Looking at another XJ found one with a .....

Rev Den said:
Rusty's longarms....ALARM
999 Auto, WHY??...ALARM
Just a few hundred miles, at most, on trans....ALARM
Stock axles on 35's....ALARM
No overdrive on that tranny....ALARM

Rustys LAs? Whats wrong? Might not be Clayton, but its not exactly Rough Country either....

999 Why? He answered why and I posted his resopnse and it seems very legit. I was looking to swap an auto into my TJ and my choices were Aw4, 700r4 and TF999, I'd go TF999. Its alot more simple bolt in, not near the electrical work. It makes since if your geared for it.

The trans was rebuilt, so yeah a few hundred miles after being rebuilt is possible. I WILL take it to my trusted mechanic and have him check it out.

Axles? Whats wrong? ALOT of people run d30/8.25 with 35s. It has 4.10s cause he was running 32s, the lift and tires were just added Nov. I will be going to 8.8 in the rear.

The guy is selling it very cheap, I'd pretty much be getting a free Jeep. Its hard to buy a stock Jeep just like a modified one and pay the same price, when all I'm gonna do is modify it anyways.

It seems like I am defending the guy and I guess I kinda am, but my main reason fo the post was just about the tranny itself and how it does on the hwy with 35s and 4.10s.
 
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I bought my '88 XJ for $300.00 and added my lift it runs great and it's from a junkyard..... But I would stay away from that tranny they are junk for highway speed....
 
DaltonXJ said:
I bought my '88 XJ for $300.00 and added my lift it runs great and it's from a junkyard..... But I would stay away from that tranny they are junk for highway speed....


Umm this is my DD and I live in a very busy city so I can't buy an old rig.

Why does it suck? 3 speed yes, but why would you say that?
 
Whats the diffrence in a YJ nad XJ if they both had the same drivetrain and gears?

I just talked to a YJ owner that has a 4.0, TF999, 4.10s , and 35s and he said its perfect. He said it runs 2800 - 2900 rpms at 70 mph.
 
Guess I answered my own question there are alot of Wrangelrs up to what 2003? That came with the TF999 and they do fine. I have no idea why people are saying they suck?
 
ummm.....35's on stock axles scares me, i have 33" boggers on my d30/8.25 and that scares me a little, then again i also have 3.07's on 33's, i cant imagine it any lower for street, i just wheel in 4lo
 
Rev Den said:
Thats enough for me....these things are not rare, keep your eyes open for a good STOCK used one.

Jeeps are Built not bought....

and rev - where would i ever find a STOCK NEW one?
 
In the end it is your decision, you are the one that can see/drive the jeep and know how it drives. But I would go for it, and over time replace/uprade all the "iffy" parts he has in it. Find a good used AX15, upgrade the axles, and eventually replace the lift with what you want.

To me it looks like a good starting platform that is already fairly trail ready.
 
If this XJ is near where you live - see if the owner will ride with you and take your route to work. Fill it up before you start and when you're done. Then you can see MPG and see if you can live with it on your daily commute.
Since you're on this forum, you already know what you'll want to change when you get the cash (everyone knows - axles, gears).
If it's not close to where you are - take it for a long ride anyway with a good mix highway/street driving just like your ride to work.
Seems like a lot of $$ to shell out at once - but I don't even want to tell you what I have into a $275 XJ and I'm sure he's got more than $5500 into it.
If it looks good and you like it - get it, wheel it, break it, fix it.
 
Thanks for the last two responses.

Yeah its not perfect by any means, but I will upgrade axles and t-case eventually. Not sure I'll get rid of the TF999. I can't drive a 5-speed worth a crap, lol. If it runs fine on the interstate and is a decently strong tranny I see no reason to swap it out?

Yeah its very close to me. Thats a great idea about drving it on my route to work, I'll do just that. I can tell if the tranny isn't quite right or if the Jeep is got a problem. I know these Jeeps pretty darn well.

I think its dumb to say "Jeeps are built not bought", sorry, but if your low on cash do what you want. It would take me 2 years to take a stocker to where even this Jeep is. I just bought a house and funds are quit tight. By the time I were to have a stocker where this Jeep is it would have 150k on it too so its easy for people to say build it, but its not like I am not gonna be building this Jeep even more and stuff ill break and I'll upgrade that too. I am just starting off better than stock, but I still have work to do to it.
 
DaltonXJ said:
I bought my '88 XJ for $300.00 and added my lift it runs great and it's from a junkyard..... But I would stay away from that tranny they are junk for highway speed....
:rolleyes: Pulls my 2.8 on 31's at 70@2800RPM
 
Alot of hate for the TF999, yet no REAL reasons for it.

People saying its junk for the hwy makes zero sense when I speak to two different folks running them on with 4.10s and 35s and one with 4.56s and 35s both ride all day long perfectly fine at 75mph. I didn't think 2800 rpms was very bad at 70 mph?
 
ZachMan said:
Alot of hate for the TF999, yet no REAL reasons for it.

People saying its junk for the hwy makes zero sense when I speak to two different folks running them on with 4.10s and 35s and one with 4.56s and 35s both ride all day long perfectly fine at 75mph. I didn't think 2800 rpms was very bad at 70 mph?

look - we arent attacking you - take our advice for what it is - We are people who you have never me, on the Intra-net, posting our own Opinion, fawking do what you will....

if you want to ignore all our advice and go for it anyway - fawking be my guest, if you want to take all our advice as gold and not run 37's on your ford 9" / hp d44 because someone say's it is too weak - be my guest...

personaly i dont care what you do - just make DAMN sure that when you break something, and it puts you out of comission on the trail, that i am not behind you... or that you know how to work on your own junk.
 
I don't know what alot of people have as a problem with this tranny, but you figure that it was STOCK, FACTORY issue for a VERY long time from AMC in the FSJ, and had very little trouble, even behind the 401 monsters. Me, given the choice, I would JUNK that stupid A-W 4 in an instant, I have yet to see one that will hold up to the abuse/ work-load that the TF series can, stock for stock. Also, like I already posted, compare the cost of rebuilds, and the A-W 4 loses, HARD. So what if there is no "overdrive", people have been, and still are, driving LOTS of vehicles WITH-OUT it. So, if this works for this guy, and it sounds like it will, WE should be happy that he has a way to go to work, and go wheeling, instead of crying about the lack of "overdrive", and never giving any reasoning behind -NO-STAY AWAY FROM THIS TRANNY.
 
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ren said:
I don't know what alot of people ave as a prnble with this tranny, but 8mu figure that it was STOCK, FACTORY issue for a VERY long time from AMC in the FSJ, and had very little trouble, even B`hind t(d 401 monsters. Me, given the choice, I would JUNK that stupid A-W 4 in@an instant, I have yet to sde o` that 6hll hold up to ne abuse/ work-load that the TF series can, stock for stock. Also, likeA alrea$x pnste, compare the cut of rebuilds, and the A-W 4 loses, HARD. So what if there is no "overdrive", people have been, and still `re,friving LOTR of€vehicles WITH-ODP it. So, if this works for this guy, and it sounds like it will, WE should be (bppy that hd haB(a way to go to worj, a.e go wheeling, instead of crying about the lack of "overdrive", and never giving any reasonhng "dhind -G-STAY VAY FROM THIS TRANNX.[/@QOTE]
X2. The only problem I've had with mine is a slow reverse engagement whDf cold. And that's due to a lack of a check valve in the Valvebody. Fluid drains out, and has to be pumped back in. Once it' warm, it's finD" Like EVERY 9HP dodge tranny I've seen.
 
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XJ_ranger said:
look - we arent attacking you - take our advice for wh`t id!is - We are people who you have never me, on the Intra-net, posting our own Opinion, fawking do what you whll.&.

if you want to ignore all our advice and go for it anyway - fawking be my guest, if you want to take all our advice as gold and not rtn 3#s nn ynvr ford 9" / hp d44 because someone say's it is too weak - be my guest...

personaly i dont care vhat uou do - jurt m@ce DAMN sure that when you break something, and it puts you out of comission on the trail, that i am not behindqou... .p that Hku know how to drk on 8mur ownfunk.


You still make ZERO sense and don't get all in a hissy I am not hn a.xway mad or ignorinf anHgne on here. Are yot sp$`king of the tranny being a problem or the fact it has stock axles on 35s when you say its weak and gonna break?

I am ONLY asking about the tranny, I already have plans to either A. go to 33s or B. go to stronger``xles. So that (qsue is clear now, the Jeep is on a 4.5" lift and 2" BB, so I can easily take the BB off and run 33s.

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Now that I read your old post, I do disagree with you and I do understand you.

I have owned 3 XJs from 31s to 35s already. Do not think since I am buying one already lifted I won't know how to work on it. Everything is still the same, except the trahy. I can work on an XJ just fine and I have swapped axles on Jeeps before so don't think I am some 15 year old kid buying a big Jeep thats gonna cry when it breaks and expect others to help fix it. I'm just short on funds and this Jeep helps me get back onto the trahl t(`t much fatser....thats it. I wheel pretty hard and know how to change axles and u-joints pretty darn well.
 
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Hey, zachman. I would like to offer one thing for this tranny if you don't mind? If you get real tilty in your wheeling, you may want to go to a deep style pan to keep the pick-up tube under the fluid. The factory pan is good about 85-90% of the time, but I know how it goes offroad, sometimes. MoPar and mail order companies offer them at a fair price. Other than that, just like any auto, the cooler, the better. OH, yeah, DO NOT use the wrong fluid (ford style) in this tranny- trust me on that one, O.K.? Happy trails, ren
 
ren said:
Hey, zachman. I would like to offer one thing for this tranny if you don't mind? If you get real tilty in your wheeling, you may want to go to a deep style pan to keep the pick-up tube under the fluid. The factory pan is good about 85-90% of the time, but I know how it goes offroad, sometimes. MoPar and mail order companies offer them at a fair price. Other than that, just like any auto, the cooler, the better. OH, yeah, DO NOT use the wrong fluid (ford style) in this tranny- trust me on that one, O.K.? Happy trails, ren

Thanks man, the tranny has a deep pan, B&M shift kit, tranny cooler, etc. Its set up pretty decent.
 
EXCELLENT, just remember to adjust the bands once in awhile, and change the fluid about once a year, and this thing should last just about forever.
My family still has an old dodge truck (74) that has one from the factory and went almost 430,000 miles before it quit, and you know how farm trucks get beat., so we rebuilt on a saturdayafternoon, and drove to church on sunday in it. That was about 12 years ago, and it is still kicking.
 
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