Is Obama Marxist?

[ECKSJAY]

Obama is ANTI-CONSTITUTION, he should be bashed by any means

McCain isn't exactly pro-constitution either, he's just the lesser of two evils.

 

[TunaSoda]

McCain isn't exactly pro-constitution either, he's just the lesser of two evils.

Well, capitalism IS better than communism

 

[Boatwrench]

Obama is ANTI-CONSTITUTION, he should be bashed by any means

How? Which Article? Which Admendment? Please provide an example.

 

[ehall]

because fox news is not biased...

it's Fox so the quotes from Obama's book have less credence?

 

[TunaSoda]

How? Which Article? Which Admendment? Please provide an example.

This sound like someone who agrees with the constitution?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

 

[rock rash]

Even some of the Democrats are voting Republican this time

And even some republicans are voting democrat...it always goes both ways.

 

[Boatwrench]

This sound like someone who agrees with the constitution?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

Can't access You-tube from work, will look at it tonight.

 

[8Mud]

If you think of communism being one extreme and Fascism being the other and then think of them like a pie chart. The extremes in both cases actually almost meet again in the middle (bottom) of the pie chart. The differences between communism and fascism become fuzzy.
Obama isn't really a communist, redistribution of wealth, strong central government, Wrights speeches and others that mentored Obama scream Facist in my mind. Just substitute African for Arian and the picture becomes a little clearer.

 

[GSequoia]

The extremes in both cases actually almost meet again in the middle...

It is true that they can become very similar when left to their own devices but I still disagree that they are the same thing because the root of their ideology is the opposite.

A fascist says "Nation first."

A communist says "Citizens first." (Note: CitizenS, not citizen. One citizen is worth nothing.)

 

[8Mud]

It is true that they can become very similar when left to their own devices but I still disagree that they are the same thing because the root of their ideology is the opposite.

A fascist says "Nation first."

A communist says "Citizens first." (Note: CitizenS, not citizen. One citizen is worth nothing.)

The ideologies may be the opposite, but at the fringes the methods and results seem to become very similar. The distinction between the nation and the collective seem to blur.

 

[Gravesdiggerxj]

"America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."
Alexis de Tocqueville

I have no political affiliation, I vote for whatever I believe is best for God, Family, Country, Myself in that order,
but it appears that we have come to a fork in the road where neither road leads somewhere great and I can't stand the fact that I have to vote between the lesser of two evils.

I would love to see the day where we have more than 2 (dominant) political parties that could represent us and the various views and needs of this country.

I do take comfort in the fact that very little that Presidential candidates promise during their campaigns actually happeneds, so if either of these men turn out to be as dishonest as many represent them to be, maybe we'll be ok lol

 

[ehall]

It is true that they can become very similar when left to their own devices but I still disagree that they are the same thing because the root of their ideology is the opposite.

That's a popular misconception. Mussolini the father of fascism was a communist first.

http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm

In reality, the 30s and 40s saw a global drift towards collectivism of all stripes--Marxism (evolutionary), Mao/Lenin communism (revolutionary), fascism... even the Nazis were anti-capitalist collectivists... and here at home we had FDR running his New Deal programs which were pretty far left by modern standards

A fascist says "Nation first."

A communist says "Citizens first." (Note: CitizenS, not citizen. One citizen is worth nothing.)

This is much closer to reality. Mussolini's "breakthrough" was realizing that Marx was wrong about the worker body giving up on things like nationalism and religion, and instead Mussolini brought those things into the collective