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What Kind of Welder

live24wheel

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Well I have one of the samll harbor frieght 90 amp welders and i've pretty much gotten the life out of it. I want to get another welder and I would like it to just be flux core... I am going to be welding on mainly .120 wall tubing to build my bumpers and sliders and what not. I just want to know what you guys use, what brand and whatever, that has worked good for you and you are happy with.
 
www.readywelder.com

I got my first introduction to the Ready Welder a few years ago with the Army, and went straight out and bought one for myself! It welds well enogh for any fab or repair project I have to do, and the great part it it is super small and can be run off batteries for trailside repair.

I have one here that sees daily use, the damm $2500 miller we have collects dust because all my guys love the RW. There are at least 50 vehicles running around Afghanistan now that they have fixed or welded armor to with it and it is still going strong.
 
Yeah I looked that up and i remember reading a bit about them and they are very cool. The only problem is there a bit out of my price range. Im looking at a tops of about 300 bucks.
 
live24wheel said:
Im looking at a tops of about 300 bucks.

well then its HF again, i got a cheap lincoln wire feeder from sears and i am not totaly happy with it and it was over $500, it works but the duty cycle is too low and the thing shuts off all the time to cool off even if you are only welding body pannels or sheet metal, i use it primaraly to tack together my projects and then i go to my dads house or to my work to weld the projects solid.

Troy
 
for that price, you have one option, learn to stick weld.

otherwise, fork over about $600 for a good machine.

anything 110v is only good for sheetmetal and exhaust.

(btw, I own a $430 lincoln 110v paperweight)
 
Ok it looks like i might be able to get a little extra money... This is the one I picked. tell me what you think...

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDU...earchResults.jsp&MID=9876&N=2984+3004&pos=n04

Its the Lincoln Electric
Weld Pak 3200HD Wire Feed Welder
Model K2190-1

Got some serious welding chores? Then you're going to want a serious welder. Lincoln Electric's Weld-Pak 3200HD handles a huge spectrum of flux-cored or MIG welding jobs -- from auto-body repairs to farm fixes to around the home chores. You just can't buy a 120V welder with a more versatile range! The Weld-Pak 3200HD comes ready to weld mild steel with self-shielded flux-cored wire right out of the box. Also included is virtually everything you need to MIG weld mild steel. Just add a cylinder of shielding gas. Rounding out the package is a welding handshield, instructional video and undercarriage. The convenient mild steel procedure chart inside the wire access door guides you to all the appropriate welder settings for the job at hand. The Weld-Pak 3200HD has a 25-135 amp output and welds up to 5/16 inch steel using flux-cored wire. The unit plugs into a 120V (20 amp) outlet. It comes with a 3 year warranty on parts and labor (90 days warranty on gun and cable).

Price: $459.00/ea
 
look around and see if you can find a hobart handler 175 on closeout (it's been superceded by the 180)

you'll need a 220v outlet for it, but I'm tellin ya right now, you're making a mistake if you buy a 110v welder.

i've seen them on closeout at tractor supply for $560-$580. you're lookin at 100-120 more for a machine that is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the 3200HD (specs out the same as the SP135, which is what I got)

if ya can't find that, save your money until you can afford at least the 175/180.

There is alot to be said about CLEAN power output and them 110v machines just can NOT produce clean power.
 
that is one of my problems is getting a 220v outlet wired to my workshop, everything I have is 110v. I can see where a 220v can be cleaner but I am not really going to be building stuff that im trying to win an award with or sell or anything. Im only planing on sliders and bumpers and that sort and then just other little stuff and thats why I liked that lincoln, I welded with a buddys lincoln that was just a bit smaller than that one and he litteraly yelled at me because I was able to run it so smooth.... so i kinda found i liked that one quite a bit.
 
i have the same lincoln and you will regret it unless you like to weld for 5 minutes and wait an hour, and the weld for 4 minuites and wait another hour, i am going inside mine and re wireing it for 220 this weekend, wait and save you wont regret it:exclamati :exclamati :exclamati :exclamati :exclamati :exclamati :exclamati :exclamati
 
What about the millermatic 135, I know its still 110v but I have heard its a good unit and works well. What do you guys think of it and does anyone have any experiance with that welder or any millermatic?
 
The MM135 is a fine small unit for light-duty work... OTOH according to my '04 catalog, it is spec'd at 90 amps@ 20% duty cycle. (weld two min, wait/cool 10 min) and up to 3/16" - 0.188" You could weld thicker material, but would take multiple passes (and longer time)

I'll go on a limb and roughly quote from a guy who works metal for a living: "Get the best welder you can afford." I've been down this road, and like you I don't have a dedicated 230V circuit (or a shop for that matter)... BUT for what I'd want to do, I cant see getting less than a 210 amp unit, like a MM210 (160a @ 60% duty cycle)... and for the extra $500 step up, the MM251 looks even better. (200a @ 60%/ 250a @ 40% duty cycle) Either a 210 or 250 (in either blue or red flavors, whichever trips your trigger) would be the last MIG welder I'd likely ever need.

Once you get your welder, make sure your wiring is up to the task and that you have a suitable breaker...(one at slightly less amps than the unit calls for...so that the breaker trips well before the unit starts making that funky smell)

I know it 'hurts' to save those pennies, but in the long run, you'll have made a better investment, and one that should last a hobbyist welder the rest of their life.

If you want to read (lots) more, search up "welder" and user names "Beezil" and "Crash"
 
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woody said:
If you want to read (lots) more, search up "welder" and user names "Beezil" and "Crash"
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I asked this question a while back and ended up reading through Beezil and Crash's posts...completely changed my mind about getting a 110v welder. Since then I've had a chance to try out some of Miller's newest 220v welders at a demo and I'm now trying to get a job to save the money to pick up one (I refuse to work at a fast food place and that's all that's available for jobs around here)
 
In my practical experience, a good quality 115 volt wire feed welder can work very well, and the limited duty cycle is less of a problem than you might think. Remember that that cycle is for full power, for one thing, and that you will not that often be needing to weld a straight bead for that long before you stop and look at it. If you get MIG, you can weld multiple layers without chipping slag in between. I would recommend that even if you need now to go with flux core (perhaps an advantage if you weld outdoors), absolutely don't get a wire feed that cannot be converted to MIG later.

I had a Hobart Handler 90 for years, and it did a great deal of good work. I recently gave it to my son, who is a sculpture student, and replaced it with a Millermatic 135, which is even nicer - fiddle free, easy to use, essentially just perfect of its type. The only time I've ever seen the Hobart pop its protective breaker was when I was teaching my son to weld, and he was making a rather elaborate sculpture out of rebar at high power.* For anything up to an eighth of an inch or so, I've never had any problem either with penetration or overloading.

By all means, get the biggest ballsiest highest-voltage welder you can possibly afford, but if you can't pull the current, don't be too afraid of a 115 MIG welder. If you later find you can run 220, you can always get a good heavy duty stick welder for the big stuff, and you'll still find yourself using the little wire feed for many jobs.

*note: my son wasn't a very good performer in high school, always on the brink of flunking out, and had hit a dead end on the "senior project," so since I knew he enjoyed art, I suggested he scrap everything, learn to weld, and do a sculpture. He came down for a few weekends, and did just that. The result was a rather interesting and elaborate sculpture made of rebar, that looked like a DNA strand, with various other things attached, culminating in a wicked looking drill bit on the top. as I recall, he called it "altar to the mosquito god." The school liked it, and in part as a result of that and some subsequent work in metal, he managed to get into art college, where he is now a junior, majoring in sculpture. If you should ever happen to be in the Beverly, Mass. vicinity, you might see brochures for the Montserrat College of Art, on the cover of which, under the heading "Art Changes Everything," is a wickedly redesigned office chair, his also. (Nah, I'm not one of those proud parents, not ME!).
 
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