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- Westminster, SoCal
More on that.... tomorrow 
(unless TBent will choose to defend himself ahead of time)
Kejtar
(unless TBent will choose to defend himself ahead of time)Kejtar
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well... no more WWR... long live Uturn Tim :D
- Thread starter Kejtar
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- Westminster, SoCal
ok... so here is the story
I met up with Tim and his son Ethan at 9am at the Arrowhead Ranger Station, and after waiting about 15 minutes we decided to hit the trail. On our way there, UTurn Tim has led me down through some more interesting parts of the local community all the way down to....a DEAD END
Once we have made it to the trail, the fun started. If my memory serves me right, we have started with Dishpan Springs, where we have met up with a Red Rubi on 35's (sweet looking rig). There the rubi passed us and we caught up to it, then it passed us and so on.....
Someplace in the middle of the trail an XJ with a really nice ZJ (guy got it all built for one hell of a price, and before he got it.... well... it probably never hit the trail!). XJ was driven by Ken (IMORTL) who got on the trail to get in couple runs before his new baby gets born, the ZJ was driven by Dave, and that red Rubi was driven by Dave as well (can't remember the name of the passenger though). Someplace in all that we also ended up meeting up with Bill in a green Rubi (he got one of the first Rubis that hit SoCal...... early order).
In any case, after finishing up Dishpan without much trouble, we went to Holocomb creek, where I have decided to hang my front passenger LCA and rear passenger spring on a rock. Don't ask me how, as it was a masterpiece not be easily repeated (ok... Bill did the same thing on John Bull later on that day). A bit of hilift action, and strap on the rock and I was free. Yeah... free to hang myself again about 100 yards up on my rock rail (GRRRR... that was the most I got myself stuck ever in a sequence!!!). In any case, a bit of rocking the XJ, back and forth, wheel turning, skinny pedal action and I was moving again.
Then the fun came... the John Bull (in reverse). It actually interesting to see it from the other direction, and dissapointing to see that the first incline on the start of John Bull (when ran normally) got evened out
. Anyways, here comes the good story.... (or actually two parallel stories). As we got to couple rocks between two trees (most probably remember that one), Ethan (TBent let his son do a bit of driving that day) walked up on it after a bit of skinny pedal action and carefull guidance from his dad. Then it was my turn.... well... lets start with a bad plan, stopping so that I don't hit the tree as I was afraid that I won't make the turn, then making the second attempt while forgetting to let go of the parking brake...... Now I know that some view the parking brake as the "poor man's locker"... but not set at full!!!! As I almsot made it over, I finally gave up due to lack of power (big surprise........). By now of course I have dug a hole with one tire so some carefull planning and rocking and moving, and shifting had to be done to get through, but I made it...... then as it turns out, as Dave's(Red Rubi) coopilot was walking, he somehow has stepped with his left foot on a branch. From this point on it was all a set of unfortunate events... The other end of the branch ended up going up.. his right leg was coming down, and it got a biiiiiiiiig piece of branch embeded and broken off in the leg! (OUCH!!!!!) So after some field surgery and use of Ken's first aid kit, Dave has removed the splinter out and bandaged the leg (they were supposed to make a stop at the ER after getting of the trail to have that looked at). Ok.... now as we're coming down further, Bill gets stuck.... while trying to avoid a rock, he ends up going up one, rolling another one with his tries and does exactly the same thing I did: big rock in the front, huge rock in the rear..... So again after hilifting the TJ, moving some rocks, taking a strap to the big rock (deja vu) he was free....
Oh... I forgot to mention the Tim Bounce..... as we were taking a sharp turn on JB, tim's rear has slipped of the side, Tim hit the brakes and his rear came up so high in the air (both tires!!!) that I could have easily drove through under neath it!! But.... gravity woke up, and brought the rear back to earth (gives new meaning to Earth to Tim!).
One more thing.... as everyone was splitting up and leaving, the last three to leave from the trail end were Tim, Dave (ZJ).... so as Tim is leading us to a gas station (he's local after all so he should know his way around LOL) he ends up leading us to a dead end and again.....a UTurn.
OK... I think that about covers it all I still have to develop my film and get the CD so that I can post pics, I see that Ken has already done so: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8176 and the rest should be showing up shortly
Remi aka Kejtar
P.S. Bill from the Rubi was amazed as to how well XJ's perform and he talked about running into another group couple weeks back
I met up with Tim and his son Ethan at 9am at the Arrowhead Ranger Station, and after waiting about 15 minutes we decided to hit the trail. On our way there, UTurn Tim has led me down through some more interesting parts of the local community all the way down to....a DEAD END
Once we have made it to the trail, the fun started. If my memory serves me right, we have started with Dishpan Springs, where we have met up with a Red Rubi on 35's (sweet looking rig). There the rubi passed us and we caught up to it, then it passed us and so on.....
Someplace in the middle of the trail an XJ with a really nice ZJ (guy got it all built for one hell of a price, and before he got it.... well... it probably never hit the trail!). XJ was driven by Ken (IMORTL) who got on the trail to get in couple runs before his new baby gets born, the ZJ was driven by Dave, and that red Rubi was driven by Dave as well (can't remember the name of the passenger though). Someplace in all that we also ended up meeting up with Bill in a green Rubi (he got one of the first Rubis that hit SoCal...... early order
).In any case, after finishing up Dishpan without much trouble, we went to Holocomb creek, where I have decided to hang my front passenger LCA and rear passenger spring on a rock. Don't ask me how, as it was a masterpiece not be easily repeated (ok... Bill did the same thing on John Bull later on that day
). A bit of hilift action, and strap on the rock and I was free. Yeah... free to hang myself again about 100 yards up on my rock rail (GRRRR... that was the most I got myself stuck ever in a sequence!!!). In any case, a bit of rocking the XJ, back and forth, wheel turning, skinny pedal action and I was moving again. Then the fun came... the John Bull (in reverse). It actually interesting to see it from the other direction, and dissapointing to see that the first incline on the start of John Bull (when ran normally) got evened out
. Anyways, here comes the good story.... (or actually two parallel stories). As we got to couple rocks between two trees (most probably remember that one), Ethan (TBent let his son do a bit of driving that day) walked up on it after a bit of skinny pedal action and carefull guidance from his dad. Then it was my turn.... well... lets start with a bad plan, stopping so that I don't hit the tree as I was afraid that I won't make the turn, then making the second attempt while forgetting to let go of the parking brake...... Now I know that some view the parking brake as the "poor man's locker"... but not set at full!!!! As I almsot made it over, I finally gave up due to lack of power (big surprise........). By now of course I have dug a hole with one tire so some carefull planning and rocking and moving, and shifting had to be done to get through, but I made it...... then as it turns out, as Dave's(Red Rubi) coopilot was walking, he somehow has stepped with his left foot on a branch. From this point on it was all a set of unfortunate events... The other end of the branch ended up going up.. his right leg was coming down, and it got a biiiiiiiiig piece of branch embeded and broken off in the leg! (OUCH!!!!!) So after some field surgery and use of Ken's first aid kit, Dave has removed the splinter out and bandaged the leg (they were supposed to make a stop at the ER after getting of the trail to have that looked at). Ok.... now as we're coming down further, Bill gets stuck.... while trying to avoid a rock, he ends up going up one, rolling another one with his tries and does exactly the same thing I did: big rock in the front, huge rock in the rear..... So again after hilifting the TJ, moving some rocks, taking a strap to the big rock (deja vu) he was free....Oh... I forgot to mention the Tim Bounce
..... as we were taking a sharp turn on JB, tim's rear has slipped of the side, Tim hit the brakes and his rear came up so high in the air (both tires!!!) that I could have easily drove through under neath it!! But.... gravity woke up, and brought the rear back to earth (gives new meaning to Earth to Tim!).One more thing.... as everyone was splitting up and leaving, the last three to leave from the trail end were Tim, Dave (ZJ).... so as Tim is leading us to a gas station (he's local after all so he should know his way around LOL) he ends up leading us to a dead end and again.....a UTurn
.OK... I think that about covers it all
I still have to develop my film and get the CD so that I can post pics, I see that Ken has already done so: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8176 and the rest should be showing up shortly Remi aka Kejtar
P.S. Bill from the Rubi was amazed as to how well XJ's perform and he talked about running into another group couple weeks back
- Location
- REDLANDS, CA. (SoCal)
U.T.T. huh? On the way to the gas station, that was not a U turn. In my defense I would like to point out that that was a pre established Cul de sac! lol! BTW, I hope that I can find that little rabbit trail that we went down on the way. It looked as though it could be a fun little trail to run going the other way. It turned out to be a very fun run though. Imortal aka Ken, it was good to meet you. Was finding Kejtar and I planned or just one of those things? I'll post a more complete AND accurate (LOL) report later on. I think that we can start calling Ethan "Thumby" after yesterday. When you see the pics he took, you'll understand.
Tim B
Tim B
- Location
- Westminster, SoCal
Hey Tim.. you got my email.. send me the pics btw... I do have the whole track on my GPS so that finding that other one shouldn't be hard
btw... I do have the whole track on my GPS so that finding that other one shouldn't be hard 
I had a good time Jeepin with you guys on Sunday. 
arty:
I had read your posts about going up to Big Bear and running. I kind of thought I would run into you at some point during the day. It sounded to me like you two were going to start your runs further up the mountain. I figured you would probably start over at gold mountain or John Bull and work your way backwards. So I didn't bother trying to track you down.
Most of the time I go out I usually like to just head up and run with people I run into. This is how I knew Red Rubi Dave. I have met him on 4 different runs. Never planned. Never called each other. Dave is a nice guy and knows his stuff. And who doesn't love watching his Rubi climb everything he points it at?
The other Dave (ZJ Dave) I met at the begining of Deep Creek. I happend to stop at the bridge to shift into 4 LO and saw his bitchin' looking ZJ sitting there. I commented to him about my Jeep envy and asked if he was planning on running the trail. He was kind of worried and was not going to do the trail. After I was done giggling at him and explained that if me and my 3" lifted XJ with 31" AT's could run the trail, that he and his 6" lift, 33" tires and an ARB locker should be able to have no trouble with Deep Creek. So he and Summer came along. He did really well but he needs to fix his bump stops or he is going to shread his front tire.
I had a GREAT:wave1: time driving behind Remi. I'm not sure if it is his style or because he has a manual trans, but he likes to drive with a lot of pedal:cheers: and that makes for great watching... I do have the video of Remi getting through the "Tree Spot" on John Bull. I'll see if I can get to that, convert it, and post it to the web for you. If we go out again together I would like to set up to tape all of the good sections.
Tim, your son did a great job driving. I was paying attn. when he got behind the wheel. And I'm sure somehow it was your fault for the body damage incurred. He must have had a great teacher, eh?
J/K..
I'm sure we will probably meet for some Jeepin' again...
I will post the link for the video when I get it converted...
Ken In Corona:wave1:
arty: I had read your posts about going up to Big Bear and running. I kind of thought I would run into you at some point during the day. It sounded to me like you two were going to start your runs further up the mountain. I figured you would probably start over at gold mountain or John Bull and work your way backwards. So I didn't bother trying to track you down.
Most of the time I go out I usually like to just head up and run with people I run into. This is how I knew Red Rubi Dave. I have met him on 4 different runs. Never planned. Never called each other. Dave is a nice guy and knows his stuff. And who doesn't love watching his Rubi climb everything he points it at?
The other Dave (ZJ Dave) I met at the begining of Deep Creek. I happend to stop at the bridge to shift into 4 LO and saw his bitchin' looking ZJ sitting there. I commented to him about my Jeep envy and asked if he was planning on running the trail. He was kind of worried and was not going to do the trail. After I was done giggling at him and explained that if me and my 3" lifted XJ with 31" AT's could run the trail, that he and his 6" lift, 33" tires and an ARB locker should be able to have no trouble with Deep Creek. So he and Summer came along. He did really well but he needs to fix his bump stops or he is going to shread his front tire.
I had a GREAT:wave1: time driving behind Remi. I'm not sure if it is his style or because he has a manual trans, but he likes to drive with a lot of pedal:cheers: and that makes for great watching... I do have the video of Remi getting through the "Tree Spot" on John Bull. I'll see if I can get to that, convert it, and post it to the web for you. If we go out again together I would like to set up to tape all of the good sections.
Tim, your son did a great job driving. I was paying attn. when he got behind the wheel. And I'm sure somehow it was your fault for the body damage incurred. He must have had a great teacher, eh?
J/K.. I'm sure we will probably meet for some Jeepin' again...
I will post the link for the video when I get it converted...
Ken In Corona:wave1:
- Location
- REDLANDS, CA. (SoCal)
The pics are on the way, feel free to delete some of the bad ones. It may be awhile before I can get to "fixing" them in photo shop.
Ken, I have to agree with you, Ethan has been a good student with a fair teacher I also agree that I put the rash on the door. Ethan was clear over to the drivers side coming up that ledge before the front slid off to the side. Remi tried grinding up to the rock at the base of the tree(the only thing that could have been guilty). He would have caught his fender flare, the scrape would have been hoizontal. The rock that got me was definately one that I was leaning towards and I was coming down on. I'm pretty sure that I did it on that last rock garden at Holcombe creek. It was then that we both heard a thunk that was not a rock rail. In fact there is a pretty good scratch that runs along the side of the rail until I think We got tilted enough to pop over and into the door/flair.
Ken, I have to agree with you, Ethan has been a good student with a fair teacher
I also agree that I put the rash on the door. Ethan was clear over to the drivers side coming up that ledge before the front slid off to the side. Remi tried grinding up to the rock at the base of the tree(the only thing that could have been guilty). He would have caught his fender flare, the scrape would have been hoizontal. The rock that got me was definately one that I was leaning towards and I was coming down on. I'm pretty sure that I did it on that last rock garden at Holcombe creek. It was then that we both heard a thunk that was not a rock rail. In fact there is a pretty good scratch that runs along the side of the rail until I think We got tilted enough to pop over and into the door/flair.
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- Westminster, SoCal
hahaha.... I still can't believe that I forgot to let go of that ebrake!!!!!!!! Talk about a moment of total stupidity I woudln't have been stuck like that as I was almost over the top when I decided to stop and as I did and I went for the ebrake I went.. ohhhhhhh crap..... lol Anyways, vid looks cool
TBent... where is your pics? I got a good excuse: mine are still in the camera
Kejtar
I still can't believe that I forgot to let go of that ebrake!!!!!!!! Talk about a moment of total stupidity I woudln't have been stuck like that as I was almost over the top when I decided to stop and as I did and I went for the ebrake I went.. ohhhhhhh crap..... lol Anyways, vid looks cool TBent... where is your pics? I got a good excuse: mine are still in the camera
Kejtar
- Location
- Westminster, SoCal
well.. the digital camera I want is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much, so I'd rather stick to my SLR that cost me an arm and a leg a while back
- Location
- REDLANDS, CA. (SoCal)
Ken, I WAS useing digital. I'm on dial-up at home and it was going to take forever to send. so I put them on a CD to take to work to send, but I forgot it at home UH:.
UH:.
- Location
- Yucaipa, CA
Looks like you had a good time. Wish I could have made it, but I was waist deep in oil and grease, changing the transmission in my chevy pick up.
Dan
Dan
