Stroking Vs Forced induction

What's better bang for the buck.

  • Strokers! can't beat that instant power

    Votes: 33 60.0%

  • Force fed all the way. Look at all of that power before it went boom.

    Votes: 14 25.5%

  • Huh? I'm swaping to a 2.5

    Votes: 8 14.5%
  • Total voters
    55
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The pros and cons of Forced induction and Stroking.

Strokers
Pro's: Instant throttle response, Continuous power, Reliablility (essentially a new engine).
Con's: Cost My low buck stroker will run around 2300$ when it's all said and done.

Forced induction
Use a Turbo out of a junk yard /w fuel management.
Pro's: Cheap,Reusable, Replaceable junkyard engines.
Con's: Reliability (Engine wear/non rebuilt engine), Delayed response (during spool), Plumbing, Fuel management.


I'm working on a stroker motor and my dad is interested in more HP but is leaning more towards force feeding.
What do you think the pro's and cons are and what has the most bang for your buck.
I know there's similiar threads but I want the pro's and cons not just "You should".


Add your pro's and cons :D
 
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A stroker is mostly drop in. FI usually needs to be custom. The 4.0L should live fairly long with low boost numbers (~8psi). FI will need some king of fuel management piggy back at least. With a stroker you can get away with a MAP adjuster or larger injectors.

You forgot to add stroker+FI to your poll.
 
Talyn said:
A stroker is mostly drop in. FI usually needs to be custom. The 4.0L should live fairly long with low boost numbers (~8psi). FI will need some king of fuel management piggy back at least. With a stroker you can get away with a MAP adjuster or larger injectors.
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Agreed, I was thinking about putting complication under a con for turbo but it ended up being plumbing. I personally haven't researched FI aside from knowing most the kits that used to be around are not for sale anymore.

Thanks for the addition.
Talyn said:
You forgot to add stroker+FI to your poll
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My bad, I figured you'd go for the 2.5 over both. :D
I also forgot to add the Ebay electronic Turbosupercharger.
 
You would have a better chance getting reasonably close to the correct A/F ratio with a stroker - FI would take a little more work and you would probably need more equipment to measure for it. We'll call that a con for FI

If you use jy engines they wont be there for that long, but if you build a FI engine correctly you wont be in a "replaceable engine" situation. Con for FI, on account of the learning curve to build it properly.

I would say the heart of a stroker is the crank - getting a decent one that will be reliable is getting difficult, but you can still pick one up for 300ish in most places. A decent turbo/sc would run you more. Pro for stroker, its cheaper.

I vote stroker. If Im constantly have to replace the engine I wouldnt call that a win. All this is assuming youre doing one or the other, not both. Both is best. There are no cons. If you think there are cons, go home.
 
seanyb505 said:
You would have a better chance getting reasonably close to the correct A/F ratio with a stroker - FI would take a little more work and you would probably need more equipment to measure for it. We'll call that a con for FI

If you use jy engines they wont be there for that long, but if you build a FI engine correctly you wont be in a "replaceable engine" situation. Con for FI, on account of the learning curve to build it properly.

I vote stroker. If Im constantly have to replace the engine I wouldnt call that a win. All this is assuming youre doing one or the other, not both. Both is best. There are no cons. If you think there are cons, go home.
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Fuel management is on there :D, Reliability is on there.
learning curve would fall under fuelmanagement and plumbing since that's all there is to learn.

Strokers are more expensive then a jy turbo.

seanyb505 said:
300ish in most places. A decent turbo/sc would run you more. Pro for stroker, its cheaper.
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If you think a crank is the most expensive part of a stroker build you are mistaken.
 
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wolfpackjeeper said:
It was the single highest cost item of my build
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You can't really calculate an individual part of a build that has atleast 50 individual pieces Vs to the cost of building a turbo setup and have an argument.
 
AIbandit said:
You can't really calculate an individual part of a build that has atleast 50 individual pieces Vs to the cost of building a turbo setup and have an argument.
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right, but that was not your argument against seanyB.

You said that if he thought the crank was the most expensive part than he was mistaken. I posted up that I was the most expensive part of My build. I was never making an argument about one system versus another.

I want to boost my stroker eventually, but I may go the blower route.
 
wolfpackjeeper said:
right, but that was not your argument against seanyB.

You said that if he thought the crank was the most expensive part than he was mistaken. I posted up that I was the most expensive part of My build. I was never making an argument about one system versus another.

I want to boost my stroker eventually, but I may go the blower route.
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I didn't mean literally that part I meant as a whole so yes that was my argument. Stroker vs turbo costs.

Also you can buy cranks for 170$ preground so even with your insanely low machining costs it's still not the most expensive part. Good try though can we stop derailing now.
 
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boost is just fun:roflmao:

and addicting the sound of a turbo spooling is an amazing. and you can scare people with the blow off :thumbup:
 
I guess I should of specified. The point of this is rock crawling nothing else no dd just crawling
 
seanyb505 said:
Please tell me how Im mistaken when you did not build my stroker, or pay for any of it...
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This is overall costs vs overall costs sorry a jy turbo would be much much cheaper. Drink water and stop derailing. If you have something informative to add to this thread please feel free.
 
The point of this is rock crawling nothing else.
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Stroker or V8.
Sorry but the cost of stroking is just going nuts. The first 4.5 I saw costed 500 TOTAL. Good USED drop-in cranks are a thing of the past and low milage blocks are getting hard to find. The turm cheap stroker is a joke any more. Sorry
You see a lot of post about LT1 being droped in but I think over all a Ford would fit easyer and make all the torque many would want,
I myself is looking real close at a totaled tang for just this tranplant.
 
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