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Fore Wheeler said:
It has been a tradition that the past president of the MWC has kept access to the BOD forum as long as the membership has been kept current.

Tonight I received a pm from your new president, macgyvr, informing me that because I resigned early the current board feels that I should no longer have access.

I have given five years to this club, just shy of four of them have been as president, this is the thanks I'm given by the current members of the board.

Your current president presumes to know the reason I resigned, but I can assure you he does not. He hasn't talked or text me since the day before I decided to resign.

I feel this is important for the members to know the type of administration you have leading the club.

I am very saddened that their arrogance has pushed me aside after I have given so much to the club.

I will not be attending winterfest this year as I had originally planned, good luck and have fun.
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MKR5150 said:
If the reason for resignation had to do with personal conflict with the BOD or the organisation as a whole then yes access should be limited.

BUT if it simply is a personal conflict then access should be granted as history of tradition as shown.

All actions and decisions made by the BOD have to be made public and answered when questioned by any member of the organization.

Laws of meetings and open information act. No dog in your guys fight just relaying biased info.

Good luck with your drama lamas.
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:explosion
 
Ok, I am going to put this out here and may be ousted for doing it, but I want to say upfront that I am doing it on my own, with NO input or pressure from the BOD, but doing it so in a manner that hopefully the membership can see where it has stemmed from and make their own decisions based upon the following. This is an excerpt from a post I made to the BOD and it will hopefully shine some light on what's going on....please do not shoot the messenger, it is just stating the facts from what I know as a past President myself...

So here it goes....


"With it not being something that is in the bylaws and was a gentleman's agreement so to speak, no vote was needed on it. In past tradition, it has been granted that former chapter Presidents retained access to the BOD section due to their involvement and knowledge of chapter workings and history. This privilege was granted to those who completed their term and kept an active membership. I am by no means taking away from Dan's time and service to this chapter and the great things he helped to accomplish during his terms, it simply falls back to the fact that he resigned from his active position, for whatever the reason, and did not fulfill his term. When the term was not fulfilled, he lost his BOD access. I know that everyone on here are friends, and some very close friends that we consider family, so this is why it sucks to see this happen.

Look at it in this light, Mike "Haleyes" Hale lost his BOD access when he let his membership expire, but he fulfilled his term. Rev lost his moderator privileges when he resigned. All actions have an outcome, this was one that was not a favorable one and has many people talking and some feelings hurt.

Take the good from the bad and have this be a lesson in documenting what the BOD sees as acceptable for allowing past Presidents access to the BOD forums. Have it marked down in some BOD meeting minutes and documented to avoid future occurrences and headaches.

Again, I think Dan did a great job and really put a lot into this chapter during his term(s) and I am no way taking away from that, he, along with his BOD, made HUGE strides in making WF the event that it is to date and getting some big name sponsors on board. I still consider Dan a friend and would have a beer with him at WF if he so decides to show up. His feelings are hurt, and rightfully so, but as a chapter and BOD, we have been through this with others before and it too shall pass.

I am not asking anyone to agree with me or my position on this, but thought I would shine some light on it from a former Presidents position. "

Now that you have read through this, I hope you can see how this came about and how the BOD decided to make their decisions. It was honestly to my knowledge not a personal grudge or vendetta against Dan in any way, shape or form, it was following what was set in place that allowed past Presidents their continued BOD access. Hell, I have let my membership lapse a few times and it denied my BOD access!

If the BOD sees this and they wish to remove it or feel that I have violated any rules by posting something from the BOD section to the general forums, then delete it or deal with me as you see fit.

Cheese "I may have opened a whole new can of worms" Man
 
That's not true, his access wasn't denied when he resigned his access was denied when new BOD came into play. A BOD that wouldn't complain about this (I would have raised a bicth fit).

Also he did finish a term. But not his second one. It really doesn't matter now because it's not like the BOD is going to give him access again since now he'd just be a thorn. But he did just as much if not more than any other president and now his input to situations doesn't matter? Just because one person is butt hurt?

The whole reason behind past president's being in the BOD is for their experience input, wether it conforms to the BOD's thoughts or not.
 
What does it gain by removing me?

It is personal, there is no reason to make new rules as time goes on.

Tyler should never have been able to get his access back after he let his membership lapse.

Rev no longer he'd a position to give him mod privileges.

I understand why I don't have mod privileges.

It's still bull.
 
kmanxj5050 said:
:confused1 We're allowed 500. says it right on top of the message area haha
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It said yours was full when I tried to send you the same message I posted here. It may take into account sent and received messages maybe? Hell I don't know, I just read the message it sent me :D
 
I would agree with that if it was Dan's first term as president when he stepped down but it wasn't. Dan served a full term and is still a member in good standing. If it wasn't personal, was access denied to any other presidents that hold a current membership for any reason other than not being a member anymore? I'm not saying it is personal or not but the way it was handled was most definitely not professional. All this should have been done through back channels.
 
Yes I do. If the BOD wants to deny that privilege, that's no problem to me. I understand that I had let my membership lapse in the past and if that is grounds for them wanting to deny that access, so be it.

It was read as current membership was kept up, so at the times my membership was kept up, I had access, when it lapsed, I did not have access. I believe other past Presidents have been in the same position and they still have access when their membership is paid up. Either way, not a problem with me bc if someone needs my minimal input, they can call or text me or PM me on here.
 
POLAR_JEEP_04 said:
all past presidents that are current on their membership are except dan.

I believe at least.
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but if you read what Tyler posted, Mike Hale lost privelage because he let his membership lapse. i could be wrong, but i think Tyler was not a paid member for a period of time. i think i remember seeing the black username...

again, i could be wrong. wouldn't be the first time.
 
89eliminator said:
but if you read what Tyler posted, Mike Hale lost privelage because he let his membership lapse. i could be wrong, but i think Tyler was not a paid member for a period of time. i think i remember seeing the black username...

again, i could be wrong. wouldn't be the first time.
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see my above post pertaining to this. Mike let his lapse and has never renewed, thus not being a current member.
 
I dont think anyone should have BOD access!

damn the man save the empire!


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