Anyone big into bodybuilding/lifting?

imma honky

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Im curious as to if anyone else out there weight trains/bodybuilds regularly? About 3 weeks ago I decided to start and wanted to get some ideas on foods, suppliments and diff. exercises (how many sets/reps?). Im asking mostly for people with personal experience.
 
By sticking to a strict diet of burgers, ribs, steaks, and other "good for you" food i have managed to pack-on a rec room to my waist. Sure...it took a lot of work but i felt I could put in the time and energy and really work hard to reach my goal.

"I am not fat.....this is my speed bump of love"

Rev


PS Sorry...I could not resist.
 
Rev Den said:
By sticking to a strict diet of burgers, ribs, steaks, and other "good for you" food i have managed to pack-on a rec room to my waist. Sure...it took a lot of work but i felt I could put in the time and energy and really work hard to reach my goal.

"I am not fat.....this is my speed bump of love"

Rev


PS Sorry...I could not resist.
HAHA! At least it was a good one.....
I prefer ye ole' "Who needs a six pack, when you can go fer a keg!"
 
imma honky said:
Im curious as to if anyone else out there weight trains/bodybuilds regularly? About 3 weeks ago I decided to start and wanted to get some ideas on foods, suppliments and diff. exercises (how many sets/reps?). Im asking mostly for people with personal experience.


What are you trying to accomplish...you wanna be a no-neck musclehead or just get in better shape???

I used to be WAY into lifting, until I realized that the time I was adding on to the end of my life I was spending in the gym....whats the point. Spend 3 hours a day (was going before work and after) in the gym, eating nothing but bland protein, (steamed chicken breasts, and tuna straight from the can). Got really burnt out. Anyway post back with what you are hoping to do, how big you are now, and your age, and I can help get you headed in the right direction.
 
I used to lift regularly. I lifted all through my 20's. Got married during my early 30's and got lazy. When I was in my late 30's - early 40's, I went to a gym during my lunch hour at work. I always concentrated on muscle endurance and strength. I also worked in aerobic workouts. My frame is small so "big" was not one of my goals. Now, I'm just too tired (lazy again)...

Your routine depends on what you are wanting to accomplish. You can build mass using heavy weight, or you can rip using moderate. Make sure you do not neglect your abs and legs ; everyone wants big arms and chest and get lazy on these.

My son is lifting now ... he is 15 yrs. old and into FB and has done some wrestling. I always stressed, when he was just starting, to develope the coordination of the muscle (or muscle group) he was wanting to work. Isolate it by using lighter weight and do several sets of (15) reps. After he developed the coordination, he then had the control necessary to increase his weight. This lessened his risk of injury. I've always made him do his reps slow, under control, and to always breath. He is strong as a bull now ... he gets all the heavy work too now that I'm an old fart! ;)

Read up ... there's a lot of info out there. Don't get sucked into the suppliments. A good balanced diet and lots of water ....

Hey ... I'm no expert ... just some BS opinion.

Les
 
lbexj said:
I used to lift regularly. I lifted all through my 20's. Got married during my early 30's and got lazy. When I was in my late 30's - early 40's, I went to a gym during my lunch hour at work. I always concentrated on muscle endurance and strength. I also worked in aerobic workouts. My frame is small so "big" was not one of my goals. Now, I'm just too tired (lazy again)...

Your routine depends on what you are wanting to accomplish. You can build mass using heavy weight, or you can rip using moderate. Make sure you do not neglect your abs and legs ; everyone wants big arms and chest and get lazy on these.

My son is lifting now ... he is 15 yrs. old and into FB and has done some wrestling. I always stressed, when he was just starting, to develope the coordination of the muscle (or muscle group) he was wanting to work. Isolate it by using lighter weight and do several sets of (15) reps. After he developed the coordination, he then had the control necessary to increase his weight. This lessened his risk of injury. I've always made him do his reps slow, under control, and to always breath. He is strong as a bull now ... he gets all the heavy work too now that I'm an old fart! ;)

Read up ... there's a lot of info out there. Don't get sucked into the suppliments. A good balanced diet and lots of water ....

Hey ... I'm no expert ... just some BS opinion.

Les

That is so true...don't get sucked into supplements. One of the gyms in my area sells memberships for 99 dollars a year because he makes all his money on supplements (and people who don't show up after purchasing a membership). A good diet, and a good multi-vitamin, plus 2 gallons of water a day are all you need.
 
Must have been a New Year's resolution!! :)

Chapters ago, early to mid-eighties (now I'm dating myself) I was into competitive b-building. Won my class at the '82 Minnesota State Championship and in 1984 won my class in The North Country Bodybuilding Championships (upper midwest-central Canada). At that point I was going to train a couple solid years and compete in the USA, Northern USA. But life got in the way, things change, etc.

I still pump iron on a somewhat consistant basis, 4-5 times a week, but then can miss a whole week here and there, it's just how life is, busy, kids, business, etc. Life just has higher/other priorities for me now. I'm now 43 (how the f' did THAT happen?), can bench 300 or slightly more, if I got real consistant could maybe get it up to 330-340 in 6 months or so.

ANyhow, here's what I recommend for you, not saying I know it all but this is basic and will get you off to a great start, you can adjust things as you go, gain some experience and learn what works more specifically for you, so here goes:

GAIN KNOWLEDGE. There are so many good books out there on bodybuilding, weight training, nutrition,etc. You'll learn about proper form, technique, how many sets to do, how many reps. How many days you train each muscle per week. What works best as staple/core exercises, what focuses more on a specific muscles. Basics on nutrition, etc., etc., etc.

SET GOALS. What I'd recommend is first figure out exactly what YOUR goals are, muscle gain, weight loss, strenth, cardio, etc. Might be all of the above. Sit down and take some real time with this, if your currently 6 ft. 5 and weigh 130 lbs, chances are your not going to be an Arnold Schwartzenegger. You might be the Govornor of CA someday, but probably don't have the genes to load your frame with 70 lbs. lean muscle mass. So be realistic with this, but shoot for the sky too!!

JOIN A CLUB. You'll meet people with similiar goals, make some great friends, your workout will become more rountine and most likely you'll gain a training partner, which is next....

GET A TRAINING PARTNER. There's so many advantages to having a training partner, most important is that you'll HAVE TO stick to your schedule, because your partner will be waiting on your sorry ass at the club. You won't be able to change your mind on the drive home from work/school and decide you're not quite up to lifting that day and stay home and watch a Senfeld re-run. This consistency is very important. Second advantage to having a partner is having someone to spot you/push you. It gets to be a real pain when you want to push your limit and have to call on people that really don't want to spot you, especially time after time. You can really push each other and the intensity of the workout will be so much higher than it would be if you're just training alone.

EAT WELL. Make sure your eating balanced meals geared towarded high protein. This doesn't mean you need 400 grams of protein a day, probably more like 200. Eat your fruits and veggies, you might not think this will help with your b-building goals, but the energy you gain from the fruits, etc and the importance of all your bodies systems running properly/perfectly, can't be over looked either. Focus on the balance. I somewhat disagree with the other guys on supplements. They're good to a point. I'd take a 1-a-day vitamin supplement, there's most likely no way you'll get all the vitamins and minerals in your food EVERYDAY. I'd also get a protein supplement. It's great after a workout to go home, mix some protien powder w. OJ and slam it. Flood your body with some protein right after pounding the crap out of your muscles, can't hurt. Plus the new stuff actually tastes descent, not like the chalk-crap they had back in the day. And don't be a fanatic about it, if you're in the mood for a Snickers, have one. Just don't get into the fad supplements, your not going to pop a pill and lose 10 lbs. in a week or triple your energy level in 2 hours. Go out and get yourself a GNC Gold card, you'll save something like 20% on supplements.

REST AND RECOUPE. Doesn't need much 'splainin'!! Get your sleep. Don't party all the time. Give your muscles the rest they need, that's the only way they'll grow. Break the tissue down, then let it recoupe. BUT ALSO, and this is very important, don't over train. Traing for 3 hours a day is WAY over doing it, I can understand why JJ13 got burnt out. If you can't train the muscle you need to train that day in an hour and a half or less, your doing way too much. You'll overtrain and see little gain. Which raelly sucks when you're putting in all that time

This is just the tip off the iceberg, but it's getting late (after 1 a.m.) It's all very basic. Train hard, be consistant, eat well, sleep well.

I know this really did not answer your initial question about sets, reps, exercises, but we'll get there. It's getting very late and I'm sure my son (1.5 years) will be up at the crack of dawn, having no consideration for Daddy who was on the web all night long. :)

HTH

edit: Man, did I write all that!!
 
Good advice XZJ... It really depends on the individual's goals & motivation.
Back in 90 (I was 24) I started training 5 months ahead for Army Parachute School & Special Forces training. I was already in pretty good shape, but needed to 'bulk up' (add approx 25# to my 135) and toughen up my feetsies. I'd lift weights (benches, squats, curls) every other day. Also hit the road with a backpack 65# + 1gl water and worked up to 15 milers 2x a week. Ran some (hated running) up to maybe 7 miles, usually just slogged through a brisk 3 or 4. Did pushups, situp/crunches, chinups and beat on my kickbag just about every day...

I *always* spent at least 15 min streching out before getting busy.

Diet was laughable (was tryin to gain) Other than the daily multivitamin & MLO-egg-PB-half & half shakes, I lived on pasta, potatos, oatmeal, steak/beef/pork, cheesecake, all washed down with half & half (pretty much if it screamed "FATTENING" I was onto it faster than Rosie ODonnell at an all-U-can-eat) That and a nightly 6-pack of real beer.

By the time I got to training, I was a 'solid' 155. I maintained 145-150 until age 30 or so (just from hard work & play) but the past 3 years I've gained another 25 I don't really need. I know the answer to fixing that, but I figure as long as I'm gonna die ugly, I might as well die fat and ugly.
 
XJZ said:
Must have been a New Year's resolution!! :)

Chapters ago, early to mid-eighties (now I'm dating myself) I was into competitive b-building. Won my class at the '82 Minnesota State Championship and in 1984 won my class in The North Country Bodybuilding Championships (upper midwest-central Canada). At that point I was going to train a couple solid years and compete in the USA, Northern USA. But life got in the way, things change, etc.

I still pump iron on a somewhat consistant basis, 4-5 times a week, but then can miss a whole week here and there, it's just how life is, busy, kids, business, etc. Life just has higher/other priorities for me now. I'm now 43 (how the f' did THAT happen?), can bench 300 or slightly more, if I got real consistant could maybe get it up to 330-340 in 6 months or so.

ANyhow, here's what I recommend for you, not saying I know it all but this is basic and will get you off to a great start, you can adjust things as you go, gain some experience and learn what works more specifically for you, so here goes:

GAIN KNOWLEDGE. There are so many good books out there on bodybuilding, weight training, nutrition,etc. You'll learn about proper form, technique, how many sets to do, how many reps. How many days you train each muscle per week. What works best as staple/core exercises, what focuses more on a specific muscles. Basics on nutrition, etc., etc., etc.

SET GOALS. What I'd recommend is first figure out exactly what YOUR goals are, muscle gain, weight loss, strenth, cardio, etc. Might be all of the above. Sit down and take some real time with this, if your currently 6 ft. 5 and weigh 130 lbs, chances are your not going to be an Arnold Schwartzenegger. You might be the Govornor of CA someday, but probably don't have the genes to load your frame with 70 lbs. lean muscle mass. So be realistic with this, but shoot for the sky too!!

JOIN A CLUB. You'll meet people with similiar goals, make some great friends, your workout will become more rountine and most likely you'll gain a training partner, which is next....

GET A TRAINING PARTNER. There's so many advantages to having a training partner, most important is that you'll HAVE TO stick to your schedule, because your partner will be waiting on your sorry ass at the club. You won't be able to change your mind on the drive home from work/school and decide you're not quite up to lifting that day and stay home and watch a Senfeld re-run. This consistency is very important. Second advantage to having a partner is having someone to spot you/push you. It gets to be a real pain when you want to push your limit and have to call on people that really don't want to spot you, especially time after time. You can really push each other and the intensity of the workout will be so much higher than it would be if you're just training alone.

EAT WELL. Make sure your eating balanced meals geared towarded high protein. This doesn't mean you need 400 grams of protein a day, probably more like 200. Eat your fruits and veggies, you might not think this will help with your b-building goals, but the energy you gain from the fruits, etc and the importance of all your bodies systems running properly/perfectly, can't be over looked either. Focus on the balance. I somewhat disagree with the other guys on supplements. They're good to a point. I'd take a 1-a-day vitamin supplement, there's most likely no way you'll get all the vitamins and minerals in your food EVERYDAY. I'd also get a protein supplement. It's great after a workout to go home, mix some protien powder w. OJ and slam it. Flood your body with some protein right after pounding the crap out of your muscles, can't hurt. Plus the new stuff actually tastes descent, not like the chalk-crap they had back in the day. And don't be a fanatic about it, if you're in the mood for a Snickers, have one. Just don't get into the fad supplements, your not going to pop a pill and lose 10 lbs. in a week or triple your energy level in 2 hours. Go out and get yourself a GNC Gold card, you'll save something like 20% on supplements.

REST AND RECOUPE. Doesn't need much 'splainin'!! Get your sleep. Don't party all the time. Give your muscles the rest they need, that's the only way they'll grow. Break the tissue down, then let it recoupe. BUT ALSO, and this is very important, don't over train. Traing for 3 hours a day is WAY over doing it, I can understand why JJ13 got burnt out. If you can't train the muscle you need to train that day in an hour and a half or less, your doing way too much. You'll overtrain and see little gain. Which raelly sucks when you're putting in all that time

This is just the tip off the iceberg, but it's getting late (after 1 a.m.) It's all very basic. Train hard, be consistant, eat well, sleep well.

I know this really did not answer your initial question about sets, reps, exercises, but we'll get there. It's getting very late and I'm sure my son (1.5 years) will be up at the crack of dawn, having no consideration for Daddy who was on the web all night long. :)

HTH

edit: Man, did I write all that!!

I agree with everything he had to say. I still have protein and use it anytime I do anything that will make me sore, (not completely lazy). I even agree with the part about me overtraining(I have always had an all or nothing personality) , however I was only doing cardio in the mornings, and usually spent a little over an hour actually working out (had a lot of weight to lose). The Setting of goals is (I believe) the most important step that was mentioned.
 
I am a student firefighter so I need to be in good shape. I work out about 5 times a week maybe hour and a half a day plus I try to run 2or 3 miles 3 times a week.
When I first started working out I used creatine it was winter so I didn't run as much but then I started cramping really bad cause the creatine was using all my stored water. So I quite the creatine and just try to watch what I eat. and to end my reply three words WATER WATER WATER.
I drink about 10 to 12 20oz. bottles of water a day. sure when you start you pee like ever 10min. but that goes away.
DIG IT!
 
Beezil said:
if anyone has ever met grnt, yall know he's a big boy......

I asked him how he got so big, and his responce was:

"go tofu or go home"

That SOB....now he's spillin' all the inside secrets!! :) He should be expecting a visit from *the agency*.

Think about the sexiness of bb....a bunch of guys hanging out wearing absolutely nothing but speedos and fake tans, all glossy w. vegtable oil, and eating tofu.....that's just hot!! I love glutes so ripped ya can't tell where the cuts/striations end and the crack begins!!

Woody, love the weight gain diet! 20 lbs. of solid beef is very respectable! I think back on the days when I was trying to "bulk up". It was disgusting, anything and everything, of course my metabolism was a hair faster back in those days :) . Beez, could I cosider the spare tire I now have around my waist as a *real* spare? Then I could scrape the one on my roof rack and greatly lower my CG!! "Hey Dave (me), you're eating like a damn pig". No I'm not, I'm bulking up!! Like there's a difference. :)

JJ13, I thought you were doing 3 hours of weight traing, now it sounds much more reasonable, wish I could get my lazy butt to do that much cardio! :) That's what I neglect the most these days. I hate the StairMaster, etc.-I feel like a hamster in a Habi-Trail. Like to get out on the bike, but my official excuse is that it rains a lot in N. CA in the winter. :)

So where's Imma Honkey? Let's get trainin' man!!! I've seen your nose pokin' around here...let's get to it!!
 
Im not shooting for the no-neck type. Im just another skinny white boy who would like to tone up a bit. I didn't even know it, but my friend had already done his research, so im just following his lead. It's sooo much easier to workout with a friend. We only hit the weights for about 1-2 hours a day. Each day focuses on something different. He is drinking protein shakes to help meet his protein quota, but im not. Ive only been doing this for a few weeks so far, but ive increased my weights by 25 pounds so far. Ive been drinking about 1.5 gallons of water and eating lotsof eggs, fish (not tuna, stuff makes me sick!), baked/grilled chicken.
Isn't Tofu very high in protein?
Thanks for the responses!
 
XJZ said:
That SOB....now he's spillin' all the inside secrets!! :) He should be expecting a visit from *the agency*.

Think about the sexiness of bb....a bunch of guys hanging out wearing absolutely nothing but speedos and fake tans, all glossy w. vegtable oil, and eating tofu.....that's just hot!! I love glutes so ripped ya can't tell where the cuts/striations end and the crack begins!!

Woody, love the weight gain diet! 20 lbs. of solid beef is very respectable! I think back on the days when I was trying to "bulk up". It was disgusting, anything and everything, of course my metabolism was a hair faster back in those days :) . Beez, could I cosider the spare tire I now have around my waist as a *real* spare? Then I could scrape the one on my roof rack and greatly lower my CG!! "Hey Dave (me), you're eating like a damn pig". No I'm not, I'm bulking up!! Like there's a difference. :)

JJ13, I thought you were doing 3 hours of weight traing, now it sounds much more reasonable, wish I could get my lazy butt to do that much cardio! :) That's what I neglect the most these days. I hate the StairMaster, etc.-I feel like a hamster in a Habi-Trail. Like to get out on the bike, but my official excuse is that it rains a lot in N. CA in the winter. :)

So where's Imma Honkey? Let's get trainin' man!!! I've seen your nose pokin' around here...let's get to it!!

LOL I was an avid cyclist for most of my life (just recently quit riding), and I live in Washington (on the wet side). So that is no excuse...get out and ride ya lazy bum :flamemad: One good thing about all the riding in the rain, it kept me from looking like I was a big buff guy riding a chicken around. Nothing worse than a guy with the discipline to go to the gym and work his arse off who is too big of a P#ss bucket to do some squats. I am with ya though the cardio was tough. No wonder I burnt myself out.
 
I lift 5 days a week since 7th grade. I am 6'4" and 312lbs. @ about 10% bf . I didn't read any of the other posts, whats your body type?

I gain weight easy and I have to watch my carbs because I gain muscle/and fat easy. I try to eat atleast 400g of protein a day and eat atleast 5-6 meals a day.

EDIT: saw your a skinny guy. Well if your just starting to lift keep it up and eat! Try to eat your body weight in protein and thats it. I can go into ALOT more detail on gaining muscle, but its not all legal...... :gag:
 
"Woody, love the weight gain diet!"

LMAO I forgot about all the french toast :) 6 slices a day, like it or not. half & half in the batter, extra butter & real maple syrup on top.

Sux...up until just a few years ago, I could still eat like that w/o penalty...then my worms died and everything sticks to my belly.
 
ZachMan said:
I lift 5 days a week since 7th grade. I am 6'4" and 312lbs. @ about 10% bf . I didn't read any of the other posts, whats your body type?

I gain weight easy and I have to watch my carbs because I gain muscle/and fat easy. I try to eat atleast 400g of protein a day and eat atleast 5-6 meals a day.

EDIT: saw your a skinny guy. Well if your just starting to lift keep it up and eat! Try to eat your body weight in protein and thats it. I can go into ALOT more detail on gaining muscle, but its not all legal...... :gag:
I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing, but It's hella hard for me to gain weight. For me to actually gain like 2 or 3 pounds, I have to veg out and o absolutely nothing for at least a week.
 
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