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stewie said:
Beretta 92FS. i know its only a 9mm, and a full size frame. i carry it all the time even on my slim build. not too hard. i picked this as my first fire arm 'cause it was the same (basicaly) as what i checked out from the armory for work- keeping with muscle memory.
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What rounds for carry purpose?
Billy
 
JeepFreak21 said:
What rounds for carry purpose?
Billy

Federals Website said:
Premium® Expanding Full Metal Jacket
An ideal choice for agencies that don't permit hollow point ammunition, this revolutionary barrier-penetrating design
combines a scored full metal nose over an internal rubber tip that collapses on impact. It never fills with barrier material and assures expansion on every shot. A lead core at the base maintains weight retention.

courtesey http://www.federalpremium.com/default.asp?menu=1&s1=7



i was wondering what to carry for some time. for a short while i carried reminton +P+ hollow point. i seen two rounds that went through some walls-one just dry wall and the other drywall, stud, and carpet. it was recoved from under the carpet. neither had ANY expantion at all!

my CCW instructor suggested i check these out. from a little research i did they do not have a reputation for over penetration like most other 9mm defence rounds. as soon as the projectile hits resistance, the expantion process starts. the metal jacket starts expanding and compresses the rubber plug at the nose of the round. once that is compressed, the lead follower completes the process expanding out more. this round does not rely on soft tissue to cause the round to expand. good thing is that it will expand and loose energy when it encounters objects like drywall and masonary and soft tissue reducing overpenetration.

less chance of your round going through bad Mr Attempted Murderer, your living and dinning room and into your neibors bedrooom as can happen with other 9mm rounds.

STATS
muzzle 25yds 50yds
Velocity (fps) 1230 1160 1110
energy (ft-lbs) 350 315 285

i forget what the actual expation rate is.

i tried to get a pic of the carton, but the clarity sucks.

hth
 
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Beej said:
I think handguns should be banned...

ok, fine. i will just lug a couple shot guns arround for personal defence.






















when your the victim of a violent offence by an armed individual im sure you'd wish someone was there with a gun to help you out. it just so happens handguns are the easiest for the good guys to conceal.

for that reason i carry. not that i was a vic, but my wife was. i happened to be in the middle east at the time and the most i could do to comfort her after the cops left was to tell her on the phone to get over to her dads house and to give herself a big hug. i vowed "NEVER AGAIN". soon as we have some more $$, (maybe a christmas present) she will be carrying too (she just turned 21).
 
stewie said:
i was wondering what to carry for some time. for a short while i carried reminton +P+ hollow point. i seen two rounds that went through some walls-one just dry wall and the other drywall, stud, and carpet. it was recoved from under the carpet. neither had ANY expantion at all!
Look at Ranger SXT. This is one of the best carry rounds there is. Those were shot into a big water container (one of those 2 gallon things)
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Btw, those in previous life were known as black talons. For many reasons the name got changed while the design didn't really change much (I think the little hooks got smaller though)
 
one from my collection

 
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