Pergo flooring

riverfever

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The main floor in our house had Pergo flooring in it when we bought it. There are 2 small areas in the house that have linoleum. We have some leftover Pergo that the PO left in the garage. I want to install it. Do I have to remove the linoleum or can I go over it? I believe the Pergo is floating. Thanks.

IIRC...I can just install it over linoleum as long as it's in decent shape.

-river
 
Did they leave any of the foam that goes underneath it. Also depends on whats underneath the lino thats there. My sister did it in her kitchen, about 15x25, they pulled up the lino tiles to get to bare wood then put the liner/foam down and the floor on top of that, been in for about 6 or 7 years now, still looks good but then they have plenty of deck outside the kitchen to remove any crap that could scratch it on one side and wall to wall carpeting on the other side to also remove any stuff that could be tracked in.. water also does not seem to be an issue either. Let me know how yours works out, been thinking about it in our kitchen to replace the original lino that the builder put in there..
 
I need to go check out exactly what they left. There are 2 boxes of the flooring and 1/4 round and moulding down there. The linoleum is in great shape and I should have mentioned that the first area is maybe 4'x4' right when you walk in the door (landing). The second area is in a wash room (about the size of a bathroom).

While I'm here:
The PO had some really gawdy ceramic tile installed around the fireplace. We want to rip that out and then put in slate. Depending on the surface under the existing tile, I should be able to just put that slate on w/ minimal prep work to the surface right?

We haven't been homeowners for a year while we rented. It's nice to have our own home again so we can do repairs and make improvements.
 
riverfever said:
The PO had some really gawdy ceramic tile installed around the fireplace. We want to rip that out and then put in slate. Depending on the surface under the existing tile, I should be able to just put that slate on w/ minimal prep work to the surface right?

Are we talking slate tile or actual stone veneer? If veneer, I would consider some k-lath and/or wall ties.
 
riverfever said:
I need to go check out exactly what they left. There are 2 boxes of the flooring and 1/4 round and moulding down there. The linoleum is in great shape and I should have mentioned that the first area is maybe 4'x4' right when you walk in the door (landing). The second area is in a wash room (about the size of a bathroom).

While I'm here:
The PO had some really gawdy ceramic tile installed around the fireplace. We want to rip that out and then put in slate. Depending on the surface under the existing tile, I should be able to just put that slate on w/ minimal prep work to the surface right?

We haven't been homeowners for a year while we rented. It's nice to have our own home again so we can do repairs and make improvements.


Pergo is really easy, and there are a ton of web sites that have installation instructions. Go check out fastfloors.com.

WRT the tile. Getcha a big masonry chisel and a BFH and take the offending tile off. If you make the surface below too uneven to install your new tiles buy setting type joint compound. Get 90 minute for your first effort, and follow the instructions. The stuff will harden up rather than dry and you can make a skim coat and fill holes before you tile. It doesn't have to be pretty and it doesn't have to be dead flat. Tile will hide a multitude of sins!!

25 minute setting compound is great for small touch ups, 45 minute is good once you get the hang of it. But once its set, be it on your wall or in the bucket, it's set. I use a clean, plastic, 5 gallon paint bucket to mix it in and use a power paddle on a 1/2" drill.

Good luck!!
 
karstic said:
Are we talking slate tile or actual stone veneer? If veneer, I would consider some k-lath and/or wall ties.

Right now we think we want to do 6"X6" slate tile.
 
pergo is the bomb. I've got it in the kitchen and mud room.
The mud room saw the potty training of a puppy and came out uscathed, no stains or smells.
The only thing I've seen damage the kitchen floor is a can of soup that was dropped. It hit on edge and made a dent. I'm told you can remove the dent with some ammonia/water and some steam, but it's small and I'm not going to mess with it.
 
riverfever said:
Right now we think we want to do 6"X6" slate tile.

Home Depot has slate on sale really inexpensively from time to time. Course out where you live you'll probably have to quarry your own!

There used to be a great store in Old Colorado Springs that had tons of Mexican decorative stuff like urns and chiminea outside in a fenced in yard. They might be a good location for some nice tile at a good price. The rest of their stuff was very fairly priced.
 
I think I know exactly the place you're talking about. We'll cruise down that way and check it out. Thanks.
 
As long as the linoleum is flat and smooth, you can put the Pergo over it no problem. The Pergo may have a thin foam backing on it. If it does not, you'll need to put down either foam or the felt stuff. I used the felt stuff, it seems to help deaden sound a little more. I put the stuff down in the kitchen, and it's been great. What we bought isn't "Pergo" brand but it's the same as.

My words of wisdom as far as instillation; Like I said, I put it down in the kitchen. Well, I started on the wrong side of the room. I should have started on the wall with the cabinets. The cabinets hang over the floor, where the kick plate is. It is EXTREMELY hard to put a panel in place and snap it in place. Starting at a 45° angle and then snapping it down toward the cabinets. It's kinda hard to explain in words.
I have since helped my father-in-law do their kitchen and it went really smooth. We started on the wall with cabinets and all was well.
 
riverfever said:
Depending on the surface under the existing tile, I should be able to just put that slate on w/ minimal prep work to the surface right?


As long as you can get the old tile off and clean the old mortor away. The surface needs to be clean, flat, and sturdy. if the substrate flexes, the tile will crack.

Rev
 
Rev Den said:
As long as you can get the old tile off and clean the old mortor away. The surface needs to be clean, flat, and sturdy. if the substrate flexes, the tile will crack.

Rev

I think he's just stickin' it on the wall, not the flo'.
 
are you installing this linoleum in your jeep floors? I want to put black and white checkererd flooring down...or something trippy and pyschodelic like some acid drop tie die carpeting
 
dzolcali said:
are you installing this linoleum in your jeep floors? I want to put black and white checkererd flooring down...or something trippy and pyschodelic like some acid drop tie die carpeting


Kay..........................................what?
:D
 
We had a dog, he liked to chew carpet, specifically the carpet near the 8ft slider out on to the deck. Cut the carpet up 8x4ft, removed the presswood subfloor to get to the 3/4" under it and layed down another layer of 3/4 ply in the hole the presswood occupied and I removed. Then used 12x12 tiles to fill in the 8x4ft 'hole'... first time I ever tiled and it came out looking good and takes a good beating too.
Oh, and got rid of the dog....
 
riverfever said:
The main floor in our house had Pergo flooring in it when we bought it. There are 2 small areas in the house that have linoleum. We have some leftover Pergo that the PO left in the garage. I want to install it. Do I have to remove the linoleum or can I go over it? I believe the Pergo is floating. Thanks.

IIRC...I can just install it over linoleum as long as it's in decent shape.

-river

Here's another thing to think about - how old is the house and the linoleum?

When my folks did their kitchen over about 10 years ago, they went with a laminate flooring product (Armstrong, IIRC).

In their case, the linoleum-like product was original to the house and in the neighborhood of 30 years old (my folks don't do much remodelling - if it works, why mess with it?). It was recommended by the installers to just go over top of it, due to it being the right age for either the floor or the adhesive sticking it down (which was finally starting to bleed through) to contain asbestos. Easier to lay the new floor down over top of it and not risk disturbing something like that.

Even if your floor isn't that old, why bother trying to get it out? I'd say just go right over it - extra sound deadening that way.

Rob
 
We're thinking of tackling (or at least starting) the ceramic tile job this weekend. Here's what I'm looking at:

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I know Rev and others talked about the substrate needing to be in good shape before I install the new tile. I know the area above and on both sides of the fireplace is drywall under the existing tile. I don't know what's under the tile that makes up the "bench" in front. I suspect it's drywall as well. Although I could be surprised, I don't think there's any way in hell that tile is coming off without damaging the drywall. I'm wondering if it would be better to take out the tile and then take out the drywall and go either new drywall or the special type of backing board (can't recall the name now)? I'm sure it would just be a matter of cutting the backer board to fit closely and then installing tile, grout and then caulk. Any different ideas after seeing the area I'll be working with?

I'm hoping it wont be a huge nightmare getting whatever is under the tile out of there where it meets that Pergo flooring.
 
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