axel costs

crazymoose1990

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Anyone on here know what the cost involved in welding up full width axels for an xj front and rear for ford 9" and dana 44 front. Just toying with this over locking my stock axels. Thanks Jason :shhh:
 
Yeah right Dave what do those axels cost like 5 grand each. It would cost more that my jeep rigth now with all the parts ive installed in the last year. Your probably right Phile but can upgraded knuckels for high steer and the stock shafts should be stronger that upgraded shafts you would buy for a high pinon 30 i mean they are coming out of a 1/2 truck correct or am i wrong. Im not a fan of tires sticking way out though. I just figured 1,500 to 2,000 to up grade per axel when i could weld in some stronger axels with stock shafts and regear throw in a couple detroit lockers have the option to unlock my front hubs to boot am i wrong please enlighten me. :)
 
Please use the period "." in your future posts.

Also - its not 'just' $2500 for upgraded axles and detroits...

its axle shafts, u-joints, gears, lockers, steering knuckles, mounting brackets, steering linkages, driveshaft modifications, new wheels to match the new bolt pattern, a whole new set of spare parts, new ways to get ticketed for full width junk...

This is one of two things:
not as cheap as you think it is

not as big of an upgrade as you think it is

Pick one... the other is not true.
 
jason,
i am assuming you mean weld up spring perches/control arm mounts/steering stuff/coil buckets/ and not the spiders right?
anyway, the underlying assumption with building full widths is that it cost the same to actually build an axle eitherway, roughly, so if youre gonna throw 1500 at an axle(gears,locekrs,shafts, etc) , and you can get a full width 44 for 200, whats the difference between 1700 and 1500(assuming you are able to do the front control arm mounts, steering setup, and coil buckets etc for really cheap so therefore its a negligable cost.)
jason i think what youre saying is that the strength of a say stock 9" shaft and a stock 44 shaft both with bigger housings and ring gear better? yes, but it could possibly cost alot more if the axles themselves need to be built up and modified to fit under an xj.
cost to pay a shop to gear 8.25 and the 30, about 1250 labor and parts.
thats why i choose to buy all my axles geared locked and used for as cheap as possible.
cost of detroit rear, 500,
cost of arb front, 400-500(used)+shops charge extra to install+ air compressor.
those costs are the same for a full width or not.
here is an idea,
now if those full widths end up costing you 800 to get them xj ready without gears lockers shafts etc then maybe for the type of wheeling you are doing you would be better off with the arb front and the detroit rear.
here is one option that might be cheaper, is find a 8.8 with the lsd and 4.11's and find a 4.11 dana 30 outta a 4cyl cherokee. then just roll with the lsd and pay to have the arb installed up front and youre done for cheap.
the other option is finding geared and locked axles used and just wait patiently for that guy who sells his geared and locked axles with arb front and rear for cheap and then swoop in like a hawk.
you might even find a 44/30 combo geared and locked for under or around a 1200$. then you can just pay to have the arb put up front...
 
and i do see alot of "."s in his last post, seemed good to me. but then again im mathBA/econMA guy not a english teacher so who knows.
 
Sorry Xjranger I will try to do a better job of punctuation in the future but ive seen a hell of a lot worse on this website in the past.
 
Moose:
Just my .02 bruddah :-)

I have to agree with Phil. If you are looking at which is less expensive, it breaks even. I actually think it would be more expensive to modify a full width because of the modifications that need to be done.

A HP D30 up front, Trussed, High Steer, Chromo's with 760 Joints is a fairly solid axel.

What tire size do youw ant to run? A D30 can handle up to 35's with little to no issues.

A D44 in the rear is also a solid axel, slap in some Chromo's and you are good.

Great Topic BTW - Axel threads always stir up a ton of opinions.
 
Phil and Mark know NOTHING!!!!.

Go PRO ROCK 60 or go home!!!!.

:D
Should only be about $12,000.
So maybe 5 to 6 k for the rear and 6 to 7 k for the front, then you just need to install it.

Seems like right now you can find some buggies with nice axles under them for around $10,000 to $15,000.

Anyone remember what this rig cost him:
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I beleave the same Teraflex axles are still under it today even after finishing 2 KOH races:
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Or you can build up a 30, till that don't work. Then build a 44 till you out grow that. Then move on to a 609 and you are back to where you should have started.

I hope to start my 609 some day soon, and I should have never listened to Phil and Mark. :bawl:
Seems like I have big periods.
 
Yeah i think you guys are right i will stick with my stock axels. I do not plan on going over 33" anyway thanks for all the help fellas
 
That's it, the one that got dragged off Fordyce by Goatman's old rig, now Cal's new rig!

Actually, Gotman drug it up to winch hill 3 then Andy drug it the rest of the way out(with me driving it).
Ironically, I'm now running the coil springs that were in that rig.
 
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