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[Pat]

That's kinda cheap.

I certainly hope nothing bad ever happens with his hooks. It would be the worst way for him to learn.

Does he know if he's not with , its not Winterfest?

Apparently not...I found that pretty funny. "I'm goin to wheel WF, but not with ." Oh rly?

It actually looks like the infamous hooks are some of the few remaining parts of his XJ since that incident.

 

[terrehautian]

Last year, I was wheeling with another group that wasn't as picky. We were on a green trail around the quarry. I got stuck due to my A/T tires in the mud right in the middle and no one could get around me. I only had front hooks, so pulling me from the rear was out of the question. A TJ or CJ tried to pull me and his front bumper hook, that looked weak to being with, broke. Ended up being winched. After that, I decided I wouldn't wheel again until I got a rear point.

Speaking of the rear hitch, dropping it off tomorrow to be modified. Then Saturday morning will head down to the metal company of my friends and do modify the unibody rails (remove a bit of metal) and install the hitch.

 

[Fore Wheeler]

I still don't understand why you don't just get the original nut strips

 

[VAhasnoWAVES]

i had a set of OEM hooks for a while. after a few easy pulls, i found that they were starting to destroy my frame rails even in that short time period. ill never run them again, nor recommend them. you need to be tied into something serious, any tow hook is only as strong as it is attached to. front or back...

My rig was dent free for a day after I built it.

Day two...

odd... it looks better now than it did then. :dunno: as always, glad you walked away from it though.

I are drunked in Lansing.

x2 nights in a row

 

[terrehautian]

I still don't understand why you don't just get the original nut strips

I called the jeep shop and they said they didn't come with the hitch....I tried.

 

[VAhasnoWAVES]

want some? ill sell you mine? and a hitch...

 

[terrehautian]

I already got a Mopar hitch, I can't afford to buy anything right now unless it is dirt cheap. I can make these JCR's work.

 

[kastein]

In the amount of time you have spent talking about them, you could have brought it to a garage and paid the guy a six pack to file that hole a little bigger, then installed it. :spin1:

I still went wheeling without a rear recovery point, I just kept it in mind when choosing my lines to make sure I could always either make it through or be pulled easier from the front than the rear. In only one case did I end up needing one, when I blew a rad hose and had to be lowered down a hill with another jeep holding me back, and we just put the strap around my rear axle and went even slower than one normally would when lowering a dead jeep down a hill.

Gonna fix it somehow or not wheel though, the rules are the rules.

 

[seanR]

I will send you a link on how to turn an average garbage disposal into an RV shit tank pump.

http://steampunkworkshop.com/diy-rv-macerator-pump

 

[terrehautian]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/19/man-trapped-snowed-car-hospital

Guy survives for two months trapped in his "car". Survives.

 

[REWSTER]

Two hot dawgs Chicago style everything on them, and a gyro with fry's for lunch....





im getting all sorts of side pains now

 

[SAMSET]

Pops?

 

[macgyvr]

http://steampunkworkshop.com/diy-rv-macerator-pump

That is amazing.

mac 'so simple 'gyvr

 

[Fore Wheeler]

^ very cool.

 

[RedHeep]

I think it was WF Oh-10 when the dude went apeshit crazy after there were some disagreements with his front welded tow points.

It was after his square front driveshaft broke after his buddy spotting him put him into an impossible situation. We were going to throw a strap around the bull bar on the front of his bumper but "I don't know how good it's welded on there." This was after a 5 minute conversation about how he should just back down the 25 foot hill he climbed up and he kept saying no.

The cast hooks were welded to the top of the plate that he made his bumper out of. Instant steel hooked slingshot.

I don't think anyone is being picky, just using common sense. Obviously, recovery points are always welded to something, unless you have stock hook brackets, but you can tell what's safe and what's not. Anything cast welded to something is a big red flashing safety light. You might be the best welder on the planet, but the majority of us are not.

 

[VAhasnoWAVES]

It was after his square front driveshaft broke after his buddy spotting him put him into an impossible situation. We were going to throw a strap around the bull bar on the front of his bumper but "I don't know how good it's welded on there." This was after a 5 minute conversation about how he should just back down the 25 foot hill he climbed up and he kept saying no.

The cast hooks were welded to the top of the plate that he made his bumper out of. Instant steel hooked slingshot.

I don't think anyone is being picky, just using common sense. Obviously, recovery points are always welded to something, unless you have stock hook brackets, but you can tell what's safe and what's not. Anything cast welded to something is a big red flashing safety light. You might be the best welder on the planet, but the majority of us are not.

ive always wondered about this...

if something is homemade, does it automatically not pass tech or do you guys just inspect it further? or what about something like JCR's DIY kits? hell, there is nothing stopping the guy you buy a manufactured bumper from, from being high when he welded the thing.

 

[Rev Den]

As far as DIY bumpers, as long as the mounts are beefy and it looks solid, it will pass.

Don't overthink tech, we are just looking for things that can hurt someone.

Just an example of things that would not be allowed for recovery:

Welded cast hooks
Hooks bolted to a stock bumper.
Hooks bolted to the "frame" with no reinforcements.
A bumper with recovery points that moves when we lean on it.

Common sense stuff really.

Rev

 

[Fore Wheeler]

CAST hooks welded to steel bad

The d hooks on a DIY bumper still bolts to the jeep.

 

[97XJ2]

In a couple months here I again will be looking for something DD. As some of you may remember I had that Overland WJ which I loved and could tow a modest amount and I managed to get 21-22 hwy out of it (All 4.7 issues aside). Should I just replace that if I can find one (getting difficult) or do I find a fun car preferrably with AWD (think Audi Quattro, Subaru AWD) but not necessary to have the AWD. Age would be in that 8-10 years old range. Input?

 

[FlexdXJ]

Subaru had the NA motors figured out by then. They like to eat turbos because they needed a filter in the oil line for the turbo. there are kits to fix that.