Stroker + stock drive train?

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I recently purchased a 4.6 stroker that is being put in my jeep. Do i have to worry about breaking any drive parts? I usually just drive on the street, not even alot on the highway. Ive got a 3 inch and 31's.

 

[cjovertj]

the only thing i would worry about is maybe the rear axle, but 31s arent huge so i wouldnt worry about it

wheel it till you break an axle shaft then go to a d44 or a 9"

 

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do you think i have to worry about breaking stuff if im hotrodding it on the street? like if i launch really hard or somthing?

 

[cjovertj]

i havnt had any problems w/ mine and im a guy who enjoys a burnout or donut(mmmm donut)

granted mines stock right now w/ only a few power upgrades but i don't think youll have any probs except from your rear axle and possibly your output shaft(get an sye if you don't already)

like i said drive it until you find the weak spot(when you hear a snap and then you stop moving)

the only other thing i would worry about is maybe some axle wrap

 

[jeepinwi]

The thing that you'll find when launching hard on the pavement is wheel hop is hard to avoid if you begin spinning. My XJ hops pretty bad when I launch hard with the stroker. You can fix this problem by adding a traction bar on the driver's side from the axle to the frame.

Besides that, you shouldn't have any problems with the stock drivetrain.

 

[Beej]

What year is your Jeep?

What axles, tranny, transfer case, etc?

The AW4 is touted to survive 400+ hp without mods.
The AX15 is touted to survive 350+ hp without mods.
The NV231, 242 are touted to survive 300+ hp without breakage.
The D30 will probably not break on 31's.
The D35 is poop and may grenade pulling out of your driveway with a stock 4-banger.
The 8.25" is comparable to a D44 except for the c-clips and will probably not break on 31's.

I have a 97 on 31's with an AX15, NV231, D30 front and 8.25" rear. I smoke the tires hard from time to time and have never broken anything other than a u-joint. I've had some bad axlewrap and wheelhop though, but that's the fault of the springs.

2 cents...

 

[XJoshua]

In spring of '07 we'll find out how long a 18 year old dana 35 thats been through hell and back can handle a 4.7L making ughh 280bhp...

I have faith in my dana35, misplaced faith maybe, but its handled several high rpm burnouts that I wish I had never done because Im sure I lost 30k miles of axle life.

 

[jeepnuts311]

i dont think on the street you will get enough traction to break a shaft. most breakages occur because of tire spinning and catching a big hunk of rock, or hard landings. i launched my XJ into/out of a ditch during a hydroplane and landed on the back left (dana 35) and broke the shaft clean off, but i wheeled locked with 33s for a whole year without breakin it.

if you tromp on the stroker, you will break traction, not axles.

-Tim

 

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I see, anyone have any idea about 0-60 or 1/4 mile? For a while ill be running an Aw-4 with 3.07's, because i swapped from a Ba10/5, but eventually I'll get 4.10's.

Dana 30 front
Dana 35 rear
3 inch Black Diamond
31" Bfg A/T's
Craegar Soft 8's
T/c drop
Jks Quick Disco's
Other little Doo-Dads

 

[jeepnuts311]

6.732 sec 0-60
16.147 sec 1/4 mile


:wave:
-Tim

edit: if it wasnt obvious, im not serious

 

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Haha, i was wondering how you could be soo exact, haha jk.

 

[jeepnuts311]

with 3.07s it will be pretty sluggish i think with the AW4. the stroker will give you more power, but i think a stock HO with 3.55s would keep up with you. when you get 4.10s you should be pretty damn fast.

-Tim

 

[Dr. Dyno]

The D35 is poop and may grenade pulling out of your driveway with a stock 4-banger.

I'll have to disagree with you there. I've done 210k miles in my Jeep and 36k of them with the stroker, and my rear D35 has survived very well. That said, I have stock diameter tires, I don't do heavy wheeling, and I don't launch from the traffic lights like a dragster every time.
With the stroker, you're far more likely to break traction at the rear tires than break an axle. If I launch at anything over 2500rpm, I get pretty bad wheel hop. A traction bar definitely helps.
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'92 XJ with 4.6L "poor man's" stroker
204rwhp@4500, 250rwtq@3500-4000 on Dastek dyno

 

[Schimiz3306]

With 3" and 31s, I doubt you need an SYE kit. It could be an ok investment, but I doubt you'll run into issues with your u-joints and shafts. I never had wheel hop in my 98 XJ. Smooth as could be. Fond memories of powerbraking the living hell out of her. :confused1 I laid down an 80-ft (no joke, measured with a tape) peg-legger the night before I put on the first lift. At this point, I tried once for shits and giggles, but I can't get the 32" TSL Radials to light 'em up...just not happening.

Who manufactured the stroker? Golen?

 

[BlueCuda]

I wouldn't worry about it. My D35 had 200K on it and lived fine behind my stroker. Its not your your doubling yourhorsepower so you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

 

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I bought the stroker off of a member of this site. It was built by a master jeep mechanic who works at a dealership up around asheville NC. It supposedly pumps out about 260 hp and im guessing about 320 ft/lbs tq.

 

[87manche]

I think it really depends on your particular d35.
I've got one out back that ate it's spider gears, it was behind a 4 banger with a 4 speed in an MJ.
I've got one in the back of my junk with a full detroit that's holding up alright behind my 4.0, I wheeled it with 31's, haven't had a chance to beat on it much with 34's. I expect it to die soon, 8.8 plans are in the works.
I'd also confirm what trans you have, the list above is good, but your profile says you have an 88, which would have come from the factory with a BA-10 trans if it was a 4.0 and 5 spd.
The BA-10 was barely adequate for a stock 4.0, I don't think it would live long behind a stroker and a lead foot.

 

[Dr. Dyno]

I bought the stroker off of a member of this site. It was built by a master jeep mechanic who works at a dealership up around asheville NC. It supposedly pumps out about 260 hp and im guessing about 320 ft/lbs tq.

You'll only get those numbers if you have a performance cam, ported HO head, and all the external bolt-on performance mods that you can think of. You won't get anywhere near those numbers if you've got a stock intake, stock TB, or stock exhaust.

 

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When i bought the stroker I also bought an Aw-4 which is getting installed with the stroker, I know how weak the BA10/5 is, I already killed one. Im not sure if it's cammed or what not, but the person i bought it off of told me it had about 260 hp. I plan on pulling the intake manifold and TB off of the blown motor to port and polish them. As far as exhaust Iv'e got 2.5 inch piping running through a glasspack, intake will be home-made.

 

[brent]

The AW4 is touted to survive 400+ hp without mods.

if this is the case why am I on the second one? and its acting like the first one when I replaced it,

problem: taking hills or under load, it gets hot, 190 or so, this is fine... but when I crest the hill or coast afterwards, the temp pegs 250+, sounds to me a pump issue.

running: 93 block stroked .30 over, aluminum head, 1.7 roller rockers, clifford cam, (dont remember off the top of my head which one) clifford header, electric cooling fans, stock aw4, stock t-case, 4.88 gears, 37" rubber, 6" lift.
kinda a brick in the wind.

are there any aftermarket / better pumps for this tranny, I've found clutch packs but its not slipping.