Negatives to a spool

[Roxtar]

I'm rebuilding my 8.8 with alloys and 5.13 gears.
It's already heavily trussed and I'm running 35" Creepy Crawlers.
I'm considering going from a Detroit to a spool.
It's a trail rig, DD limited to big snow days when the G-Force tires on the Mark VIII are worthless.
Any reasons to change my mind?

 

[sawhead]

with spools in the snow how do you plan on turning very well,wouldn't that be a little trickier???

other than the obvious possibility of snapping an axle....monster amounts of traction

i know these obvious,but the only ones i can think of

 

[BRIANHO13]

As long as you have good shafts, they only negative I can think of would be tire wear on pavement.

I am spooling my 9".

 

[Haggar]

I know plenty in my club that run them. A friend is running a spool in his rear Dana 44, 2001 XJ on 38x12.5 Swamper SXs, and it does fine on the pavement.


It will defiantely fish tail you on snow, but so will a locker, and a locker has the unlocking effects in snow which can cause a spin out when one side unloads and doesn't have traction.

The Spool will always be predictable.


Heh, yeah, GeForces suck in the snow. My SRT-4 on 1/2" of snow was worthless...

 

[xj4life]

where are you getting the shafts from? Dutchman?

 

[XJ_ranger]

maybe this is good - maybe you can get some super beef 35 spline shafts or something...

hmmm

 

[Lawn Cher']

Now, keep in mind Brad that I am MMWMCC, but I think the simplicity, predictability and price of a spool makes it more desirable for a dedicated trail rig. I have them in both of my as of yet non-wheeled trail rigs. I did however like my No-Slip when my XJ was a DD.

 

[Roxtar]

where are you getting the shafts from? Dutchman?

Yukons

 

[Roxtar]

Now, keep in mind Brad that I am MMWMCC, but I think the simplicity, predictability and price of a spool makes it more desirable for a dedicated trail rig. I have them in both of my as of yet non-wheeled trail rigs. I did however like my No-Slip when my XJ was a DD.

I love my Detroit.
To me this is simply a way to raise a little cash to help defray the cost of rebuilding both axles.

 

[IntrepidXJ]

I love my Detroit.
To me this is simply a way to raise a little cash to help defray the cost of rebuilding both axles.

i was wondering why you would get rid of a perfectly good detroit for a spool

i would personally stick with the detroit.....but i like a decent turning radius

 

[David Taylor]

I went to a spool in the new axle from a Detroit. I can't tell the deference driving on the trail. Where I really notice it is shifting from drive to reverse. With deep gears my Detroit had about half a drive shaft slack before it hooked up. None of that with the spool.On the street is a whole different story. It's a trail only rig but I do move it around the parking lot at work. You should see the amount of rubber left on the concrete from my creepy's. But, I would still get a spool in the back again. I know it's not going to brake ever.

 

[Goatman]

I love my Detroit.
To me this is simply a way to raise a little cash to help defray the cost of rebuilding both axles.

Are you going to clear enough cash between selling a used Detroit and buying a spool to make it worth it? Especially if you drive in snow occasionally? What else are you doing to the axle?

 

[Roxtar]

Are you going to clear enough cash between selling a used Detroit and buying a spool to make it worth it? Especially if you drive in snow occasionally? What else are you doing to the axle?

I thought so based on finding spools for $100-$125 a year ago.
Actually, as I called around for pricing it became a moot point.
Not only have prices doubled but I just realized I can't run a spool with C-clip axles. :doh:

IOW


Nevermind.

 

[BRIANHO13]

find a 9"
leave your front fullwidth
put in a mini spool for $20.

 

[Roxtar]

find a 9"
leave your front fullwidth
put in a mini spool for $20.

Or...


Run the Detroit.

 

[seanR]

I am glad that the good citzens of have helped you out with your delimma.
That is what we are here for!

Next question.....

 

[ROBZ95Xj]

Not only have prices doubled but I just realized I can't run a spool with C-clip axles. :doh:
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not true, ipkyss is running a spool in his 8.8, i dont where he got his from but if ya shoot him a PM im sure he'd tell ya.

 

[BRIANHO13]

We are all forgeting about the lincoln spool.

 

[Jeffro600]

The Spool will always be predictable.

Ditto...as the springs/pins and other parts wear out inside of a locker, they start to be more and more unpredictable in their locking/unlocking characteristics. Not to mention, the different handling between when your on and off the gas. Less moving parts and a much less complicated theroy makes it more reliable and easier to do trail repairs if need-be.

The only real downside of a spool i can see is increaced tire wear...but then, i wouldnt recommend running one on a DD. My rear is spooled and while tire wear increace is noticable, its not enough to mandate a locker for me as my XJ will be lucky to see 5000 miles in a year(mostly to and from trail time)

 

[Rev Den]

You know....if you get into an accident and they investigate and find you have a spool, your insurance co. can refuse to pay and you can be held liable.

Just like no front swaybar.




Rev