New Yukon Zip Locker

[REVROK]

The Chinese locker in the video was not a Zip. I personally am glad to see an American Company do well like Randy's/Yukon. I am also glad that this product is assembled in the USA with at least mixed parts. The machining and quality looked great in the pics on Pirate and supposedly it is made with better grade steel than even ARB, though obviously ARB has a great product. Some of the Yukon shafts have been problematic, but these lockers are not cheap imports. Also, like ARB, you know you will get great service if you have a problem, that has been Randy's hallmark since his West Coast Differential days.

All the best to Randy and his companies.

 

[Vaulter09]

Why would they test an old version of the ARB that has been improved? Apples to apples is the currently available version of both, Yukon's style just happens to be 15 years old.

 

[joe_peters]

Why would they test an old version of the ARB that has been improved? Apples to apples is the currently available version of both, Yukon's style just happens to be 15 years old.

Agreed. It was Yukon's choice to bring out old tech to compete with ARB new tech.

 

[nochance9]

Also in the video they didn't say if either one of the lockers had any brake-in time. Cause i would think a proper brake-in would make quite a bit of diference. I too am a little cautious when somebody gets to play in thier own stadium... Mot that i think that ARB rigged it, i mean they're a great company i have two ARBs myself, just i see some red flags go up when the testers are biased in any way.
just my .02 cents.

 

[RCP Phx]

Also in the video they didn't say if either one of the lockers had any brake-in time. Cause i would think a proper brake-in would make quite a bit of diference. I too am a little cautious when somebody gets to play in thier own stadium... Mot that i think that ARB rigged it, i mean they're a great company i have two ARBs myself, just i see some red flags go up when the testers are biased in any way.
just my .02 cents.

There is no "break-in" period for a selectable locker!!

 

[Begster]

Also in the video they didn't say if either one of the lockers had any brake-in time. Cause i would think a proper brake-in would make quite a bit of diference.

No.
They were testing the lockers, not ring and pinions. Lockers don't need to be broken in.

 

[Vaulter09]

Exactly. ARB's mark up is outrageous. That's all you are seeing.

Funny, cuz all I'm seeing in the video is a broken locker. Guess there IS a difference. IMO all I see is one locker that is inferiorly designed.

Good attempt, but still inferior engineering (or lack there of, since copying isnt actual engineering). New name of this thread should be RIP locker. :skull2:

 

[REVROK]

Funny, cuz all I'm seeing in the video is a broken locker. Guess there IS a difference. IMO all I see is one locker that is inferiorly designed.

Good attempt, but still inferior engineering (or lack there of, since copying isnt actual engineering). New name of this thread should be RIP locker. :skull2:

Hasta Good grief! The locker in the video is a cheap Chinese copy, not the Zip locker!

 

[trd_xj42]

This video is the zip locker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0WssPvl1Xc

 

[REVROK]

This video is the zip locker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0WssPvl1Xc

OK... thanks for the link to the new video. I really find it a bit hard to believe that much damage occurred. I believe the video with the Chinese locker... a blatant copy with inferior steel and machining, but the results with the Yukon in that video honestly make me suspicious. An American made locker, well machined and using high grade steel? Still I guess I will stick with a Detroit. I buy American whenever I can.

 

[Begster]

OK... thanks for the link to the new video. I really find it a bit hard to believe that much damage occurred. I believe the video with the Chinese locker... a blatant copy with inferior steel and machining, but the results with the Yukon in that video honestly make me suspicious. An American made locker, well machined and using high grade steel? Still I guess I will stick with a Detroit. I buy American whenever I can.

Why are you so adamant to believe that the locker in that video is some cheap Chinese locker?

 

[vegas_baja]

Out of curiosity I'd like to see an open carrier w/ a lunch box locker on that machine.
It would show you how much stronger any full case carrier is over a stock carrier.
It might convince a few people that a zip locker is strong enough to run in a dana 30 with 33's or even 35's.
After watching that video again, it looks like the cross shaft broke first and then took the case out with it.
I dont think I've ever heard of someone destroying a hardened cross shaft on the trail.

I wheeled with a guy at the recent hump n bump here in vegas that was testing one of these in his jeep.
He's been running it really hard for a few months now and hasn't had a single problem.

 

[waynehartwig]

Out of curiosity I'd like to see an open carrier w/ a lunch box locker on that machine.
It would show you how much stronger any full case carrier is over a stock carrier.
It might convince a few people that a zip locker is strong enough to run in a dana 30 with 33's or even 35's.
After watching that video again, it looks like the cross shaft broke first and then took the case out with it.
I dont think I've ever heard of someone destroying a hardened cross shaft on the trail.

I wheeled with a guy at the recent hump n bump here in vegas that was testing one of these in his jeep.
He's been running it really hard for a few months now and hasn't had a single problem.

I agree completely and think with a stronger cross pin it would have held up a lot better. I could be wrong, but I believe the cross pin they use is just a standard cross pin. Not even alloy or zytanium.

 

[kastein]

According to some cursory googling I did, the "zytanium" shafts sold by powertrax are simply hardened steel - high grade steel that has been surface/case hardened. They will last longer of course, but are not some crazy unobtainium alloy.

 

[waynehartwig]

According to some cursory googling I did, the "zytanium" shafts sold by powertrax are simply hardened steel - high grade steel that has been surface/case hardened. They will last longer of course, but are not some crazy unobtainium alloy.

Right, kind of... I believe it to be carburized 9310 steel. Which is highly hardened, low carbon (.10%) steel. They use it for high contact stress, shock and impact loading. So yeah, it's not rare, but it's very strong stuff and perfect for cross pins. The new Spartan locker is made of 9310 as well.

 

[foxwar71]

I dont think I've ever heard of someone destroying a hardened cross shaft on the trail.

ive heard of it with my buddy's with 35's 4.10's and a locrite, did the typical 3 piece break and such.

 

[REVROK]

Why are you so adamant to believe that the locker in that video is some cheap Chinese locker?

I am not... there are two videos. I accept the last post as the zip locker. It is a test fully controlled by ARB. It just seems odd to me that that kind of destruction occurred with an American made locker with quality steel and machining. Yet, ARB has always been a solid and reputable company. As I said, I guess I'll keep buying the Detroit. It looks like I missed a bit of dialog even though I thought I was following the thread. That was when the new video was first posted. Apologies to anyone that got frustrated because of that.

 

[waynehartwig]

I am not... there are two videos. I accept the last post as the zip locker. It is a test fully controlled by ARB. It just seems odd to me that that kind of destruction occurred with an American made locker with quality steel and machining. Yet, ARB has always been a solid and reputable company. As I said, I guess I'll keep buying the Detroit. It looks like I missed a bit of dialog even though I thought I was following the thread. That was when the new video was first posted. Apologies to anyone that got frustrated because of that.

Just to keep everything straight - the Yukon Zip Locker is not made in the USA. It's assembled in the USA with US and foriegn parts. Just sayin' is all.

But here's the deal. Yukon has it's own quality control now. I don't care where a part is made, if it's made to the engineers specs, it's correct. Yukon does uphold them as well. ARB has really evolved over the 25 years or so they have been making lockers. Yukon just made one last year. Don't you think that with feedback they will improve as well? I know for a fact they continue improving on their current line. Why wouldn't they on this? I'm sure their engineers are scrambling to fix the weaknesses. I know they have on their shafts. There has been a lot of changes with Randy's and Yukon over the past 16 months - improving their entire line and adding parts. I'd say stay tuned for greater things and stronger and better air actuated lockers.

 

[REVROK]

Just to keep everything straight - the Yukon Zip Locker is not made in the USA. It's assembled in the USA with US and foriegn parts. Just sayin' is all.

But here's the deal. Yukon has it's own quality control now. I don't care where a part is made, if it's made to the engineers specs, it's correct. Yukon does uphold them as well. ARB has really evolved over the 25 years or so they have been making lockers. Yukon just made one last year. Don't you think that with feedback they will improve as well? I know for a fact they continue improving on their current line. Why wouldn't they on this? I'm sure their engineers are scrambling to fix the weaknesses. I know they have on their shafts. There has been a lot of changes with Randy's and Yukon over the past 16 months - improving their entire line and adding parts. I'd say stay tuned for greater things and stronger and better air actuated lockers.

Y'know a Ford is still American made even though many parts are from overseas because it is assembled here and many not all parts are USA made. Yukon could have just said that it was Made in USA and no one would have been the wiser. Honest company... I agree overall... Randy has a head for business that never ceases to amaze me. I still hesitate to spend that kind of money after seeing the video. I will wait awhile.

 

[ECKSJAY]

Randy has a head for business that never ceases to amaze me.

lol