Moab closing...

[Stang5lgt]

Has anyone seen this...

We have been warning you and thousands of others that this day would come. On October 1, 2009 a congressional committee will consider a wilderness bill that would turn 9.4 million acres of Utah public land into congressionally designated wilderness. This is a major step towards the closing of nearly 40% of all the land that BLM manages in Utah. This may seem surreal but it is actually happening. We must stop this bill. With your help we can do it. Please read this email in entirety, forward it to friends, and act on its call for help. With enough of you getting involved we guarantee we can either stop this bill or minimize the damage that it will cause.

Please click here to send a message to your congressman:

American Motorcyclist Association - Congress to hold hearing on closing 9 million acres in Utah

The bill in its entirety:

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

If you would like to read the propaganda from our opposition and the main proponents of the bill go here www.suwa.org. Be sure to take some anti-nausea medication these guys spin things pretty hard.

Sincerely,
Michael Swenson
Utah Shared Access Alliance

 

[mcantar18c]

Funny how not one of the supporting reps are from Utah

 

[DutchVDub]

It's actually fairly typical. A lot of the movement to close trail systems and "preserve" natural habitat comes from outside the states involved. Same thing happens here in Colorado. It's why I personally am a fan of stronger state govt and a major reason why I joined the Colorado army natinal guard, instead of the reserves or active duty. I'm still army and have been and can still be called up for federal service, but I'm state govt first. That's why I went to louisiana after Katrina, performed security for the dnc, and have done blizzard, tornado, and forest fire missions.

Back on topic though, we really need to try and prevent this bill. At the very least support the associations that help fight to protect our wheeling trails. It's also why we need to stay on the trails and clean up after ourselves when we wheel. Don't go wheeling with major leaks and if you spill oil make sure you dig up the dirt and take it with you. The better we take care of our trails the less fuel is out there for the people trying to close them

 

[XJNOOB93]

Now why the hell would they go and do that??? Just plain stupid.

 

[ausi02]

I emailed our rep if that makes any difference. I would be surprised if any of our (Colorado) reps were for the bill. Anything done in Utah will set precedents for what happens here in Colorado...

 

[Stang5lgt]

I emailed our rep if that makes any difference. I would be surprised if any of our (Colorado) reps were for the bill. Anything done in Utah will set precedents for what happens here in Colorado...

Mark Udall and Diana Degette both sponsor the bill.

 

[ColoradoRaptor]

Now why the hell would they go and do that??? Just plain stupid.

Stupid.... YES!! Sadly there are those out there that could care less about us and our hobby who will do everything they can to shut us down!! Shutting down Moab would be like shutting down Yellowstone NP!! Utah would stand to loose alot of tourist dollars if that actually goes through!! It is time to write/e-mail our reps as well as Utah reps to let them know this would be a tragedy!!

 

[ColoradoRaptor]

Mark Udall and Diana Degette both sponsor the bill.

Well then let us write them and let them know if they support this bill then they will not have our support!!

 

[YELLAHEEP]

Done. Sen. Mike Coffman has received an e-mail from me asking he oppose the bill........ :thumbup:

 

[jdxj]

Rep doug Lambourn has received a letter from me and several friends as well.
Thanks for the info!!!

 

[Stang5lgt]

So I am working in Morrison on a stucco job. And the home owner works with natural gas companies to develop new wells. He said this bill has been introduced every year for the last 20 years. He said the bill won't pass but it keeps getting introduced to keep the greenies happy. He said the greenie orgs do this to keep the money flowing in. Cause if they actually get the land turned into preserves no more money from donors. So it all boils down to getting money.

He also said that our old buddy Ken Salazar ( Bamster interior sectary) stopped all permits for new oil and gas wells. And not one permit has been issued since the beginning of the year. The permit fees over 100 million dollars have not been returned to the people trying to get the permits. And the people trying to get the permits are small businesses people who are taking 2nd mortgage on there houses. Totally screwed by special interests. Got love the clowns we have running the show around here.

 

[Fred]

Now why the hell would they go and do that??? Just plain stupid.

They are liberals.

Fred

 

[hookedonxjs]

We are being corraled into the metropolis like heffers to the slaughter.There will be no escape once they implant the chip!

 

[obcutter]

This is only the begining..... This is why, we as americans have to push for term limits for our elected officials, and keep the "Statist's" out of Washington and our life........ :hang:

 

[XJNOOB93]

They are liberals.

Fred

I'm a liberal... I don't think that has anything to do with it. I believe shutting it down, like Raptor said, would make Utah lose A LOT of tourist dollars.. I mean who wants to go to Utah OTHER than Moab...:twak:

 

[Stang5lgt]

I'm a liberal... I don't think that has anything to do with it. I believe shutting it down, like Raptor said, would make Utah lose A LOT of tourist dollars.. I mean who wants to go to Utah OTHER than Moab...:twak:

Maybe for these reasons...
Zion
Bryce Canyon
Arches
Canyonlands
Capitol Reef
Grand Circle
Mesa Verde National Park
Grand Canyon

And yes my friend it is your liberal buddies doing this. All the sponsors are Dems. They are ones who are almost always in bed with the greenies. We still like ya. You are young and once you realize your full potential you will realize that you don't need Gov to fix everything. Like JFK said...

"Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."atriot:

 

[YELLAHEEP]

Like JFK said...

"Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."atriot:

......... Who, ironically, was a Democrat. :looney:

 

[ColoradoRaptor]

Maybe for these reasons...
Zion
Bryce Canyon
Arches
Canyonlands
Capitol Reef
Grand Circle
Mesa Verde National Park
Grand Canyon

And yes my friend it is your liberal buddies doing this. All the sponsors are Dems. They are ones who are almost always in bed with the greenies. We still like ya. You are young and once you realize your full potential you will realize that you don't need Gov to fix everything. Like JFK said...

"Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."atriot:

Mesa Verde is mostly in Colorado! Grand Canyon is mostly in Arizona!! I do believe some of those others are effected by the land closure. There are other reasons as well to visit Utah BUT Moab is huge there!! I lived there years ago in a small town called Heber City and worked as a stone mason in Park City. If for some reason Moab and surrounding lands get closed to motor traffic, it is going to be very bad for Utah!!

 

[Only in a XJ]

I'm a liberal... I don't think that has anything to do with it.

This bill was created by a Liberal-Democrat and sponsored by 155 Liberal-Democrats and 5 Liberal-Republicans

If you didn't know already here's the list of sponsors and supporters:


Sponsor:

Rep. Maurice Hinchey [D-NY22]

Cosponsors: (160: 155 Dem / 5 Rep)

André Carson {D-IN}
Donna Christensen [D-VI]
Eleanor Norton [D-DC]
Gary Ackerman [D-NY5]
Thomas Allen [D-ME1]
Robert Andrews [D-NJ1]
Brian Baird [D-WA3]
Tammy Baldwin [D-WI2]
John Barrow [D-GA12]
Xavier Becerra [D-CA31]
Shelley Berkley [D-NV1]
Howard Berman [D-CA28]
Judy Biggert [R-IL13]
Timothy Bishop [D-NY1]
Earl Blumenauer [D-OR3]
Leonard Boswell [D-IA3]
Robert Brady [D-PA1]
Bruce Braley [D-IA1]
Corrine Brown [D-FL3]
Lois Capps [D-CA23]
Michael Capuano [D-MA8]
Julia Carson [D-IN7]
Ben Chandler [D-KY6]
William Clay [D-MO1]
Emanuel Cleaver [D-MO5]
Steve Cohen [D-TN9]
John Conyers [D-MI14]
Jerry Costello [D-IL12]
Joe Courtney [D-CT2]
Joseph Crowley [D-NY7]
Elijah Cummings [D-MD7]
Danny Davis [D-IL7]
Susan Davis [D-CA53]
Peter DeFazio [D-OR4]
Diana DeGette [D-CO1]
William Delahunt [D-MA10]
Rosa DeLauro [D-CT3]
Norman Dicks [D-WA6]
Lloyd Doggett [D-TX25]
Michael Doyle [D-PA14]
Keith Ellison [D-MN5]
Rahm Emanuel [D-IL5]
Eliot Engel [D-NY17]
Anna Eshoo [D-CA14]
Sam Farr [D-CA17]
Bob Filner [D-CA51]
Barney Frank [D-MA4]
Charles Gonzalez [D-TX20]
Al Green [D-TX9]
Raymond Green [D-TX29]
Raul Grijalva [D-AZ7]
Luis Gutiérrez [D-IL4]
John Hall [D-NY19]
Phil Hare [D-IL17]
Jane Harman [D-CA36]
Alcee Hastings [D-FL23]
Brian Higgins [D-NY27]
Baron Hill [D-IN9]
Mazie Hirono [D-HI2]
Paul Hodes [D-NH2]
Rush Holt [D-NJ12]
Michael Honda [D-CA15]
Darlene Hooley [D-OR5]
Jay Inslee [D-WA1]
Steve Israel [D-NY2]
Jesse Jackson [D-IL2]
Sheila Jackson-Lee [D-TX18]
William Jefferson [D-LA2]
Eddie Johnson [D-TX30]
Henry Johnson [D-GA4]
Marcy Kaptur [D-OH9]
Patrick Kennedy [D-RI1]
Dale Kildee [D-MI5]
Carolyn Kilpatrick [D-MI13]
Mark Kirk [R-IL10]
Dennis Kucinich [D-OH10]
James Langevin [D-RI2]
Tom Lantos [D-CA12]
Rick Larsen [D-WA2]
John Larson [D-CT1]
Barbara Lee [D-CA9]
Sander Levin [D-MI12]
John Lewis [D-GA5]
Daniel Lipinski [D-IL3]
Zoe Lofgren [D-CA16]
Nita Lowey [D-NY18]
Stephen Lynch [D-MA9]
Carolyn Maloney [D-NY14]
Edward Markey [D-MA7]
James Marshall [D-GA8]
Doris Matsui [D-CA5]
Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY4]
Betty McCollum [D-MN4]
James McDermott [D-WA7]
James McGovern [D-MA3]
Jerry McNerney [D-CA11]
Michael McNulty [D-NY21]
Martin Meehan [D-MA5]
Gregory Meeks [D-NY6]
Michael Michaud [D-ME2]
Bradley Miller [D-NC13]
George Miller [D-CA7]
Gwen Moore [D-WI4]
James Moran [D-VA8]
Christopher Murphy [D-CT5]
Jerrold Nadler [D-NY8]
Grace Napolitano [D-CA38]
Richard Neal [D-MA2]
John Olver [D-MA1]
Frank Pallone [D-NJ6]
William Pascrell [D-NJ8]
Donald Payne [D-NJ10]
Ed Perlmutter [D-CO7]
Collin Peterson [D-MN7]
David Price [D-NC4]
Charles Rangel [D-NY15]
Steven Rothman [D-NJ9]
Lucille Roybal-Allard [D-CA34]
Bobby Rush [D-IL1]
Timothy Ryan [D-OH17]
Linda Sánchez [D-CA39]
Loretta Sanchez [D-CA47]
Janice Schakowsky [D-IL9]
Adam Schiff [D-CA29]
Allyson Schwartz [D-PA13]
David Scott [D-GA13]
José Serrano [D-NY16]
Joe Sestak [D-PA7]
Christopher Shays [R-CT4]
Carol Shea-Porter [D-NH1]
Brad Sherman [D-CA27]
Albio Sires [D-NJ13]
Louise Slaughter [D-NY28]
Adam Smith [D-WA9]
Christopher Smith [R-NJ4]
Hilda Solis [D-CA32]
John Spratt [D-SC5]
Fortney Stark [D-CA13]
Betty Sutton [D-OH13]
Ellen Tauscher [D-CA10]
Michael Thompson [D-CA1]
John Tierney [D-MA6]
Edolphus Towns [D-NY10]
Mark Udall [D-CO2]
Tom Udall [D-NM3]
Christopher Van Hollen [D-MD8]
Maxine Waters [D-CA35]
Melvin Watt [D-NC12]
Henry Waxman [D-CA30]
Anthony Weiner [D-NY9]
Peter Welch [D-VT]
Robert Wexler [D-FL19]
Lynn Woolsey [D-CA6]
David Wu [D-OR1]
Albert Wynn [D-MD4]
John Yarmuth [D-KY3]
Judy Biggert [R-IL13]
Michael Ferguson [R-NJ7]
Timothy Johnson [R-IL15]
Mark Kirk [R-IL10]
Frank LoBiondo [R-NJ2]

Also supported by these groups: (All Liberal Groups as well)

Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance
Sierra Club
Wilderness Society
Natural Resources Defense Council
Detroit Audubon Society
Greenpeace


“Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.” - Winston Churchill

Maybe read up on the differences between liberalism and conservatism.... Youve still got 10 years

 

[ColoradoRaptor]

I suscribe to no political party!! Both Liberals and conservatives have screwed things up!! One can be overly liberal or conservative which does nobody any good! Being apart of either just makes it easier for yall to fight like a bunch of school children!! Why, I say why be apart of either........ If you truly love this country YOU should be for the people and their best interests and very very few politicians actually stand up for the people!! Most are in it for the power and security it gives them...... one damn term ( good or bad ) and they have their salary for life not to mention healthcare and bodyguards!! The political system is geared for those within it not for those outside of it! There was a time when it was about US the people! Today if you really STOP and take inventory of the freedoms you have and compare that to the freedoms that our great granparents had......... you will realize that our socalled freedoms have been chipped away to the point where we are really NOT free at all!! We threw a tea party many years ago because of unjust taxes.....WELL people are you blind to the unjust taxes today??????? We the people are told how to live in every aspect of life under the guise of what once was real freedom!! Wake-up America before it is too late!! :rtm: