

[RWKHausSupply]

LOL So Yukon / Randy's had a bit of rebutle..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LmP0SNb96I&feature=related

Seriously though...

If you can afford the extra 100+$ for a ARB, have at it. But in a D30 or D35 even more D44 diff's, the Zip is stronger then the axles by a margin, so why spend more for something that you wont need. If you want more then needed and got money, BUY IT! It helps the economy

 

[toyotawrench]

assgas:

lol....

.!. .!.

 

[Loose_Nuts_Enterprises]

That test was pretty informative, but I'd like to see a similar test, say to 80% of each brands' yield strength, and see how many cycles each one will last before they fail. Wheeling is all about repeatability and how long the products will last, not just how strong it is for a one time stress.

-Dan

 

[RWKHausSupply]

That test was pretty informative, but I'd like to see a similar test, say to 80% of each brands' yield strength, and see how many cycles each one will last before they fail. Wheeling is all about repeatability and how long the products will last, not just how strong it is for a one time stress.

-Dan

That is about the most (maybe only, lol) intellegent request so far...

I agree a repetitive say 3000lbs/ft testing of each...

 

[Milford Cubicle II]

sigh... A seemingly cool/informative post has taken a horrible turn

X2

That test was pretty informative, but I'd like to see a similar test, say to 80% of each brands' yield strength, and see how many cycles each one will last before they fail. Wheeling is all about repeatability and how long the products will last, not just how strong it is for a one time stress.

-Dan

X3

 

[Mike L]

I thought my request with a u-joint would be good as well. :cheers:

 

[RWKHausSupply]

I thought my request with a u-joint would be good as well. :cheers:

It could be but then whose joints? And what if a distorting joint influences the results. The way these were tested basically was with a super strong ujoint. Since the axles were attached at the ujoint end with the ears.

 

[djblade311]

I take each vendors strength tests with a grain of salt when they do their own in house testing. I value professional 3rd party reviews much more so its not biased

 

[Darky]

LOL So Yukon / Randy's had a bit of rebutle..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LmP0SNb96I&feature=related

Seriously though...

If you can afford the extra 100+$ for a ARB, have at it. But in a D30 or D35 even more D44 diff's, the Zip is stronger then the axles by a margin, so why spend more for something that you wont need. If you want more then needed and got money, BUY IT! It helps the economy

I like the idea of overkill. Just because the ARB or Zip locker is rated higher than the shafts doesn't mean the shafts will always break first. If that were the case, no one would've ever broken a Zip or ARB in their D30, but people do break them. I would rather have the stronger one.

 

[RWKHausSupply]

http://www.ringpinion.com/content/Yukon_Crawl_Article.pdf

hope that works for the public also.

Heres a little article from a well known rag called "Crawl". Most would concider them a very neutral 3rd party (no different then my self really) that was overly impressed with the Quality control and products at Yukon. Yes, Yukon once was trying to get to where they are today, and had some products that could have been stronger or better. But now (ok for a year or two actually now) they are to a place in thier maturity, to where they are making top notch products, some of which are the best in the business...