Pergo flooring

[Rev Den]

Take off the tile....IF it is drywall back there and you don't destroy it you can re-apply the new tile to it. If you do trash the drywall, use some backer board (Home Depot type places have it, or a simaller product) and replace the drywall with that. Looks like a fun job....should not take more than a weekend. You should not need to caulk anywhere.....just grout.


Rev

 

[Fish'nCarz]

Take off the tile....IF it is drywall back there and you don't destroy it you can re-apply the new tile to it. If you do trash the drywall, use some backer board (Home Depot type places have it, or a simaller product) and replace the drywall with that. Looks like a fun job....should not take more than a weekend. You should not need to caulk anywhere.....just grout.


Rev

Because wood moves and tile doesn't you might want to use an appropriately colored caulk on the tile/floor interface. I agree with the rest of the above. Nice job to learn tile work on. Remember your safety glasses!

 

[riverfever]

Update:

Couldn't save the drywall so I got rid of it all. I'll probably hang the new drywall tomorrow morning and then go check out some tile. Also...you can see the dryer tubing on the left of the fireplace. It looks like the fans under the fireplace just bring in cool air from the bottom of the room and then send it out the roof. I guess it's just supposed to aid in the circulation of the hot air. Not as cool as I thought.

 

[Rev Den]

The dryer tubing is probably your fresh air intake for combustion. The fan will suck the air in at the lower vent and blow it out the top vent....if that is what you meant to say, sorry.

Rev

 

[yardape]

So you're saying that what is in front of the fireplace is Pergo or is that wood. At some point I'm going to rip up upstairs carpeting and lay down flooring because it needs replacement and I think its healthier and easier to clean. Aside from the added expense, I've wanted to do hardwood because I've always thought Pergo and like products do not look as good. What I saw in front of your fireplace was Pergo?..... or was that wood. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

And by the way I think replacing that tile with slate is going to look so much better. The tile that was there looked like it belonged in a bathroom.

 

[Fish'nCarz]

Update:

Couldn't save the drywall so I got rid of it all. I'll probably hang the new drywall tomorrow morning and then go check out some tile. Also...you can see the dryer tubing on the left of the fireplace. It looks like the fans under the fireplace just bring in cool air from the bottom of the room and then send it out the roof. I guess it's just supposed to aid in the circulation of the hot air. Not as cool as I thought.

If you can take the grill off the front of the fireplace this would be a good opportunity to vacuum the insides of the blower assy. Also you could look for the manufacturer's name and a model number, Google 'em, and call an ask them how the darn thing works.

 

[riverfever]

Nothing is coming out of the upper vent...or not much anyway. Something has to be moving though otherwise the upstairs wouldn't stink as bad when the fan is run. Fishncars is right. I'll just go a little further and do some disassembly and see if I can come up with a manufacturers name and go from there.

Yardape...The flooring is the Pergo that I'll install in the landing and wash area as well. Super easy to install and, from what I've seen, durable as hell. I will get the manufacturers name after I get going in a bit. I think this floor has been in for over 2 years now and it looks great. It's really easy to keep clean. I use a spray on wax and then hit it with a floor mop thing once a week and it really shines. It's really dirty in that pic from all the drywall dust so I'll try and get another pic that shows more of it later tonight.

 

[riverfever]

Not sure why I'm posting all this but I am. I installed drywall this morning and then we went to look at slate. A guy told me that the mortar would not stick to the drywall and I needed to use concrete backer board. So I ended up going to Depot b/c I wasn't sure if our little lumber yard up here had it. That stuff sucks. Anyway...got it home and installed. I found 12" slate at Depot for 1.79 and saw it at smaller places for as much as 13 bones. 6" at Depot was about 6 bones. I think I'm gonna go with 12" and just cut it smaller. I'll rent a wet saw. For those that have done this before...which surface should I start installing tile on?

 

[yardape]

The most important thing is to lay it out first starting with center lines from left to right so it comes out even at the edges if that makes sense. In otherwords you want to work out from the center so that if your end pieces are not 6" which they probably won't be, they will still be equal sizes. As far as the wall goes, I'd start at the bottom woriking your way up. You'll need the pieces underneath to support the ones above to keep them from sliding down while the thinset or whatever your using dries. Put spacers in between the tiles to keep them from sliding together. I'd maybe drive a screw or a nail or 2 in above the fireplace to keep those pieces of slate from sliding down while your thinset dries. Otherwise, I think you've done a nice job so far. I agree with whoever told you that the drywall would not hold the slate. Usually wall tile is much thnner than slate.

Did the pergo hold up to all of the ground in dust? Thats pretty awesome if it did.

 

[riverfever]

Looks like we'll start tiling tomorrow as long as we can find a wet saw to rent. I'm so glad to be done with the backer board. I hate drywalling but I'd rather do that any day vs. dealing with the Duroc crap. It's heavy, hard to cut and even messier. I bought 2 sheets of the Duroc and strapped them to the roof on the way home. 20 miles up into the mountains at 30mph was horrible. They kept flapping up and down so much I thought we were gonna have lift off. Turns out I only needed one. So now I gotta take one back tomorrow.

The flooring rules. The company is balterio laminate flooring. My dog goes crazy when I come home and I'll push on her chest so she goes sliding backwards on all fours across the floor and it doesn't scratch it. The dust from the drywall is nothing.

 

[wall04]

We had a dog, he liked to chew carpet

 

[yardape]

Looks like we'll start tiling tomorrow as long as we can find a wet saw to rent. I'm so glad to be done with the backer board. I hate drywalling but I'd rather do that any day vs. dealing with the Duroc crap. It's heavy, hard to cut and even messier. I bought 2 sheets of the Duroc and strapped them to the roof on the way home. 20 miles up into the mountains at 30mph was horrible. They kept flapping up and down so much I thought we were gonna have lift off. Turns out I only needed one. So now I gotta take one back tomorrow.

The flooring rules. The company is balterio laminate flooring. My dog goes crazy when I come home and I'll push on her chest so she goes sliding backwards on all fours across the floor and it doesn't scratch it. The dust from the drywall is nothing.

Like wrenching, having your own tools rules. I bought a $50 wet saw from home depot for a very large job I did. When you open my front door you have a view down a long hallway, through the kitchen, and out the back window. I tiled the whole space plus a bathroom off of that hallway using that saw and it has held up fine. I don't however have any idea how it would work with slate.

 

[riverfever]

I did a slate floor in a bathroom about 6-7 years ago but haven't ever done anything where slate goes vertically. Wow was this a PITA. I didn't know where to start so I went for the very top section above the fireplace starting with the center tile. The guy at Depot said it would stick and I had my doubts. Well it slowly slid as soon as I let go of it. The problem was that I couldn't use finishing nails b/c the PO installed tile really far into the fireplace and when I removed them it fawked up the paint and so I wanted to cover that. I would have had to nail into metal to support those 3 tiles (hence the duct tape). After that I was able to use finishing nails for support. I also couldn't figure out any other way to avoid the small sections on the sides unless I used half a tile in the center. I'll admit I did panick for a second after I had 2 tiles up and they were slipping. I thought I had bitten off more than I could chew. We ran short a few tiles so she headed down the mountain for another box. I like the way it looks. We went with tile that was already treated so I got that goin for me. I will paint the gold section of the door with high temp flat black and replace the handles later. Not sure what we'll do with grout. It'll be either black or a gray. The walls are going to be some kind of olive thing. Total project cost us right at 300. I did buy a $90 wet saw (cheapest they had) b/c rental was gonna be 35 and I figured if I use it again it'll be paid damn near paid for. I hope everything is OK with the install and I dont start having tiles pop off 3 months down the road. Thanks for all the help guys. I'll post a pic next week or so when the grout is done.

 

[Fish'nCarz]

That looks really nice! I used the same stuff on the floor in the downstairs bath and entry. Get a gallon freezer zip-lock and cut a lower corner off, put the grout in that and squeeze it into the joints. Saves a TON of work trying to clean the surface of the slate. Then use a plastic spoon or something to finish the joints. That'll look great! I'd use a dark grey grout, black really dominates, and is as hard to keep clean as white.

 

[yardape]

Nice job. Well done and I bet those center tiles above the fireplace were a pain. A couple of thoughts: while generally I like the bold look of black, black grout I think will outline each tile like a black crayola and checkerboard it. Grey might be a better choice. You want the grout to compliment the slate, not outline it. Second, I know you're done but at some point you might consider taking the slate all the way up to the wood shelf or even the ceiling. Without seeing the rest of the room its hard to picture but if the fireplace is the centerpiece of the room it could be very striking.

 

[riverfever]

Damn you Yard Ape. I have been sitting here looking at the fireplace and thinking....slate to the ceiling.

There's no way in hell I would do it. It might be cool looking but I don't think I want ot hang more of that tile vertically. I think whatever color we decide on for the entire room, we're going to go somewhere close to 2 shades lighter or darker depending just in that area where the fireplace is. Here's the best vantage point I can give you on the room.

 

[yardape]

Sorry,... it was just a thought and also depends on how long you're staying in that house. If you have been admiring your work (of which you should be proud) and thinking something is off its because that shelf is your mantel and should be connected to the fireplace either by lowering it or bringing the slate up to it. Even if you leave it alone its far better than the gay tile that was there before.

 

[riverfever]

No....I appreciate your input Ape. I've never had a fireplace so I don't know any better. The only reason I picked that line to end it at was b/c that's how it was to begin with. I think the mantel is a bit high. Not sure how I'd go about lowering it. I think I'll paint and then see how it looks.

 

[yardape]

Ape? You called me Ape? It'll be fine once you paint with a darker color. It'll eliminate the white space between the 2 and incorporate the stone with the shelf above.

The nice thing about owning your own home is that you can do whatever you want. You don't have to stick to conventions. You can create your own space that you like and admire. You don't have to please anyone but yourself.

 

[Fish'nCarz]

No....I appreciate your input Ape. I've never had a fireplace so I don't know any better. The only reason I picked that line to end it at was b/c that's how it was to begin with. I think the mantel is a bit high. Not sure how I'd go about lowering it. I think I'll paint and then see how it looks.

There's lot's of things you could do with that space. Paint, slate, embossed tile, highly figured wood, or a wildlife scene cut from plate steel with a CNC plasma cutter and artfully rusted. There really ain't no limits.

Remember to seal your grout with something good so you can clean it when you get ashes and soot on it without discoloring the grout.