Nancy Pelosi won't allow the House to vote on new offshore drilling

Ray H said:
Im not sure I want a nuclear reactor sitting on every other street corner. Scratch that, Im positive I dont.

It wouldn't take much to make a microreactor physically safe. So what's the worry? I wouldn't have a problem living next to one.

If we all have the nimby(not in my backyard) attitude, then how is any of this going to change. The environmentalist leftist liberals(the minority) don't want solar farms, new nuclear powerplants, or any number of things that could be harmful to the 'environment', and the majority of Americans have been duped into temporary solutions like drilling in the North Slope.

So what would you suggest to start fixing the current mess we're in?
 
Yea, I've slept for several years with a few dozen feet, my first sub my bunk was middle level missile, second to last bunk on the port side which put me 8 feet away from the mirv warheads and 25 feet from the outer bulkhead of the reactor compartment. My dosimeter readings after 3 months were about -0- vs the one day I forgot to take it out of my pocket and went to the beach, I about gave the doc a heart attack when he stuck it in the reader and he in turn almost gave me a new asshole after I mentioned 'I forgot'....
 
I think they are perfectly safe....UNTIL someone decides they want to blow one up. Then having it in your backyard isnt such a great thing. With any luck, maybe they will just steal a bunch of them to make a bigger boom.

My problem with it isnt the safety of the reactor itself, its with the security of the reactor. How do we provide adequate security for several thousand nuclear reactors around the country? How do we logistically keep track of nuclear fuel and waste for thousands upon thousands of reactors? I have no problem with building nuclear powerplants, I do see a couple problems with having lots of little ones all around.
 
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....which is why we need border fences and to quit letting every foreign asshole who thinks they deserve to be here in the country....

Again...if we didn't spend so much GD money on OTHER countries, we could take care of ourselves.

#1 on my wish list is billing the f*cking Iraqis for our "war budget". We're over here rebuilding their shit, rebuilding their oil infrastructure, on the taxpayers' dime, and the Iraqis are keeping all the profits.

THAT IS BULLSHIT!
 
JNickel101 said:
....which is why we need border fences and to quit letting every foreign asshole who thinks they deserve to be here in the country....

Again...if we didn't spend so much GD money on OTHER countries, we could take care of ourselves.

#1 on my wish list is billing the f*cking Iraqis for our "war budget". We're over here rebuilding their shit, rebuilding their oil infrastructure, on the taxpayers' dime, and the Iraqis are keeping all the profits.

THAT IS BULLSHIT!

I agree. Im tired of giving away what we have for nothing in return. I think we should take their dam country from them. Iraq would be a U.S. territory and we would control the oil fields. We wouldnt have to wait for new oil fields to get on line, instant oil supply for us.
 
It tempts me to claim all of my taxes as a "charitable donation" the next year, since that seems to be what it's used for....
 
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To me, any moratorium on drilling for new reserves of petroleum is about as mindnumbingly lame as was diverting military resources from Afghanistan to Iraq in 2003. The Don't Drill Democrats don't know sheeat about energy. Pelosi thinks resources identified by the risky and expensive exploration efforts of private oil companies belong to the public. They seem to think they are more qualified than professional petroleum geologists to decide where to drill.

Rachel What's/her/name (Keith Olberman's fill in) cited a report on Countdown that indicated new discoveries would only bring down the price at the pump a few cents a couple decades from now, the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. I don't think she has any concept of how oil is discovered or recovered. How do you put a figure on the impact of new discoveries without knowing how large they will be or how costly they will be to extract and refine?

We have urgent energy needs that must be addressed. We have short term issues, intermediate needs, and long term goals to address. It may be true that some resources won't hit the market for decades, but why not make them available to our grandchildren? While I personally think human activities have and are probably impacting climate change, I think in our current energy/economic situation, you take nothing off the table. Wind/solar etc are a long whay from being major players. It hasn't been that long since catalytic converters have been put into use. Its certainly conceivable that the technology could be developed to scrub greenhouse emissions too, and maybe even use then as a energy source.

Now anyone that knows me knows I am hardly a staunch conservative. But if these dems don't wise up I may never vote for another one.
 
I agree that we need to move towards new/different sources to power our country. But in the meantime, we might as well be drilling for oil offshore of our country. The Chinese are drilling 50 miles off of Key West. Why shouldn't we be there recovering that oil. Forget about international waters. That shit is more ours that China's. Why should we let everyone else come to 50, 100, 200 miles offshore of our nation, and drill? Would you feel better about Chinese run operations and equipment and their protections against spilling, or do you trust US run drilling operations to operate more safely, efficiently, and with more regard for the environment? Even if we didn't benefit directly, I'd rather have a cleaner safer well than the chinese could provide.
 
NCCherokee said:
I agree that we need to move towards new/different sources to power our country. But in the meantime, we might as well be drilling for oil offshore of our country. The Chinese are drilling 50 miles off of Key West. Why shouldn't we be there recovering that oil. Forget about international waters. That shit is more ours that China's. Why should we let everyone else come to 50, 100, 200 miles offshore of our nation, and drill? Would you feel better about Chinese run operations and equipment and their protections against spilling, or do you trust US run drilling operations to operate more safely, efficiently, and with more regard for the environment? Even if we didn't benefit directly, I'd rather have a cleaner safer well than the chinese could provide.

And who is to say there are only drilling rigs on those platforms.
 
fscrig75 said:
Its pretty easy to understand why Senate, House and President, are fighting each other on this. Trying to make the other look bad. If they open up offshore drilling and prices get somewhere back to normal, then McCain was right and Obama was wrong. Remember its election time, nothing is going to get passed till next year. Yea it will take 10 years to actually use that oil, but what do you think is driving up oil prices, speculation about the supply in the future. It has nothing to do with todays supply
Either way we do need to start looking hard at alternatives but no using what we have is just plain stupid.

This suck's, but you are right, whether or not it will help the true demand,is yet to be seen, My bet would be if you opened drilling in Alaska and offshore you would see $100 oil again, just from the bullshit speculators!
 
FordGuy said:
This suck's, but you are right, whether or not it will help the true demand,is yet to be seen, My bet would be if you opened drilling in Alaska and offshore you would see $100 oil again, just from the bullshit speculators!

You would see even a bigger drop if they announced that all coal to gas plants were cleared to produce gas, diesel and kerosene in addition to LPG and that would not even involve driving a drill bit thru any caribou heads either :D :D :D
 
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