Tired of Terrorists

[G.Q. Jeeper]

I know some of you guys think Canada is not an important country, and some of the comments show some of your true colours, but in reality we have more freedoms and Rights than Americans, here are a few of them

Canadians can travel anywhere in the world with NO RISTRICTIONS, and we are WELCOME anywhere in the world.

Our Government unlike yours cannot arrest without cause, and we can say whatever we like against our government, and there will be no fine or penalty

We did not have slavery on the scale that the Americans had, or had a civil war because of it (one of the major reasons for the civil war) Most African Americans came to our Country to be FREE, from America.

Take that as you want, however, in the end we can choose where to live and raise a family on both sides of the boarder, and discuss this like adults.

As for the World Government, I would support a more major roll in the world that shares its resources, rather than hog it all.

GQ

 

[red91]

with public health care and education system that is one of the best in the world.



GQ

Thats the FAWKING problem ! We give people free health care. Why do you think they come here ? Because its FREE !! Go to a hospital... why are most of the people in the E.R. Immigrants ?? Because for them its free!! Who pays for it... No not Trix the Rabbit.. You and Me and all the other TAX PAYERS !!
Do you know a hosiptal cannot deny you care even if you have no I.D., don't speak the language, or anything ELSE ??? GET THAT IN MEXICO !

And as for our education system... Why does almost every professional althlete sound like they just got out of first grade reading class ?? SOCIAL PROMOTION... We don't want Johnny to have low slef esteem, so lets just let him go to the next grade, cuase I don't wanna deal with his LAME ASS NEXT YEAR !!

Remember when they actually held kids back that had a hard time learning ? I do. It wasen't that long ago. Now you have kids who cant make change with a FAWKING calculator... WE ARE AN EMBARRASMENT to the world... JAPAN and CHINA have better education systems than we do. HISTORY in school... NOT AMERICAN history, bearly WORLD history... and these are the kids that will be leading the world one day...

Be afraid... be VERY afraid... :smsoap:

 

[red91]

I know some of you guys think Canada is not an important country, and some of the comments show some of your true colours, but in reality we have more freedoms and Rights than Americans, here are a few of them

Canadians can travel anywhere in the world with NO RISTRICTIONS, and we are WELCOME anywhere in the world.

so port au prince is now a good place to go? Have at it baby..

Our Government unlike yours cannot arrest without cause, and we can say whatever we like against our government, and there will be no fine or penalty

Talk about a revolution and see who ends up in jail. I bet the Prime Minister wouldn't put up with that for long...

We did not have slavery on the scale that the Americans had, or had a civil war because of it (one of the major reasons for the civil war) Most African Americans came to our Country to be FREE, from America.

Most Africans were sold by people in Africa, not hoarded up and put on boats by Americans. Slavery is slavery. The scale of it is mute at best. As far as the Civil War... ALOT of people died because they thought slaves should be free... At least they stood for what they believed.

As for the World Government, I would support a more major roll in the world that shares its resources, rather than hog it all.

Remember " we are the world"? and all the food that went to Africa to help them ? What didn't rot on the dock waiting for distribution, was taken by tribal warlords before it got to where it was supposed to go. The people that were to get the help never received it. ISN'T THAT HAPPY...

there are always going to be idoits wrecking everything, for everybody as often as they can.

GQ[/QUOTE]

 

[casm]

I know some of you guys think Canada is not an important country,

I've sat here and quietly followed much of what you've said in this and other threads, so would like to ask you a question: why do you seem to think this is the case? It seems almost as though you're suffering from an inferiority complex (saying that we don't consider Canada to be important) of some sort.

What exactly have we done to make you feel so insignificant, and what would you like us to do to make you feel important? Give you a vote in our government? There's a small segment of Canadian society that seems to love to remind us incessantly that they're Canada, not the US, and that we should keep out of their affairs - but when we do exactly that (which would be the vast majority of the time), they take it as a signal to mean that they can tell us how to run our country solely by virtue of the fact that we have common borders.

and some of the comments show some of your true colours, but in reality we have more freedoms and Rights than Americans, here are a few of them

I'd like to know also what you mean by 'showing some of your true colours'.

Canadians can travel anywhere in the world with NO RISTRICTIONS, and we are WELCOME anywhere in the world.

Funny, that's run rather contrary to some experiences I've had outside of North America. I've seen Canadians be as obnoxious and unpleasant as the stereotypical American tourist, then conveniently hide behind the Maple Leaf and let the Yanks bear the brunt of the locals' wrath. That really took a lot of courage, and I'd like to pass on my hearty thanks for the fist I once took in the jaw when your countrymen wouldn't own up to their piss-poor behaviour but instead blamed nearby Americans. And sluggings aside, this is not the first time I've seen something like this happen.

Our Government unlike yours cannot arrest without cause, and we can say whatever we like against our government, and there will be no fine or penalty

I'll assume this is the case; since you perhaps have not heard of it, however, the Bill of Rights actually guarantees the same freedoms to Americans. I note that there is a similar Canadian counterpart to the American one; however, it appears to keep you subject to the whims of the British Monarchy. Further, I notice that many of the fundamental freedoms explictily outlined in the American charter are conspicuous by their absence from the Canadian document - the two most being obvious are the lack of a right to defend oneself by arms if necessary, and the right to remain secure in ones home against unwarranted search.

We did not have slavery on the scale that the Americans had, or had a civil war because of it (one of the major reasons for the civil war) Most African Americans came to our Country to be FREE, from America.

As did many of America's left-wing, who exited to Canada during the 1960s and '70s to avoid service in Vietnam. For that, I apologise. It appears as though we exported much of our political rot to your country, so perhaps it is understandable where much of the present climate in Canada has come from.

Take that as you want, however, in the end we can choose where to live and raise a family on both sides of the boarder, and discuss this like adults.

Oh, believe me, I don't take any of this personally. But I do believe that if you're going to make accusations such as you have, you had best be prepared to back them up with solid facts and remember that your country is not God's Own Land. Canada has her own problems, and I would suggest looking to remedy them before pointing fingers at the rest of the world.

For any other Canadians reading, I have nothing against you or your country. I've always enjoyed visiting there, and have found Canadians to by and large be great people. I'm just tired of the soapboxing that goes on in both directions; it really does nothing to help relations one way or the other.

 

[G.Q. Jeeper]

Your missing the point,

do not put "YOUR" opinion and mix it with fact, we can go anywhere in the world that WE like, no restrictions, which makes me free to roam, I do not care if the place is bad or good, as a Canadian I choose to go where I want to go.

for your second post about starting a revolution, start one and see, so far you only offered a guess, and not a fact or a true outcome.

And as you said that they were slaves when they got here, that makes it okay? that was stupied plain and simple, exploitation is okay with you then.

There are alot of crooks in the world, why do you always go and take out the old junk in history and say this is the way that would work, I was not born in 1920, and I think outside the box when it come time for solutions, God gave you a brain why not try to use it.

As for "our" health care, with all your crapy argunments against it, it is better than what the US has or will ever have, here in Canada we do not subsidize the rich as bad as the US. Same for the Education system, we are not perfect, but are better off, according to the UN, we are in the Top 4 best places to live in the world and getting better....

GQ

 

[red91]

Your missing the point,

do not put "YOUR" opinion and mix it with fact, we can go anywhere in the world that WE like, no restrictions, which makes me free to roam, I do not care if the place is bad or good, as a Canadian I choose to go where I want to go.

for your second post about starting a revolution, start one and see, so far you only offered a guess, and not a fact or a true outcome.

No government in the world will allow it's self to be taken over passively. Fact: bolshevic revolution. Government fight to the teeth, and lost.

And as you said that they were slaves when they got here, that makes it okay? that was stupied plain and simple, exploitation is okay with you then.

I NEVER said they were slaves when they got here. You implied that we brought them here to be SLAVES. While there OWN PEOPLE sold them out. I noticed you admit that there we slaves in Canada too. The amount is not the point. NO ONE should be a slave. thats like saying I stole a 73 beetle, not a S500 mercedes so I shouldn't spend as much time in jail be cause it was worth less.

There are alot of crooks in the world, why do you always go and take out the old junk in history and say this is the way that would work, I was not born in 1920

Those who don't study history are condemend to repeat it. This has been going on since the dawn of time.

As for "our" health care, with all your crapy argunments against it, it is better than what the US has or will ever have

I don't see everyone flocking to canada for a heart transplant. wonder why...[quote here in Canada we do not subsidize the rich as bad as the US.

But you do subsidize them. Same argument. It's not about how much, it's that you government and ours does. Doesn't mean I like it.

Same for the Education system, we are not perfect, but are better off, according to the UN, we are in the Top 4 best places to live in the world and getting better....

You can't believe EVERYTHING the U.N. says. on the U.N. building is the bible verse that states " we will beat our swords into plowshares". So why do they have a standing Military Force? Obviously because they need one.

When Canada makes up its collective mind to help others instead of waiting for everyone else in the world to get on the bandwagon, let us know.

GQ[/QUOTE]

 

[casm]

do not put "YOUR" opinion and mix it with fact, we can go anywhere in the world that WE like, no restrictions, which makes me free to roam, I do not care if the place is bad or good, as a Canadian I choose to go where I want to go.

Please, before responding - read what was written and respond to it. I can also go anywhere that I like, because I also hold an EU passport. Since this was obviously some sort of competition (silly of me not to notice), I guess that puts me on a better footing than you, because I can not only travel anywhere, but also work without hindrance in Europe and North America. Good thing we got that out of the way!

There are alot of crooks in the world, why do you always go and take out the old junk in history and say this is the way that would work, I was not born in 1920, and I think outside the box when it come time for solutions, God gave you a brain why not try to use it.

This makes no sense whatsoever. So far, your only suggestion has been to have some form of one-world government running the whole show which, quite frankly, is not an idea people in pretty much any country are in favour of in any sort of meaningful way.

As for "our" health care, with all your crapy argunments against it, it is better than what the US has or will ever have, here in Canada we do not subsidize the rich as bad as the US. Same for the Education system, we are not perfect, but are better off, according to the UN, we are in the Top 4 best places to live in the world and getting better....

I see, it's a game of 'we're better than you'. OK, Norway, Sweden and Australia got the top 3. Sorry, but you're still not number one.

Also: ask me how much I care about the opinion of the UN.

 

[G.Q. Jeeper]

I've sat here and quietly followed much of what you've said in this and other threads, so would like to ask you a question: why do you seem to think this is the case? It seems almost as though you're suffering from an inferiority complex (saying that we don't consider Canada to be important) of some sort.

What exactly have we done to make you feel so insignificant, and what would you like us to do to make you feel important? Give you a vote in our government? There's a small segment of Canadian society that seems to love to remind us incessantly that they're Canada, not the US, and that we should keep out of their affairs - but when we do exactly that (which would be the vast majority of the time), they take it as a signal to mean that they can tell us how to run our country solely by virtue of the fact that we have common borders.



I'd like to know also what you mean by 'showing some of your true colours'.



Funny, that's run rather contrary to some experiences I've had outside of North America. I've seen Canadians be as obnoxious and unpleasant as the stereotypical American tourist, then conveniently hide behind the Maple Leaf and let the Yanks bear the brunt of the locals' wrath. That really took a lot of courage, and I'd like to pass on my hearty thanks for the fist I once took in the jaw when your countrymen wouldn't own up to their piss-poor behaviour but instead blamed nearby Americans. And sluggings aside, this is not the first time I've seen something like this happen.



I'll assume this is the case; since you perhaps have not heard of it, however, the Bill of Rights actually guarantees the same freedoms to Americans. I note that there is a similar Canadian counterpart to the American one; however, it appears to keep you subject to the whims of the British Monarchy. Further, I notice that many of the fundamental freedoms explictily outlined in the American charter are conspicuous by their absence from the Canadian document - the two most being obvious are the lack of a right to defend oneself by arms if necessary, and the right to remain secure in ones home against unwarranted search.



As did many of America's left-wing, who exited to Canada during the 1960s and '70s to avoid service in Vietnam. For that, I apologise. It appears as though we exported much of our political rot to your country, so perhaps it is understandable where much of the present climate in Canada has come from.



Oh, believe me, I don't take any of this personally. But I do believe that if you're going to make accusations such as you have, you had best be prepared to back them up with solid facts and remember that your country is not God's Own Land. Canada has her own problems, and I would suggest looking to remedy them before pointing fingers at the rest of the world.

For any other Canadians reading, I have nothing against you or your country. I've always enjoyed visiting there, and have found Canadians to by and large be great people. I'm just tired of the soapboxing that goes on in both directions; it really does nothing to help relations one way or the other.

Most of what you said is B.S. however to clear some of the points more directly, cops and the government do need a seach warrent to come on my property.

Second, we are aloud to have guns up here, we just know how to regulate them better than you guys, which makes Canada a safe country, hell there is only been 4 murders in my City this year, and I live in a City that has over 500,000 people.

This is not pointing the finger, however you do not need to be sarcastic with responding to posts, everytime someone says the US is wrong on this or that, all hell breaks loose and the flaming begings! I though you guys like freedom of speach?

GQ

 

[red91]

CASM,

He works in TV broadcasting. I wonder is that controlled by the government like it is in most socialist countries? If so it would make him a government worker. NO WONDER why he defends it tooth and nail.

1984... speak - crime. Don't say anything bad or the ministry of LOVE will come and visit you... :scared:

 

[casm]

This is not pointing the finger, however you do not need to be sarcastic with responding to posts, everytime someone says the US is wrong on this or that, all hell breaks loose and the flaming begings!

And God forbid when you say that Canada is the be-all, end-all word in how to run a country that anyone may disagree with you.

I though you guys like freedom of speach?

Freedom of speech is just peachy by me; you'll notice at no point have I told you that you can't say any of what you have. However, it's an occupational hazard of stating one's opinion in public that the public may not agree with what you're saying. In this case, the public is choosing to exercise their right to reply.

Further, if you're going to tell me how much America sucks compared to Canada, that's fine. However, you should realise that the chances are you're probably not going to say anything I haven't heard before anyway if you stick to the usual rhetoric (America kills little babies, they just want to put McDonalds everywhere, you're all raping the earth, etc.). Please, it's not anything we haven't heard before. You may want to look into providing a cogent argument for your statements; it might cause us to take you seriously.

Anyway, that's fine. Feel free to direct your undoubtedly-righteous indignation towards the US at... I guess it would be whomever will listen to your ramblings. But until you actually reply to what I'm writing and not what you think will whip me up into a frenzy, I'm done with the subject.

He works in TV broadcasting. Just like america, it must be the most LIBERAL occupation on earth.

Heh. Bad enough I live at ground zero for that here.

 

[Darky]

I can see where your education system bests ours... I'll point out your mistakes here...
You're missing the point, do not put "YOUR" opinion and mix it with fact, we can go anywhere in the world that WE like, no restrictions, which makes me free to roam, I do not care if the place is bad or good, as a Canadian I choose to go where I want to go.
That's just one big, huge, rambling, long runon sentence.
For your second post about starting a revolution, start one and see, so far
you only offered a guess not a fact or a true outcome.
As you said that they were slaves when they got here, that makes it okay? That was stupid, plain and simple. Exploitation is okay with you then.
There are a lot of crooks in the world, why do you always go and take out the old junk in history and say this is the way that would work, I was not born in 1920, and I think outside the box when it come time for solutions, God gave you a brain why not try to use it.
I'm not even gonna try and fix that one, another huge runon, and it doesn't make a huge amount of sense.

As for "our" health care, with all your crappy arguments against it, it is better
than what the US has or will ever have. Here in Canada we do not subsidize the rich as bad as the US. Same for the Education system, we are not perfect, but are better off. According to the UN, we are in the Top 4 best places to live in the world and getting better....

GQ

I fixed your errors in grammar and spelling here as well. Go Canada schools!!
Yeah, and according to the UN, Saddam was an alright guy who didn't need to be taken out of power.

 

[red91]

Didn't we get that MAD COW diseased BEEF from Canada?? Pretty F 'n safe to me !!!

 

[Darky]

Most of what you said is B.S. however to clear some of the points more directly, cops and the government do need a search warrant to come on my property. Second, we are allowed to have guns up here, we just know how to regulate them better than you guys, which makes Canada a safe country, hell there is only been 4 murders in my city this year, and I live in a city that has over 500,000 people.
This is not pointing the finger, however you do not need to be sarcastic with responding to posts, everytime someone says the US is wrong on this or that, all hell breaks loose and the flaming begins! I thought you guys like freedom of speech?

Compare this back to you original post, I've corrected all your spelling and grammar errors. That's the American education system at work! Maybe the Canadian system isn't as good as you think...

 

[Darky]

Ok well, that didn't work quite as planned, the stuff moved over after I submitted the reply, but if you're going to use the argument that your education system works better than ours, it's always a good thing to make sure you show us that with your good spelling and grammar. When you said that cops can't come on your property and search your stuff without cause is that somehow different from here? We also are protected by the law in that situation. Police also need a search warrant to search my house or vehicle. If they ask to search my vehicle and I say yes they can search then too, otherwise they need a warrant or probable cause.
Also, how exactly do you know how to regulate guns better up there? As Casm has been saying, you need to provide an argument to support your claims. Has it occurred to you that maybe criminals just come here more then up there because they know that they have all the rights they are given here and that makes it easier for the to operate. That's the main problem with gun regulations. No matter how tightly you control them, it won't matter to those who use them for crime. Obviously they have no qualms with breaking the law so why would they worry about the law as they acquire illegal weapons? Or maybe its just too friggin cold up there to run a successful crime business year round...

 

[red91]

We'd also like to thank YOUR prime minister for being TOO BUSY to come to the State Funeral for Ronald Reagan. atriot:

Nice show of respect. Oh yeah that puts you in the same boat as the country to the South of us. Thanks to Vincente ( everyone run to America and send us back your money, bitch !) Fox.

 

[red91]

Compare this back to you original post, I've corrected all your spelling and grammar errors. That's the American education system at work! Maybe the Canadian system isn't as good as you think...

the Canadian version of Windows doesn't have spell check...

 

[G.Q. Jeeper]

Oaky I see your point, I am typing fast and I do not check my spelling too often on here, besides it was America that made up order by number, cause the iliteracy rate in the US is very high.

Second many nations disagree with the US on many fronts, with the stupied war being the most relevant, why did the US go into Iraq? the "Terrorits" were in Afganistan! and second where are your "weapons" of "mass" "destruction"? they were all made up by Bush and his Administration to go and finish Daddy's job and make some of his business cronies rich(er), and to take more cheap oil home to fill up his Tahoe to drive 1 block.

Now the funniest part is, Star Wars (HAHA) like some nation is going to go and throw a missle at the US, give me a break, when was the last time this happened?? Last I check the last attack the states had their own airplanes attack buildings, so what is the American way?, invest billions in something that is going to do F**** all to keep America safe.

I hope Canada does not participate in the Star Wars Fiasco, and keeps going the other way!

I am finished with this post, going to move on to more important things like fixing up my XJ!!! so I can wheel the sucker!!! YAY!!

GQ

 

[red91]

Oaky I see your point, I am typing fast and I do not check my spelling too often on here, besides it was America that made up order by number, cause the iliteracy rate in the US is very high.

its spelled "ILLITERACY". Jesus please help this unfortunate soul who is getting his ASS handed to him. Oh, and by the way, I ordered a #4 Value meal in Vancouver, B.C. 3 weeks ago. Wonder how much $ that pumps into your economy...

Second many nations disagree with the US on many fronts, with the stupied war being the most relevant, why did the US go into Iraq? the "Terrorits" were in Afganistan! and second were are your "weapons" of "mass" "destruction"? they were all made up by Bush and his Administration to go and finish Daddy job and make some of his business cronies rich(er), and to take more cheap oil home to fill up his Tahoe to drive 1 block.

If the oil is CHEAPER where the hell is it? WMD'S? Every country on the planet , except yours,knew he was planning, or had them. Even France. And I always wondered who's ass France could kick. Now I know. So I suppose that you think it is acceptable for Saddam Hussein to kill hundreds of thousands of his own citizens? NICE dude.

Now the funniest part is, Star Wars (HAHA) like some nation is going to go and throw a missle at the US, give me a break, when was the last time this happened?? Last I check the last attack the states had their own airplanes attack buildings, so what is the American way?, invest billions in something that is going to do F**** all to keep America safe.

Whats so funny. The Canadian army is like the Mexican Navy. Just 'cause you have it doesn't mean it will do any good.

I hope Canada does not participate in the Star Wars Fiasco, and keeps going the other way!

With your exchange rate being what it is you couldn't keep up...

/I am finished with this post, going to move on to more important things like fixing up my XJ!!! so I can wheel the sucker!!! YAY!!

I'd quit too. You've been spanked more than a 3 yr old.

GQ

 

[Darky]

Don't worry, I'll leave your crappy spelling alone on this one, although typing fast doesn't really account for "stupied"...And about the oil...last I checked our gas prices are still over $2/gallon here in CA. Why did we go into Iraq? To take out an evil, tyrannical dictator. We went there because we care what is going on in the rest of the world. We don't just sit on our butts and say all is well with us and let it stop there. Canada sent troops to help us in Afghanistan and I applaud you for that, but that doesn't mean its ok for you to now start telling us what to do. I'm not even sure what Terrorits are, I think they may be the retarded :wierd: cousins of terrorists though. As of yet there haven't been any missile attacks but what with all these third world countries (India, Pakistan) with not a whole lot to lose, or countries with psychotic leaders (N.Korea) getting nukes and the ability to make missiles that can reach us, who wants to take that chance. As you've said many countries have problems with us, but thus is the price for trying to mediate between nations, like the UN has been utterly ineffective at. Seeing as to how we, as a world superpower, will most likely continue to project force around the world and try to keep people in line, its nice to know we have some form of defence in that event, no matter how unlikely it is.

 

[Darky]

red91inWA, :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
spanked more than a 3yr old...that's great!