Morimoto projector headlight conversion

[CobraMarty]

And for our Wrangler brothers, 7" HID Projector Headlight

 

[CobraMarty]

Here is the backside, No cutout, fits with stock header panel. No cutting or mods.

 

[urban yan]

I'm not hammering a circle into a square opening.

 

[CobraMarty]

And for our Wrangler brothers, 7" HID Projector Headlight

Because they can't hammer a square into a round hole.

 

[urban yan]

I read that, but this is an XJ forum.

 

[CobraMarty]

OMG really? It is a thread about projector headlights.

 

[DanMan2k06]

Still waiting for some output shots of those eBay gems.

 

[O-Gauge Steamer]

Ah yes, the ever inappropriate Mr. Yan. Never fails to disappoint. Missed the point entirely...

I am on the fence for headlights. The LEDs look good from here and bolt right in. But, where is the fun in just bolting in parts without having the enjoyment of cutting up the Heep to force the new parts fit...

We, all of us, would like our rigs to be different from the one next to it. It is this drive to be unique that fuels the entire aftermarket industry. It is a testament to the ingenuity of the members here that do their own work. And, in the pursuit of an idea, taking information from any source is the way to go.

Even if the headlight displayed is round. It is the concept that matters.

IMO, there is a market for an entrepreneur who can develop and market a replacement 200mm housing for projectors. Personally, I would like to see dual projectors in the housings. Just abandon the entire reflector as it is not actually needed any longer is it... I just have an issue with the movable filament method of getting a low/high beam unit.

 

[hubs97xj]

The purse-fighting is petty, and annoying. Please, give it a rest.

 

[CobraMarty]

Oh no, dual projectors?! My work will never stop. They just might fit, If I....

That movable filament method is rubbish and even the flip down gate thingy isn't much better.

 

[CobraMarty]

Like this:

 

[O-Gauge Steamer]

Exactly, both a dedicated low and high beam. I did some research a couple of years back and as I no longer have access to a mill, declined to pursue this.

Use the mill to make the mold for a vacuformed housing. Not too difficult when you have a mill to work with... I was thinking a flat mounting surface for the projectors themselves. Only down side I see is aiming. You would be able to aim either the lows or the highs with them on a common surface. I suppose the cover could be removable for aiming purposes. I also saw the cover being attached directly to the headlight door (gasketed), not the housing.

Modify the stock headlight seat to clear the new housings. It can be done. Wiring would be the easy mod with a new loom to include all 4 ballasts and the relays needed. Just plug the new loom into the existing stock loom. Here is a link to a site that has quality connectors: http://store.candlepower.com/cesohb90be.html

BTW Marty, I like the look of two different diameter projectors...

 

[urban yan]

Ah yes, the ever inappropriate Mr. Yan. Never fails to disappoint. Missed the point entirely...

Light output begins to suffer once a projector get's too small (my 350z single beam projectors were proof of that). Also going with projectors where they put needless effort into angel eyes generally guarantees they cut corners on the projectors itself.

6054 housings are small. Go with bi-xenons (oem or the retrofit source); they're cheap these days. There's no excuse to hack some cheap headlights so you can repurpose their crappy projectors.

ok... you can go back to being an _ss now. thanks.

 

[Talyn]

Like this:

How would that work, considering HID needs a warm up time? I can understand leaving the lows on with the highs (not good in pratice), but a high HID will require a warm up period. Unless you intend to do a halogen high. OEMs have either a solenoid or flap to change between high and lows w/o turning the bulb off or have a halogen high.

 

[urban yan]

Exactly, you can't switch between high and low beams -on the fly - in this setup.

Every time you activate your high beams they would require time to ignite and warm-up; you would have to use halogens in your high beam projectors to compliment your HID low beams (which is similar to the old silverstar x6054 kits - minus the projectors that is).

This is a terrible idea, and this is why we have bi-xenons. The HID bulbs are always ignited; the headlights contain an actuator that moves a flap that changes your beam pattern from low to high beam.

 

[DanMan2k06]

This is why you will find no, I repeat, NO oem manufacturer with a standalone hid highbeam. When you need it, it takes too long to warm up.

 

[CobraMarty]

Exactly, you can't switch between high and low beams -on the fly - in this setup.

Every time you activate your high beams they would require time to ignite and warm-up; you would have to use halogens in your high beam projectors to compliment your HID low beams (which is similar to the old silverstar x6054 kits - minus the projectors that is).

This is a terrible idea, and this is why we have bi-xenons. The HID bulbs are always ignited; the headlights contain an actuator that moves a flap that changes your beam pattern from low to high beam.

Why do you talk about what you don't know. You have no clue/idea how these work. Please stop your BS. You can stop bad mouthing a product/idea which you have no clue about. Everyone here has been pretty tolerant of your BS. Take it elsewhere.

These projectors do have the actuator and the flap which drops down to provide the highs. So they would work fine and have instant high beam. you could have all 4 low beams and instant 2 or 4 highs. So as far as leaving the lows on with the highs, the lows would be on anyways and just the flap uncovers some of the beam.

Thanks for your interest and comments.

 

[bpas328xi]

Exactly, you can't switch between high and low beams -on the fly - in this setup.

Every time you activate your high beams they would require time to ignite and warm-up; you would have to use halogens in your high beam projectors to compliment your HID low beams (which is similar to the old silverstar x6054 kits - minus the projectors that is).

This is a terrible idea, and this is why we have bi-xenons. The HID bulbs are always ignited; the headlights contain an actuator that moves a flap that changes your beam pattern from low to high beam.

As CobraMarty said, the projectors that we are using are proper HID projectors. They have the flap for high and low beam and ANGEL EYES. Once they are turned on [low beam] and warmed up, high beam is INSTANT. Basically, these projectors are very similar to the ones that BMW uses [little bit smaller than the BMW ones, but still].

No BS bi-xenon junk here (where the bulb moves). [been there done that and hate them with a passion] or xenon-halogen junk either.

 

[urban yan]

They're still awfully small.

I'd say my Hella Micro DEs are as small as you can go with HIDs, and they're certainly nowhere as good as my main projectors.... AND I'd like to see some one try to cram 2 of those into a 6054 housing.

 

[bpas328xi]

They're still awfully small.

They'll be fine. It is pretty much impossible to fit bigger projectors in without cutting the housing and header panel or going for the bug-eye look. I'm trying to keep these plug-and-play friendly.