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Nothings ever easy or perfect in life. Where's Yan? Is it past his bedtime?
Morimoto projector headlight conversion
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Oh come on lose the attitude. How you take someone's opinion is totally up to you. While some may come off harsh, a lot of guys on this forum do have some serious credibility. UrbanYan has been dabbling in HID tech and retros for years. So has Talyn. So have I. So rest assured, while you may not agree with some of what is said (again, everyone has opinions), no one is talking out of their @ss.
I'd love to see this retro follow through to completion. You're thinking outside of the box, and going against the grain. Both can lead to great things. My personal fear, is that you'll finish the retro and the projectors will either fail in one way or another (peeling reflective bowls, failed solenoids, friction between the plungers etc), or you'll finish and the output will be total garbage. Time will tell.
I'd love to see this retro follow through to completion. You're thinking outside of the box, and going against the grain. Both can lead to great things. My personal fear, is that you'll finish the retro and the projectors will either fail in one way or another (peeling reflective bowls, failed solenoids, friction between the plungers etc), or you'll finish and the output will be total garbage. Time will tell.
Please elaborate on which ideas are bothersome to you. I do rather enjoy reading your comments.
Yeah. I don't follow the crowd too well. Lol. Going against the grain and standing out is kinda my style.
I will install the projectors soon [hoping to install them tomorrow]. I will definitely give a long-term update on these projectors. [for which I have high hopes].
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That's cool, love you man.
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Maybe mine are special.
I'm telling you, they're at least as instantaneous as halogens. To be honest, it reminds me of an LED light. Certainly nothing to worry about anyways.
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About the Fogs...
"The lenses are as fragile as - well - glass."
Isn't there a stick on protective film to make them a bit more durable, less chip prone? Even with the poor optics, as long as they throw out a short wide/broad bit of light they will contribute to close lighting. Probably one of those 'good' ideas that won't pan out, but no fun without trying.
Everyone's comments are taken with well respect. The collective knowledge is incredible and pushing the edge is all the fun. Thinking outside the box.
Thanks for everyone's contribution.
"The lenses are as fragile as - well - glass."
Isn't there a stick on protective film to make them a bit more durable, less chip prone? Even with the poor optics, as long as they throw out a short wide/broad bit of light they will contribute to close lighting. Probably one of those 'good' ideas that won't pan out, but no fun without trying.
Everyone's comments are taken with well respect. The collective knowledge is incredible and pushing the edge is all the fun. Thinking outside the box.
Thanks for everyone's contribution.
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That sums up all my hopes and fears as well.
I only have two thoughts with regards to these types of projects:
1 - Form should follow Function.
2 - Think with your head, not your wallet.
Ben824 and mmag1982 did their retros the right way. sbxj get's it right every single time (best work I've seen to date on an XJ). The rest of this thread.... hmmmm.... I'm sure you're nice guys, so I'll give you sparkly star stickers for effort.
I am thinking with my head. Most of the time. :gee:
As for the form and function thing.... Does this have something to do with your dislike for angel eyes?
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"Ben824 and mmag1982 did their retros the right way."
Wait a minute, no disrespect but it is their cut up nonsealed housings, cutting the header panel, high expense, and your expensive superior optics bugeye lights that made me want to try it a different way. Yes they are pioneers and I appreciate all their work but with their attempts I have tried to take it a little different route with similiar or better results, mostly sealed, plug and play, less expensive.
Wait a minute, no disrespect but it is their cut up nonsealed housings, cutting the header panel, high expense, and your expensive superior optics bugeye lights that made me want to try it a different way. Yes they are pioneers and I appreciate all their work but with their attempts I have tried to take it a little different route with similiar or better results, mostly sealed, plug and play, less expensive.
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not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I'd like to add that angel eyes are f'ing stupid. i can see if it's a euro spec thing where you need a city light and not a headlight like the BMWs are spec'd for, but just throwing an angel eye setup in there makes you look like a huge tool. it's like the german version of a weeaboo.
My bug eyes were the ONLY projector option back in 2005, bi-xenons were relatively new, oem parts were hard to come-by and pricey, and the retrofit source didn't offer FX replica projectors on-the-cheap.
I would follow sbxj's route if I had to do things today - great output, great value, reliable set-up.
Good thing my other car is a German made BMW toolmobile. I really like Angel Eyes, but that must be my Euro influenced preference. No offense taken or meant.
Out of curiosity and against my better judgement... What's a weeaboo?!?
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You're right, in 2005 you were cutting edge, leading technology. You were the 'top gun' but today there are some other options.
I had to look up sbxj's work.
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoBiXenonProjectors.htm
Same thing, I just don't like the cut up, hack up way. If it doesn't fit, just use a bigger hammer or dremel.
I'm not just trying to put HID projectors in a XJ. That has been done by you and many others. I am Trying to do it within the confines of the standard housing.
I had to look up sbxj's work.
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoBiXenonProjectors.htm
Same thing, I just don't like the cut up, hack up way. If it doesn't fit, just use a bigger hammer or dremel.
I'm not just trying to put HID projectors in a XJ. That has been done by you and many others. I am Trying to do it within the confines of the standard housing.
And by that token, I embrace technology and I'm planning on adding many more innovations [you call them "electrical nightmares", but tomato tomahto] to my Jeep.
While Jeeps are not bimmers, iirc the GenII Cherokee was made when DaimlerChrysler [aka Mercedes] owned Jeep, so Angel Eyes are not much of a stretch [going by the logic that Mercedes is German as is BMW].
The devil eyes, however, are more because I wanted to see how much hate they would churn up. [troll eyes. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!]
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Those are some big work for someone with quad HID fogs in the bumper. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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And a double-DIN head unit and extra speakers.
I do like the suede headliner though. I might steal that idea in the future since my headliner is... well... it's like memory foam.
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