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Ever seen these wheel balancers?

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I saw a set of these today at work on a customers 3/4ton.
When I asked him about them, he said he just got them and that it's amazing how smooth it made his driving on the interstate.
They are a little pricey at $200 a set, but there are stupid things I've paid $200 for in the past that gave less results.

Just slips right on....

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DrMoab said:
I've seen a similar(only way bigger) set that they sell for semis. They use big ball bearings in a viscous oil.
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I have a question.
My co-worker and I were wondering if they make engine programmers for semis like they make for our trucks?
Seems you just don't see near as much black smoke from the stacks as you used to.
We figured maybe there were new regs that prohibit the big trucks from excessive black smoke emissions.
As we know more smoke means more power.
 
Okie Terry said:
I have a question.
My co-worker and I were wondering if they make engine programmers for semis like they make for our trucks?
Seems you just don't see near as much black smoke from the stacks as you used to.
We figured maybe there were new regs that prohibit the big trucks from excessive black smoke emissions.
As we know more smoke means more power.
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Any truck made since about 95 have been computer controlled. The ECU on a Cat moter is the size of an overlarge laptop. They can turn moters from 430 HP to 550 HP with just programing on them. I don't know if they make programers like they do for pickups but the engine manufactuers do.

All trucks now have to pass federal emmisions regs. They can't blow black smoke like they used to..In fact in California(go figure) if they see you pull into a scale house and you are blowing alot of smoke they will pull you in and ticket you.
 
Dr. Moab, isin't the diesel fuel itself also supposed to burn cleaner these days? I remember when it was pretty normal to see a city bus fill an intersection w/ a nice black cloud. Down in Mexico (PEMEX fuel), its still common to see a good amount of black smoke coming from buses & trucks, even newer and California registered (w/ U.S. license plates that go some places down there).
 
One of the guys in my club swears by these:

http://www.counteractbalancing.com/

This particular brand, exactly.

I'm going to try them with my next set of tires. The stuff can be picked up at most truck stops.
 
Okie Terry said:
I have a question.
My co-worker and I were wondering if they make engine programmers for semis like they make for our trucks?
Seems you just don't see near as much black smoke from the stacks as you used to.
We figured maybe there were new regs that prohibit the big trucks from excessive black smoke emissions.
As we know more smoke means more power.
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Will reply before somebody reports this for not being in the exact forum they think it should be in.......

But yes, Big Trucks do have methods for programming. As most new'ish rigs are electronic diesels, there are many ways and methods. You can see some of the more extreme versions of the same engines in "Emergency Services" applications. Many of the newer trucks detect issues, send a report, try to compensate, and can even have the spare parts waiting, or a Tech call the driver or shop, etc... These can be tweaked. ;)
 
Root Moose said:
One of the guys in my club swears by these:

http://www.counteractbalancing.com/

This particular brand, exactly.

I'm going to try them with my next set of tires. The stuff can be picked up at most truck stops.
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Those beads are designed to work on big rigs only, they are designed for a tall narrow tire where higher heat is involved. Also most of my customers that have tried these against my better reccomendation, hated them as they don't work stoplight to stoplight.
 
bajacalal said:
Dr. Moab, isin't the diesel fuel itself also supposed to burn cleaner these days? I remember when it was pretty normal to see a city bus fill an intersection w/ a nice black cloud. Down in Mexico (PEMEX fuel), its still common to see a good amount of black smoke coming from buses & trucks, even newer and California registered (w/ U.S. license plates that go some places down there).
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It might be but haven't you ever seen a pickup that is being over fueled...They will still blow black smoke. Even my bone stock 05 will blow smoke if I really romp on it.
 
DrMoab said:
It might be but haven't you ever seen a pickup that is being over fueled...They will still blow black smoke. Even my bone stock 05 will blow smoke if I really romp on it.
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Hmmm, was looking for a yes or no answer as to wether fuel has changed but good point the cause could be both fuel itself and the metering of it. Maybe someone would also know:

a.) Is it true that there supposed to be another change to diesel fuel phased in so that the sulphur content further is reduced and it burns "cleaner"?
b.) Whats the deal with black smoke anyway. I when I was little always heard people say "black diesel smoke is just carbon that diddn't burn off completely and its not harming anything"?
 
bajacalal said:
Hmmm, was looking for a yes or no answer as to wether fuel has changed but good point the cause could be both fuel itself and the metering of it. Maybe someone would also know:

a.) Is it true that there supposed to be another change to diesel fuel phased in so that the sulphur content further is reduced and it burns "cleaner"?
b.) Whats the deal with black smoke anyway. I when I was little always heard people say "black diesel smoke is just carbon that diddn't burn off completely and its not harming anything"?
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Fuel has changed....quite alot and it burns cleaner but I don't really know if that means it doesn't smoke as much or if there is just less dangerous stuff in it.
 
bajacalal said:
Hmmm, was looking for a yes or no answer as to wether fuel has changed but good point the cause could be both fuel itself and the metering of it. Maybe someone would also know:

a.) Is it true that there supposed to be another change to diesel fuel phased in so that the sulphur content further is reduced and it burns "cleaner"?
b.) Whats the deal with black smoke anyway. I when I was little always heard people say "black diesel smoke is just carbon that diddn't burn off completely and its not harming anything"?
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a. Fuel is always evolving. Lowering the harmful byproducts, while still being able to be used in most engines is tough stuff to do.
b. it is unburned fuel. Not abnormal to get a burst of black smoke on heavy throttle/load, but it should go away fairly quickly. If it is billowing black smoke constantly... it is likely overfueling. Some diesels use an "anti-smoke" gizmo... Volvo (no, not the car versions I am talking about) for instance. When it works, it works great. When it does not work, the engine performs very poorly, or creates more smoke than without it.
 
Glenn said:
a. Fuel is always evolving. Lowering the harmful byproducts, while still being able to be used in most engines is tough stuff to do.
b. it is unburned fuel. Not abnormal to get a burst of black smoke on heavy throttle/load, but it should go away fairly quickly. If it is billowing black smoke constantly... it is likely overfueling. Some diesels use an "anti-smoke" gizmo... Volvo (no, not the car versions I am talking about) for instance. When it works, it works great. When it does not work, the engine performs very poorly, or creates more smoke than without it.
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Two things I have seen create more smoke then anything.
1 a bad injector.
2 a blown turbo...I blew one once...Engine ran away from the oil getting into the intake...If it wasn't in gear it would have blown itself apart. Took both feet on the brake in about 8th gear to shut it down though :D
 
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