THe NAC Lots-O-BFG KO2 Thread

[MoparManiac]

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Seemed like something that had to get done. What's stopping me from assembling the hubs onto the spindles of both axles all at once and then seal off the outside temporarily?

Conveniently, the threads on the D60 spindle are the same as the D70 spindle. The D70 uses a nylok 2 9/16 nut but I think I'd prefer to just get another set of 6-slotted nuts and use 2 nuts and a keyed washer like I have for the front axle.

Eh it's not a big deal, just seems like wasted effort/more weight to move around I guess.

Yup same threads. That nylock nut was on my CTDs rear axle was well. Such a dumb idea. I got a set of spindle nuts to match my front as well, good idea.

 

[RCman]

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... set of 6-slotted nuts and use 2 nuts and a keyed washer like I have for the front axle.

I like the 4 slot nuts with the pin better. That thin stamped retaining tab thingy tends to have the ears break off after a few uses on the 6 slot ones. The pin style is a little more of a pain to install but once you get the trick down it isn't hard at all.

 

[asp]

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Colin, Is your parts guy open on Saturdays? I might have him set the races, press the studs, true the rotors (and buy some of those parts from him)

 

[vetteboy]

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I'm 90% sure it's this one:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RA-0770

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-RA-0770/

but here's the list by dimensions:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/univovalstr.aspx

I forget what the throttle body opening is...might wanna double check that.

I might order another too next time I get something from Summit...I've already cleaned it once but it's looking a little scummy & deflated. :laugh:

 

[asp]

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I like the 4 slot nuts with the pin better. That thin stamped retaining tab thingy tends to have the ears break off after a few uses. The pin style is a little more of a pain to install but once you get the trick down it isn't hard at all.

I know the style you're talking about but I don't know how it works (other than the fact that it has a pin. How does it work any differently? Is there a pin on the keyed washer to keep the inside nut from turning? Sounds like it'd work better. But if the 6 slot, non-keyed style works for trucks that go hundreds of thousands of miles, I think it'll be fine for me.

 

[asp]

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Rob those brackets you quoted look like what I need. The problem is that I don't know if my D70 is from a Ford or not :laugh3: I think it is... but who knows. That bracket bolts right onto the 4 bolt pattern that the drum backing plate bolted to, right?

 

[RCman]

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Colin, Is your parts guy open on Saturdays? I might have him set the races, press the studs, true the rotors (and buy some of those parts from him)

I wouldn't waste the time or effort going to and from him. Spend the 20min and do it yourself. Also, don't kid yourself on the speed, the rotors don't need tor be trued.

I forget what the throttle body opening is...might wanna double check that.

The minor diameter of the neck is about 10thou shy of 2 5/8" so that filter should be a snug fit.
BTW, K&N oiled filter? uke:

I know the style you're talking about but I don't know how it works (other than the fact that it has a pin. How does it work any differently? Is there a pin on the keyed washer to keep the inside nut from turning? Sounds like it'd work better. But if the 6 slot, non-keyed style works for trucks that go hundreds of thousands of miles, I think it'll be fine for me.

It is not so much the miles as the amount of possible times you'll have that hub off. The pin is on the inside nut and hits a hole in the keyed washer thingy to stop it from turning. Personal preference really.

That bracket bolts right onto the 4 bolt pattern that the drum backing plate bolted to, right?

If it is anything like mine, yes.

 

[vetteboy]

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I like the 4 slot nuts with the pin better. That thin stamped retaining tab thingy tends to have the ears break off after a few uses on the 6 slot ones. The pin style is a little more of a pain to install but once you get the trick down it isn't hard at all.

Mine are 6-slotted in the style you describe. Mo slots = mo better.

You think that's a pain, the same style on a D44 is even worse.

 

[vetteboy]

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BTW, K&N oiled filter? uke:

As opposed to...?

I'd say the majority of the oil on mine is from what pukes out of the dipstick tube during sustained high RPM's.

My old engine seemed totally happy to run with no filter at all for 2 years, go figure. :dunce:

 

[asp]

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I wouldn't waste the time or effort going to and from him. Spend the 20min and do it yourself. Also, don't kid yourself on the speed, the rotors don't need tor be trued.

It is not so much the miles as the amount of possible times you'll have that hub off. The pin is on the inside nut and hits a hole in the keyed washer thingy to stop it from turning. Personal preference really.

If it is anything like mine, yes.

Ha, good point about the speed.

Are washers available for purchase by their lonesome? Or only as a set with the nuts?

Good to know, thanks.

 

[RCman]

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Mine are 6-slotted in the style you describe. Mo slots = mo better.

You think that's a pain, the same style on a D44 is even worse.

Haha.
Yeah, unfortunately I now about teh D44 versions. TTB style rebuild on a truck that, plows and then sits the rest of the year in a field. Yuck.

As opposed to...?

I'd say the majority of the oil on mine is from what pukes out of the dipstick tube during sustained high RPM's.

My old engine seemed totally happy to run with no filter at all for 2 years, go figure. :dunce:

Any oiless filter.

Haha, no filter? I'm not that ballsy with my luck I'd suck in a bird or something.

Are washers available for purchase by their lonesome? Or only as a set with the nuts?

I don't know. I just bought the sets of 4 slotted ones after the previous owner had pretty much killed the 6 slot version ones on my axle. Must have tried using a screwdriver and a punch to remove and install the nuts. I had to as the socket wouldn't even fit the slots anymore.

 

[ktm racer 419]

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Haha, no filter? I'm not that ballsy with my luck I'd suck in a bird or something.

true story

 

[MoparManiac]

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I like the 4 slot nuts with the pin better. That thin stamped retaining tab thingy tends to have the ears break off after a few uses on the 6 slot ones. The pin style is a little more of a pain to install but once you get the trick down it isn't hard at all.

Ditto on the last part, I've only ever had to deal with 4 pin ones.

Colin, Is your parts guy open on Saturdays? I might have him set the races, press the studs, true the rotors (and buy some of those parts from him)

Sure but expect to pay for it. Not sure that you need to do it though as Bill said. I did it before speaking to anyone.

I'm 90% sure it's this one:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RA-0770

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-RA-0770/

but here's the list by dimensions:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/univovalstr.aspx

I forget what the throttle body opening is...might wanna double check that.

I might order another too next time I get something from Summit...I've already cleaned it once but it's looking a little scummy & deflated. :laugh:

:laugh: Sweet I'll probably see if there's a paper element the same style, if not I'll just run that.

It is not so much the miles as the amount of possible times you'll have that hub off. The pin is on the inside nut and hits a hole in the keyed washer thingy to stop it from turning. Personal preference really.

Not sure if that's the reason my D44 spindle nuts loosened up or not.

Couldn't have been the multiple counts of airtime :laugh:

You think that's a pain, the same style on a D44 is even worse.

Maybe I'm missing something but mine weren't that bad...?

 

[vetteboy]

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You're seriously wanting to just buy a washer to the hub nut setup?

Aside from the fact that it's worthless without the pinned nut that goes with it...really?

I've also never heard of truing rotors. Hell, the rotors on the XJ, I think nothing of smacking them directly with a sledgehammer to install/remove if the inner wheel bearing is being a pain. The brake pads are 4+ years old.

 

[ktm racer 419]

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I've also never heard of truing rotors. Hell, the rotors on the XJ, I think nothing of smacking them directly with a sledgehammer to install/remove if the inner wheel bearing is being a pain. The brake pads are 4+ years old.

i had to smash my rotor a billiondy times once or twice to get the hub off.

its all dented up.

works mint.

my front pads turn to shit after a while though. and stopping power isnt what it used to be

but i still replace jeeps more often than brake pads

 

[vetteboy]

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Any oiless filter.

Haha, no filter? I'm not that ballsy with my luck I'd suck in a bird or something.

Do they even make paper filters in that style?

And yeah, somewhere around late 2007 my air filter vanished. Just had the stock intake tube on it, nothing else.

November 2009 when I finally seized the motor, the cylinder walls looked mint and I sold the head to some guy who took it to get rebuilt, and the machinist didn't even have to touch it really. That was a good motor.

Maybe I'm missing something but mine weren't that bad...?

Remember I skipped the D44 step. Unit bearings straight to D60 hubs. The D44 hubs are friggin tiny and much harder to work inside of IMO.

 

[foxwar71]

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Haha, you guys have silly spindle nuts. My 14b is just a keyway and a snap ring to hold it in, don't have to worry about it loosening up.

 

[MoparManiac]

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Chris do you think my trackbar bracket will be ok? Bill said he was a little worried with it just being welded to the .120" wall DOM, so I added the other .250" wall DOM and gusset to help with tearing...?

 

[ktm racer 419]

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Chris do you think my trackbar bracket will be ok? Bill said he was a little worried with it just being welded to the .120" wall DOM, so I added the other .250" wall DOM and gusset to help with tearing...?

id run it and keep an eye on it.

id be worried about the .120 tearing around it

 

[MoparManiac]

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Yeah that was my plan.