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Uttermost Off Road

creeperjeep said:
I was gonna respond to you but the burbon man pretty much summed it up.

But I do have to say you are a fawking tool.
My actions in no way have anything to do with the invisible people watching me.

Hell, I dont think I remember all the 10 commandments but, I tell you this,
1 I would do my neighbors wife.
2 I am jealous of my neighbors plasma cutter and bridgeport.
3 Im in the Army, I ^^DO^^ KILL!
4 You are still a tool.

Please answer my question yourself.

Why would you feel bad for raping a women?
 
Only if I did it on purpose.
 
CRASH said:
Only if I did it on purpose.
LOL. on purpose? You saying you can accidently rape a female?
I can just picture that happening . "Opps, Im really sorry ma'am. I sliped and fell. Really I did"
 
because it would hurt emotionally and physically, um..because I try to respect women that deserve it, and if they dont deserve it, im sure not going to poke them.

Are you that intoxicated in a story that someone uttered to you that you honestly have no idea how normal people make it through the day without raping and stealing and killing?

Some of the questions that some bornagains ask are completely off the wall, like questions that a person with brain damage would ask
 
I do not know what version you are reading or if you listed the whole scripture. However, looking at the scriptural reference you have just put up in the New King James Version 20: Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." 21: So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded,according to their kind, (now if you are trying to correlate this to evolution, I think the last part which the water abounded, in other words which the water sustains as in fish, whales, sea rays etc... not birds because God goes onto talk about birds, here you go listen), and every winged bird according to its kind. (God created sea creatures on the same day as birds so if evolution happens in a 24 hour time period than watch out tomorrow you could be a slug out on a trail if you stay on the trails to long. I get the 24 hour time period from the first day of creation Gen. 1: 3: Then God said let their be light"; and there was light. 4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5: God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. Just like we have a 24 hour day today, Morning and night.) BACK to the rest of Gen. 1: 21-24 And God saw that it was good. 22: And God blessed them, saying, " Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23: So the evning and the morning (24 hour period) were the fifth day. Now verses 24-28 talk about how on the 6th day God created man, cattle, monkeys and yes dinosaurs ( you do not find dinosaur in the Bible because the word dinosaur was coined in 1842 way after the Greek and Hebrew texts, however the hebrew texts use the tan, tannin and tannoth which more rightly translates into english dragon or behemoth.) and every land dwelling animals and yes no evolution just creations. Oh yes Adam and Eve were created on this 6th day, I know they are not talked about until chapter 2. This reason is because chapter 1 is talking about all of creation and does not get individual. However, God's most important creation was Adam and Eve and that is why they are in the very next chapter and the rest of creation is found in the rest of Gods Word. I hope that answers your question. I understand it is hard to understand, when I was in the Army I read Genesis through Deuteronmy and was like what? Until I came to the understanding 4 years later that I have sinned and the realized best evidence for the existence of God was His beautiful creation and how set apart we are from everything else. When I realized this I than realized that my sin would equal death and I needed a Savior and that Jesus was that Savior, I put my Faith in Him alone. Than I was able to pick up the Bible and read it ad understand it and the more i read the more clear it was and the stronger my Faith became. I than started to see changes in my life, I was more in tune to my conscience, I started being more compassionate and worrying less and less about what people thought and more about what God thought about me. Listen I received more when I accepted Christ than what anybody can buy with money, I received my soul back and it was cleaned. I am not telling you I am perfect, I am sure that I may have went about some of this in the wrong way, however the message is still the same Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life no man comes to the Father but through Him. John 14:6 I love you guys even if you hate me thats alright I have nobody to please but God, but remember I still love you guys. As a man who is 6'4" and married for going on 7 years I have no issues with telling you guys that I love you because God loves you that is why He put His Son on the Cross for you. God Bless and take care, I have some work to do. <><


WVXJ said:
Ok Uttermost, since you don't get and you believe every word of it, lets start on page one of the bible and make this nice and sparkling clear. Genesis, ch.1 verse 20-24, "and god said, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven."------i don't think there is a better reason than this to believe in evolution, period. How else is a bird going to come from the water except through cellular evolution, the old "primordial soup theory"? Genesis goes on to say that from the earth every living creature of his kind was made, how else but through evolution do you get cattle from mud?
 
Also if any of you have more questions than, my advice is go find a local church who's pastor teaches the Word of God and ask the pastor your questions. They can show you in Gods Word what you are looking for and has other resources for you to look at and study. Do not be afraid of what you might find out, you maybe surprised and you may still not believe, but at least you went looking and its better to know both sides than only one. Listen and if any of you are thinking church is all about money and I want you in church to raise money, than you are poorly mistaken, most of the people on here are from the West Coast and with me being on the East Coast what gain do I get from you going. The only gain I get is the Joy of knowing that you at least went looking. God Bless<><
 
How else do you get cattle from Mud? You get cattle from mud by a Supreme God who created the mud having the ability to create life with what ever He touches or speaks into existense. I know it is hard to Fathom it but everything cannot be rationalized. Some things you just have to have Faith in knowing that you are not God and He is in control, no matter if we like it or not. If you can't find reason for something, that does not make it false or a lie.
 
This thread is a....
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uttermost said:
How else do you get cattle from Mud? You get cattle from mud by a Supreme God who created the mud having the ability to create life with what ever He touches or speaks into existense. I know it is hard to Fathom it but everything cannot be rationalized. Some things you just have to have Faith in knowing that you are not God and He is in control, no matter if we like it or not. If you can't find reason for something, that does not make it false or a lie.
Where do Sheep come from?
I think they are sexy.....
 
seanR said:
Kind of like midget porn, you know it is wrong, but somehow, you just can't turn away....

.... and Sheep (for my midwest friends). :shiver:
 
uttermost said:
I do not know what version you are reading or if you listed the whole scripture.
What difference should that make? Didn't we just get a novel many pages back that said the bible has no errors or that it is all the same anyway? I could go back and quote that drivel as well, but why bother?


glfredrick said:
I just like egging you on to see how many pages we can get this thread up to... It's fun to say one thing then watch 3 more pages fly by of people saying nothing...
Yup, pages and pages of your yawning narrative. a.k.a. nothing

I pose a situation for you to consider.
Is your god benevolent?
Is your god omnipotent?
Does evil exist?

I'm not talking about the book-based 'evil' belief that there is hell after life for those who do not believe. I am referring to the asshat who kills little kids after raping them, or about the anguish of the parents - or maybe I refer to the praying sheep...errr...kids who were killed by lightning - or maybe I refer to the Josef Stalins, Adolf Hitlers and countless others who commit genocide, often in the name of their god. Or maybe I refer to the mental pain you and your wife went through after losing a child...you actually think that was done just so you could later turn to god and empower him by pissing off the "beer-drinking pagans" as you so kindly put it? That's a fawked-up deity who would mess with people so thoroughly in order to have them come work for him later...maybe he ain't quite so benevolent as you so dearly want to believe.

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to the garage makes you a mechanic. I've seen enough from many of the so-called Christians in this thread to remind me of that. I leave you with one further quote:
Gandhi said:
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
 
Uttermost, i was quoting the bible in my house, it specifically says god said, "let the waters bring forth abundantly", its a gideons bible, king james version, from 1961. The fact that yours was translated differently should tell you something about believing your interpretation is the RIGHT one.
 
Utter- You are trying to compare macro and micro evolution. Dogs did not come from ducks, nor fish to birds.

Once again, a self-proclaimed man of God making a bad name for the decent.

Fergie
 
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