There's many conversion posts on the www saying the pinout is the same. Only problem is the mounting. The only one with a similar mount that is also 140 amp I found the escalade I mentioned. I just had surgery 3 days ago so I haven't checked it out yet.
CS-144 Alternators for a Renix
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Pinout is a non-issue. Adapters are easy to make. I had to make one for my 85 Deville to swap the stock SI-17 alternator with a CS-144
machinisttx
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I think there is an off the shelf adapter available. From what I can find, the 144 should have somewhere around 60-80 amps of output at idle. The larger AD244 puts out a little more at idle and is rated at 145 amps. It's also a drop in replacement for the 144 in most applications.
I don't know which vehicles will have the correct mounting style for the CS144, but you should look for these for the AD244. The AD244 will have "Delphi Automotive" cast into the pulley end of the housing. I'm also pretty sure that many of the vehicles listed also came equipped with the CS144. The case mounting for the AD244 in these applications appears identical to the mounting for the CS130 jeep application, so maybe a 144 from these applications is what you want.
Buick (2005-04) Rainier 5.3L
Cadillac (2004-02) Escalade 5.3L/6.0L, Escalade ESV 6.0L, Escalade EXT 6.0L
Chevrolet (02-04) Avalanche 1500 5.3L, Avalanche 2500 8.1L, (99-04) Blazer 4.3L, (01-02)C3500 8.1L, C3500HD 6.5L/8.1L (01-04) Express 1500 4.3L/5.0L/5.3L/5.7L, (01-14) Express 2500 4.3L/4.8L/5.0L/5.7L/6.0L/6.5L/6.6L, (01-04, 12-14) Express 3500 5.7L/6.0L/6.5L/6.6L/8.1L, (2012)Express 4500 6.6L, (99-05)Silverado 1500 4.3L/4.8L/5.3L/6.0L, (01-03, 05)Silverado 1500 HD 6.0L, (99-04) Silverado 2500 5.3L/6.0L, (01-05)Silverado 2500 HD 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (01-05) Silverado 3500 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (03-04) SSR 5.3L, (00-04) Suburban 1500 5.3L, (00-05) Suburban 2500 6.0L/8.1L, (00-04) Tahoe 4.8L/5.3L, (03-05) Trailblazer EXT 5.3L,
GMC (01-02) C3500HD 6.5L/8.1L, (05)Envoy 5.3L, (03-05)Envoy XL 5.3L, (04-05)Envoy XUV 5.3L, (01-04)Savanna 1500 4.3L/5.3L/5.7L, (01-04, 12-14)Savanna 2500 4.3L/4.8L/5.0L/5.7L/6.5L/6.6L, (01-04)Savanna 3500 4.8L/5.7L/6.0L/6.5L/6.6L/8.1L, (12)Savanna 4500 6.6L, (99-05)Sierra 1500 4.3L/4.8L/5.3L/6.0L, (01-03, 05)Sierra 1500HD 6.0L, (99-04)Sierra 2500 5.3L/6.0L, (01-05)Sierra 2500HD 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (01-05)Sierra 3500 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (01)Sierra C3 6.0L, (00-05)Yukon 4.8L/5.3L/6.0L, (00-05)Yukon XL 1500 5.3L/6.0L, (00-05)Yukon XL 2500 6.0L/8.1L
(2005-03) AM General Hummer H2 6.0L
(2005-03) Isuzu Ascender 5.3L
(2005) Saab 9-7X 5.3L
Just for giggles, here's something I picked up for $5 at the scrapyard a while back. Needed a set of brushes, a pulley, and the slip rings trued up.
I don't know which vehicles will have the correct mounting style for the CS144, but you should look for these for the AD244. The AD244 will have "Delphi Automotive" cast into the pulley end of the housing. I'm also pretty sure that many of the vehicles listed also came equipped with the CS144. The case mounting for the AD244 in these applications appears identical to the mounting for the CS130 jeep application, so maybe a 144 from these applications is what you want.
Buick (2005-04) Rainier 5.3L
Cadillac (2004-02) Escalade 5.3L/6.0L, Escalade ESV 6.0L, Escalade EXT 6.0L
Chevrolet (02-04) Avalanche 1500 5.3L, Avalanche 2500 8.1L, (99-04) Blazer 4.3L, (01-02)C3500 8.1L, C3500HD 6.5L/8.1L (01-04) Express 1500 4.3L/5.0L/5.3L/5.7L, (01-14) Express 2500 4.3L/4.8L/5.0L/5.7L/6.0L/6.5L/6.6L, (01-04, 12-14) Express 3500 5.7L/6.0L/6.5L/6.6L/8.1L, (2012)Express 4500 6.6L, (99-05)Silverado 1500 4.3L/4.8L/5.3L/6.0L, (01-03, 05)Silverado 1500 HD 6.0L, (99-04) Silverado 2500 5.3L/6.0L, (01-05)Silverado 2500 HD 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (01-05) Silverado 3500 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (03-04) SSR 5.3L, (00-04) Suburban 1500 5.3L, (00-05) Suburban 2500 6.0L/8.1L, (00-04) Tahoe 4.8L/5.3L, (03-05) Trailblazer EXT 5.3L,
GMC (01-02) C3500HD 6.5L/8.1L, (05)Envoy 5.3L, (03-05)Envoy XL 5.3L, (04-05)Envoy XUV 5.3L, (01-04)Savanna 1500 4.3L/5.3L/5.7L, (01-04, 12-14)Savanna 2500 4.3L/4.8L/5.0L/5.7L/6.5L/6.6L, (01-04)Savanna 3500 4.8L/5.7L/6.0L/6.5L/6.6L/8.1L, (12)Savanna 4500 6.6L, (99-05)Sierra 1500 4.3L/4.8L/5.3L/6.0L, (01-03, 05)Sierra 1500HD 6.0L, (99-04)Sierra 2500 5.3L/6.0L, (01-05)Sierra 2500HD 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (01-05)Sierra 3500 6.0L/6.6L/8.1L, (01)Sierra C3 6.0L, (00-05)Yukon 4.8L/5.3L/6.0L, (00-05)Yukon XL 1500 5.3L/6.0L, (00-05)Yukon XL 2500 6.0L/8.1L
(2005-03) AM General Hummer H2 6.0L
(2005-03) Isuzu Ascender 5.3L
(2005) Saab 9-7X 5.3L
Just for giggles, here's something I picked up for $5 at the scrapyard a while back. Needed a set of brushes, a pulley, and the slip rings trued up.
NorCalChris
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Ok. So maybe I'll go down to oreillys and spend an hr. See if they have anything. If I do I'll post up what I find.
AD 244 part numbers
AM General 6019239, Delco 10464405, 10464443, 10464453, 10464456, 10464476, 10480234, 10480390, 15200109, 15226003, 15750871, 15754097, 15754097A, 15754097M, 15754097W, 15768830, 18000002, 19244746, GM 15263859, 19151921, 19244751, Isuzu 8104644760, 8152260030, Saab 15-22-6003
AM General 6019239, Delco 10464405, 10464443, 10464453, 10464456, 10464476, 10480234, 10480390, 15200109, 15226003, 15750871, 15754097, 15754097A, 15754097M, 15754097W, 15768830, 18000002, 19244746, GM 15263859, 19151921, 19244751, Isuzu 8104644760, 8152260030, Saab 15-22-6003
These applications are 5.5" apart I didn't verify the measurement the oreilly guy did it in front of me.
I imagine drilling out the stock bracket 1/4" would be alright.
AD244 Oreilly part # 391611
Alternator For Cadillac Escalade 5.3L(325) V8 2002, Escalade 6.0L(364) V8 2002, Chevrolet / Gmc All Models (By Engine) - Diesel Gm 6.6L(400) V8 Dsl 2001-2002, Chevrolet Avalanche 5.3L(323) V8 2002, Avalanche 8.1L(496) V8 2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.3L(262) V6 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.8L(294) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 5.3L(323) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.0L(364) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.6L(400) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Express Vans 4.3L(262) V6 2001-2002, Express Vans 5.0L(305) V8 2001-2002, Express Vans 5.7L(350) V8 2001-2002, Express Vans 6.5L(395) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, Express Vans 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Suburban 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Suburban 6.0L(364) V8 2000-2002, Suburban 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Tahoe 4.8L(294) V8 2000-2002, Tahoe 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Gmc C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.3L(262) V6 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.8L(294) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 5.3L(323) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.0L(364) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.6L(400) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Savana Vans 4.3L(262) V6 2001-2002, Savana Vans 5.0L(305) V8 2001-2002, Savana Vans 5.7L(350) V8 2001-2002, Savana Vans 6.5L(395) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, Savana Vans 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Yukon 4.8L(294) V8 2000-2002, Yukon 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Yukon 6.0L(364) V8 2001-2002, Yukon Xl 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Yukon Xl 6.0L(364) V8 2000-2002, Yukon Xl 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002. 12 Volt, 130 Amp With 6-Groove Serpentine Pulley And Internal Regulator. Replaces Ac Delco 321-1749, 321-1803, 321-1813, 321-1816, 334-2481, 334-2481A, 334-2517; Delco 10464405, 10464443, 10464453, 10464456, 10480234, 10480390, 15750871, 15768830; Delphi Rm1366
I imagine drilling out the stock bracket 1/4" would be alright.
AD244 Oreilly part # 391611
Alternator For Cadillac Escalade 5.3L(325) V8 2002, Escalade 6.0L(364) V8 2002, Chevrolet / Gmc All Models (By Engine) - Diesel Gm 6.6L(400) V8 Dsl 2001-2002, Chevrolet Avalanche 5.3L(323) V8 2002, Avalanche 8.1L(496) V8 2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.3L(262) V6 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.8L(294) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 5.3L(323) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.0L(364) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.6L(400) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Express Vans 4.3L(262) V6 2001-2002, Express Vans 5.0L(305) V8 2001-2002, Express Vans 5.7L(350) V8 2001-2002, Express Vans 6.5L(395) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, Express Vans 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Suburban 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Suburban 6.0L(364) V8 2000-2002, Suburban 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Tahoe 4.8L(294) V8 2000-2002, Tahoe 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Gmc C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.3L(262) V6 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 4.8L(294) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 5.3L(323) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.0L(364) V8 1999-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 6.6L(400) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, C / K / R / V Series Pickups 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Savana Vans 4.3L(262) V6 2001-2002, Savana Vans 5.0L(305) V8 2001-2002, Savana Vans 5.7L(350) V8 2001-2002, Savana Vans 6.5L(395) V8 (Diesel) 2001-2002, Savana Vans 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002, Yukon 4.8L(294) V8 2000-2002, Yukon 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Yukon 6.0L(364) V8 2001-2002, Yukon Xl 5.3L(323) V8 2000-2002, Yukon Xl 6.0L(364) V8 2000-2002, Yukon Xl 8.1L(496) V8 2001-2002. 12 Volt, 130 Amp With 6-Groove Serpentine Pulley And Internal Regulator. Replaces Ac Delco 321-1749, 321-1803, 321-1813, 321-1816, 334-2481, 334-2481A, 334-2517; Delco 10464405, 10464443, 10464453, 10464456, 10480234, 10480390, 15750871, 15768830; Delphi Rm1366
NorCalChris
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That is great, now besides the mounting what about the pins etc?
The pinout is that of a CS130D They sell an adapter here but I think I'll hack one off at the JY.
http://www.qualitypowerauto.com/item_81/Alternator-Wiring-Harnesses.htm
http://www.qualitypowerauto.com/item_81/Alternator-Wiring-Harnesses.htm
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Yeah buy a generic pigtail, then cut the stock at the same length. Then a male weatherpack on the harness, and female weatherpacks on the two pigtails. Then you can switch between alternators just by switching the pigtail.
machinisttx
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Be sure that you actually get the AD244 and not a DR44. The DR is a newer version and IIRC, one of the parts(don't remember which) is integral with the rear cover, so when it fails it's more expensive to repair/replace.
Good luck! I wish they had stuck with Delco alternators instead of going to the bastard mount nippondenso on later jeeps.
Good luck! I wish they had stuck with Delco alternators instead of going to the bastard mount nippondenso on later jeeps.
NorCalChris
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So has anyone mounted a 244 in a renix yet?
NorCalChris
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Make sure to post up how it goes
NorCalChris
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So my cs130 from oreillys took a shit after less then 10k. It's burnt up. Guess cs130 really do get hot. Haha. I will be gojng to oreillys and checking out the ad244. I'll post up any info I find.
NorCalChris
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So I bought the new alternator. It's massive compared to a cs130. I may have enough time to mount it today
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pics or ban
blondejoncherokee
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So the 244 is bigger and higher output and marginally close to bolting up and a electrical connections going in easy? And it is still internally regulated?
Im very interested in a writeup. I have my alternator where the AC used to be with a 76.5" belt ,but I still go through them. I have about 4 spares though.
googled it and found this:
http://alternatorparts.com/ad230-ad244-series-high-output-alternators.html
this one says that you might need a longer belt:
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f27/how-to-high-output-ad244-alternator-for-80-a-376788/
Im very interested in a writeup. I have my alternator where the AC used to be with a 76.5" belt ,but I still go through them. I have about 4 spares though.
googled it and found this:
http://alternatorparts.com/ad230-ad244-series-high-output-alternators.html
this one says that you might need a longer belt:
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f27/how-to-high-output-ad244-alternator-for-80-a-376788/
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