E-code H4 headlight conversion with comparison pics Cheaper than Silverstars

88JeepXJ said:
I LOVE that guys work and that is the cleanest XJ engine bay I've ever seen :) Anyway I wish that guy would make me a harness but I don't think he does.
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You should see my engine bay...with 91k on the clock it is just as clean as his...with the exception of the underside of the hood!
 
FYI...I just ordered a set today. Made my offer for $22.04 and he counter offered with $23.01. Seeing as how his original price was fine with me,and I was only trying to save a couple bucks, I bought them anyway. haha.

Ill try to do some side by sides as well. I have 100/90 bulbs and an upgrade harness in my other jeep. So those will come over and go into these housings for the new jeep.

J.
 
I just ordered the same autopal e code housings off of ebay. I never really knew about all these headlight upgrades until I searched around the forums today. I've been hating the low beam light pattern since I bought the Jeep, so glad I can finally upgrade. Might eventually throw in the harness upgrade as well as HID's.
 
I will post up a picture of my Autopal lights with 100/170 watt IPF bulbs, they are simply awesome! By the way I have had these lights for almost a year and have never been brighted by anyone yet, even with 100watt low beam. I am sure with the 170 watt high beam people would be so blinded they couldn't find their light switch to bright me back.
 
DanMan2k06 said:
170 watt?? Holy high current batman. What gauge is your harness?
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10 AWG wiring all the way with 30 amp relays, it should be pulling about 24-27 amps but I have not checked the voltage yet so I am not sure. Pretty damn bright and very nice to have on the back roads and on my wayback from snowboarding.
 
Oregon I see... lucky punk lol. For decent snowboarding I have to roadie up to Canada, which has happened a few times. How about heat issues? The wiring may be able to take it, but have you had any problems with cracked lenses/housings at all?
 
DanMan2k06 said:
Oregon I see... lucky punk lol. For decent snowboarding I have to roadie up to Canada, which has happened a few times. How about heat issues? The wiring may be able to take it, but have you had any problems with cracked lenses/housings at all?
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No problems at all yet, they do get hot though and you can feel the heat from feet away. I have only had the 170 watt highs in for a few weeks so far but when I had the 90/100 watts nothing heated up at all. It is real nice being close to Mt Hood, I can leave at 4:00 PM on weeknights and snowboard until 9:00 at night. I also work half days sometimes so I can get up there before 2:00 PM to ski day with no one else up there. It is under and hour from my house to get to Mt Hood meadows which is on the other side of the mountain, it is very nice!
 
88JeepXJ said:
OK let me ask it this way :)
"Is 14awg enough for a 55/60w setup?
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Yes.

88JeepXJ said:
How about a 55/90 setup?"
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Probably, but if you plan to run higher wattage bulbs you might at least consider using 12awg.

I'm running 10awg, I know that's wayyy overkill for my standard wattage bulbs, but the 10awg was only a little more expensive than 12awg, and I know it will handle whatever I throw at it.

I am running Philips X-treme Vision +80 H4 bulbs with the AutoPals and a homemade 10awg harness. I went out to the desert past Barstow this weekend and I must say that I could not be happier with the performance. Low beams work surprisingly good lighting up much farther than stock bulbs, and the high beams light up farther ahead than I can see rangewise.
 
From a practical point of view, 14 will work fine BUT like I tell my customers who tell me 'I only want one network drop per station' while the building is under construction and it only costs $80 a drop, once the dry wall goes up the cost goes to $150 a drop and inevitably I get called back 2 months later. I have never had a customer who regretted putting in too many drops.
Do it right the first time and you can then expand on it. I don't think I have any 14ga wire on my shelves, it's all 12ga and 10ga. The only 14 I have is what ever comes in the hella kits and I use hardly any of that except for the control signal to the relay.
Here is a thought, if you plan on adding any lights after this why not put in an auxiliary fuse block NOW, power it, just leave the fuses out till you need the new circuit.
 
I'm going to be making my harness tomorrow and putting in the new 90/100 bulbs. I was gonna use 12 awg but decided to go 10 instead after using the voltage drop calculator at the bottom of this page:
http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm
I agree with RichP and others that suggest doing it right once.
 
RichP said:
From a practical point of view, 14 will work fine BUT like I tell my customers who tell me 'I only want one network drop per station' while the building is under construction and it only costs $80 a drop, once the dry wall goes up the cost goes to $150 a drop and inevitably I get called back 2 months later. I have never had a customer who regretted putting in too many drops.
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They called me crazy when I had them run four cat-5's plus fiber per drop, with two drops per room. It only cost 30% to the cost and we've run into some cases where we needed more after 2 years. I had them do a nice cable tray above the ceiling running to conduit inside the walls, so it wasn't too bad to run some more. I confess though, that I've cheated have cheated in a few places and "split" a cat-5, but that rules out running gigabit. I wholeheartly agree with doing it right the first time, and planning for expansion. (Uh-oh, my IT nerdiness is showing)
 
lawsoncl said:
They called me crazy when I had them run four cat-5's plus fiber per drop, with two drops per room. It only cost 30% to the cost and we've run into some cases where we needed more after 2 years. I had them do a nice cable tray above the ceiling running to conduit inside the walls, so it wasn't too bad to run some more. I confess though, that I've cheated have cheated in a few places and "split" a cat-5, but that rules out running gigabit. I wholeheartly agree with doing it right the first time, and planning for expansion. (Uh-oh, my IT nerdiness is showing)
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Yea, I just finished pocono raceway today, ran my last wire, started last month, they ordered the headquarters building, all of it prewired from the factory, it was a prefab. I had to 'add a few' :D. They never considered the network printers, thank god the boca printers were not networked or I'd still be living there. In the old building I went thru 4 CASES of 3" wide surface mount conduit. Hopefully I think this spring I'll be getting a sun tan while I walk behind a ditchwitch running fiber a mile to the grand stands and putting the cisco waps up and connect all the gates, we'll see. I need to find out where the telco's get that underground fiber the orange tubing that they use.
 
When did this turn into a nerd fest? :) IT geeks! I was one, but finished my engineering degree and now I'm just an engineering geek... but I think there was more money in IT...ugh
 
i finished my headlight harness last night per fitchva's sweet writeup and couldn't be happier. now with e-codes and an upgraded harness i can actually see the deer in the headlights. woohoo!
 
pro-rallye said:
i finished my headlight harness last night per fitchva's sweet writeup and couldn't be happier. now with e-codes and an upgraded harness i can actually see the deer in the headlights. woohoo!
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what size wiring did you end up with?

I ordered up some 10 gauge with the other parts per fitchva's writeup, but that wiring is huge and doesn't work too well with the connectors. I'm thinking about backing it down to 12 gauge.
 
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