Lowering?

[Jackhill442]

bunk, schwagg

 

[REDXJ4FUN]

Good greif this is one of the reasons the street and performance forum was started so JACK A$$ like some people here wount start the whole don't lower it bs. an theree those of us who have experience lowering these and for those who have no clue jeep actualy won 2 road racing championships with a 2wd MJ. :soapbox: i'm done

 

[small pederson]

don't you know the SCION was designed by using a block of Tillamook Cheese ?

so i suspected

 

[Citat3962]

don't you know the SCION was designed by using a block of Tillamook Cheese ?

DOOD

Tillmook is the best fuggin cheese...

Forget kraft.. that's all I buy anymore..

 

[Fiveology]

Don't lower it, put some bigger rims. It'll look much better. Check out this site http://qwkjeep.com that guy has 18's i think. That Cherokee looks pretty good.

Those are stock Mustang GT 17s, I have a set laying around and wondered what they would look like on an XJ. Look pretty good actually. I agree that looks much better then lowering. The only lowered Jeep that looks good are the old MJs that were raced in the late 80s-early 90s in that roadracing series. Can't remember what it was called, but the MJs were red and I think sponsored by Craftsman.

 

[xuv-this]

for the rear- spring over axle sounds good, commanchies came like this. you might try experimenting with junkyard leaves, and peice one together too. for the front- use grand cherokee v8 coils and cut them- i've heard f150 coils are way to stiff.
also, i've heard of a couple of 4wd xj's that were pretty competitive in rally races, too. yes against suburu's. the advantage is they had awd truck-style unibody and solid axles(duh)- more wheel travel, and could really jump stuff without breaking cv axle and Inferior Front Suspension stuff.:doh: and some people still think these things are only good at goin' slow...cherokees are such a versatile vehicle, it's not even funny.

 

[John(XJ)Jeep]

Well i got some expereince here as i have lowered my XJ. The front is easy just cut the coils and bump stops. When you cut the coils make sure you cut them EQUALLY! many people don't do this right and have a vehicle that like to pull to one side no to mention much worse consequences going over big bumps. Count the coils you take off and do the MOST a half a coil at a time to make sure you don't cut too much off. Mark it with masking tape and make note of how much it dropped.

The rears are different in the cherokee I beleive than the commanche or S10's or simialar trucks. I don't know the names really but theres a plate on the top of the axel for the leaf springs to sit on and they are halfway into the shock mounts. So if you were to do the axel over leaf setup you have to cut the shock mounts on the axel and move them in about 2-3 inches. If you were to put the axel over leaf you'll find the mounts will interfere with the u-bolts.

After you have lowered your Jeep succesfully you WILL need an alignment done. Lowering it will increase your toe to the outward position. As it is good for handling too much will bind your driveline and cause abnormal tire wear. Also you camber will increase this is not bad it is ok to have quite a bit, too much might wear your tires on the inside depending on on your toe.

For 2 wheel drive models it'll be a little easier in the front but not much as you have more clearance.

Mine I have successfully lowered a total of 6 inches in the front and it is a 4X4. I haven't touched the back yet because of lack of time. I can go more but thats a little more work as I'd have to change a few other things. but in general lowering that much to begin with is very notcible and hardly cost you anything at all mine was basically free. :star:

 

[xuv-this]

wow. that's funny. it's like a diy lift; but backwards. pics? check out the kit in the air bag lift thread in the modified tech forum. it's a airbag 4-link for the rear!

 

[drifting_home]

I Haaaaate It!!!

 

[drifting_home]

Good greif this is one of the reasons the street and performance forum was started so JACK A$$ like some people here wount start the whole don't lower it bs. an theree those of us who have experience lowering these and for those who have no clue jeep actualy won 2 road racing championships with a 2wd MJ. :soapbox: i'm done

an MJ lowered would look a lot different than an XJ, but still the lowered xj rips

 

[PstrKd4BrthCntrll]

This is just a shot in the dark, but to lower the rear, could you take the u-bolts and plate from a MJ and convert the SOA to SUA. That would really push the tires into the fender well. RE has a flip kit for the MJ for thier 5.5" lift kit, So I'm figuring that it would drop the rear 5.5" since you're doing the opposite... right??

 

[REDXJ4FUN]

there will be some issues to deal with, such as the "frame rail" you will runnout of room pretty quick i would think. thats why lowriders c notch the frame.

 

[John(XJ)Jeep]

wow. that's funny. it's like a diy lift; but backwards. pics? check out the kit in the air bag lift thread in the modified tech forum. it's a airbag 4-link for the rear!

I'd rather have a coil-over setup than air-bag personally. A 4-bar would be better than a 4-link unless you plan to drag race. THe 4-bar is much smaller setup than 4 link.

there will be some issues to deal with, such as the "frame rail" you will runnout of room pretty quick i would think. thats why lowriders c notch the frame.

It's a good idea but you need to strengthin the frame around the C-notch.
Besides I'd like to park in the driveway.

This is just a shot in the dark, but to lower the rear, could you take the u-bolts and plate from a MJ and convert the SOA to SUA. That would really push the tires into the fender well. RE has a flip kit for the MJ for thier 5.5" lift kit, So I'm figuring that it would drop the rear 5.5" since you're doing the opposite... right??

Not for sure haven't really looked carfully at the rearend of a MJ so I couldn't tell you anything from that. In my head it might theoretically work but meh I don't know.

 

[bjoehandley]

I don't think it would look too bad dropped a little, and it is only 2wd. Those Archer Bros. Comanche's looked pretty cool back in the day too.

 

[JAGx1414]

dont lower a jeep WTF you dont deserve a jeep man... well its 2wd so its not a great jeep but stilll

 

[BrettM]

I would never lower an XJ either, but you guys need to read the sticky at the top of this forum: "IF you do not care for this type of modification, that is fine. Bashing or rude comments towards posters will not be tolerated. "

 

[John(XJ)Jeep]

If you guys don't F****** like it! then why are you HERE!
Leave man!

Read the rules then LEAVE! And don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Take the guy's advice here and save yourself a lot of trouble.

 

[Sarge]

When you cut the coils make sure you cut them EQUALLY! many people don't do this right and have a vehicle that like to pull to one side no to mention much worse consequences going over big bumps. Count the coils you take off and do the MOST a half a coil at a time to make sure you don't cut too much off. Mark it with masking tape and make note of how much it dropped.

I've only helped on two different vehicles where we did that BUT we actually cut a smidge more off one side (left in both cases, if I remember right) than the other side. Basically cut, reassemble, measure, swear, disassembly, cut, repeat. The ride does stiffen up big time.

*grin* Could always do like on a bike. Replace the shocks with struts and make a hard tail out of it. Run it down to the min clearance ya want. Not that I recommend this!!

Sarge

 

[John(XJ)Jeep]

I hope to never own a vehicle with struts.

 

[Lawn Cher']

A 4-bar would be better than a 4-link unless you plan to drag race. THe 4-bar is much smaller setup than 4 link.

Umm, enlighten me... how is a 4-bar different from a 4-link? In the mechanical engineering world, the terms are used interchangeably to describe a linkage or mechanism.