Mark Hinkley said:
The Boston tea party doen't fall in this type of group. The ELF is a phantom type group and because their actions are so terrioristic they aren't willing to STAND UP and STAY PUT and suffer the concequences of their actions
Actually Mark, this is
exactly how the poorly equipped Revolutionary Army defeated the British military- which at the time was the strongest in the world. The American forces fought a guerilla style war, attacking the ranks of red-coated British soldiers who would stand shoulder to shoulder then disappearing back into the civilian population. You guys keep crying foul at the ELF’s tactics, but this the same type of thing that brought BIG change to the world.
5-90 said:
IIRC, most of our imported oil comes from Canada (I think.)
5-90, you are correct. Saudi Arabia is #2 behind Canada.
http://www.ott.doe.gov/facts/archives/fotw246supp.shtml
Perhaps we should just annex them and nuke the Middle East!
There is no need to annex a country that is peacefully selling their oil to us. But the American public’s willingness to take oil from the bad guys has us mired in the occupying side of a guerilla war.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0411-09.htm
Scott Mac. said:
The only current viable sort term solution to our dependence on cheap foreign oil is to drill in Alaska and numerous off shore sites within' our boundries that the Liberals don't want touched.
Actually there is an extremely viable short term solution- quit driving gas-guzzlers! This is solution
every American motorist can participate in! I haven’t heard any arguments supporting why we
should be driving gas guzzlers other than “we can because we are the world’s superpower”.
It doesn’t involve any sacrifice. I still have my gas guzzling XJ, it just remains parked unless I am going to use it for what it is intended. I am not suggesting that everybody trade in their Cherokees for Subarus. Being fuel-wise does not require driving an econobox. I have a 40 mpg motorcycle that I use for a daily driver that is faster and better handling than 95% of the cars on the road.
Some of the more closed-minded participants in this debate seem to think that I am some kind of tree hugger. There is
much more at stake here than the environment.
This is taken from the U.S. Department of Energy’s website:
“Reducing the transportation sector's reliance on oil is clearly the key to improving our nation's energy security.
{snip}
In the current situation, the United States has little control over oil supply disruptions and oil price fluctuations. The necessity of maintaining a stable supply of imported oil imposes foreign policy constraints, and in times of crisis, forces the U.S. military into action.”
http://www.ott.doe.gov/biofuels/energy_security.html
You people with children should be especially concerned. We
will run out of cheap domestic sources of oil in their lifetime. How safe do you think their world will be when a nuclear-armed superpower that has an economy centered on cheap oil has to rely upon the rest of the world for it? Please note that the largest percentage of proven oil reserves is in the Middle East, an area that already breeds gruesomely effective terrorists. These terrorists are inflamed by a US foreign policy that revolves around keeping their oil available to us. They are also financed by an economy that gets a large percentage of its revenue from oil sales to the United States. I see an endless cycle here that centers on the average American citizen’s unwillingness to make a small sacrifice to help the nation’s security.
What alarms me the most is the frequent statements to the effect, "why don't we just nuke 'em!" Do you really want to open Pandora's Box? There are a lot of nukes in the hands of other countries, some of which are not friendly. If we start using them it will remove that fear of US nuclear attack from
every country that has access to them, not just the primary targets. I see a lot more at stake than one business that was destroyed, or a town that profits from producing H2's, or the environmental damage done by burning those Hummers. But then, I
have been accused of being closed minded. Who wants to enlighten me some more?
, UFWDA, U4WDA)
