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Sent emails w/pics of some of the 'high end' tools out to a bunch of local pawns... Doubt anything will come of it...

Insurance didn't answer when I called (of course) so I left a message and will be calling after school again and again till someone picks up... Pretty pissed considering its State Farm and they're supposed to be one of the better companies out there...

My MAC guy is going to be faxing any/all transactions to me tonight, still haven't heard from my Matco guy...

All and all I'm considering this 100% loss until insurance takes my call.
 
Stay on the insurance company.... The more you bother them the more they will do...mom has worked for an agent for 6 years now. You just kinda have to press them
 
I will, what they offered essentially equated to a slap in the face. $1500? That's a paycheck for me, I don't want a paycheck, I get plenty of those. I want my tools back.

On the bright side, Pawn America earned a gold star in my book today. They are sending out global emails to their stores with pictures I sent them.
 
shortxjdoug said:
body swap? is the yellow one tore up?
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Rusted out. The frame around the windshield is rotted all the way through. So bad water has gotten into the fuze box and corroded a bunch if the electronics. It's been sitting in the driveway because the Willys took its spot in the garage. After all this snow I went to get in it a week or so ago and the floor on the drivers side had about an inch of ice.

The floorboards and doors are toast too.
 
Rev Den said:
The stick helps out going down hill.

Dan - Take your test light, stomp on it, cut the wires off, throw it in the trash. Go buy a decent quality DMM.

Rev
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^^^ :yelclap:

Talked with my actual Insurance Agent and not one of his underlings. He sounds pretty sympathetic to my issue and is currently talking to claims about it. He thinks its absolutely valid that since I'm no longer a tech they are personal tools and should be covered.

99SJ 'Crossing Figures' Ex
 
The only test light I 'had' was made out of a piece of coat hanger, rubber tube, small chunk of dowel, a light bulb, and a wire with an alligator clamp on the end...
 
99SJ_Ex said:
^^^ :yelclap:

Talked with my actual Insurance Agent and not one of his underlings. He sounds pretty sympathetic to my issue and is currently talking to claims about it. He thinks its absolutely valid that since I'm no longer a tech they are personal tools and should be covered.

99SJ 'Crossing Figures' Ex
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Keep on him... over and over if necessary. Remember this is the guy who is collecting the money off those checks you send. He works for you...
 
DrMoab said:
Rusted out. The frame around the windshield is rotted all the way through. So bad water has gotten into the fuze box and corroded a bunch if the electronics. It's been sitting in the driveway because the Willys took its spot in the garage. After all this snow I went to get in it a week or so ago and the floor on the drivers side had about an inch of ice.

The floorboards and doors are toast too.
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that sucks....i found rust in the driver floorboard and above the muffler in the 89. the rest looks solid so im going to fix it.

did it just get that bad over the years?
 
kastein said:
The NSG370? It's supposedly an awesome box, problem is, AFAIK it was only used in 05+ TJs and the CPS sensor is a completely different style in a different spot on the bellhousing.

Wild ass guess is that using an 05+ TJ 4.0 flywheel and the TJ CPS with a wiring harness splice MIGHT work, it could just be that the tone ring / notches on the flywheel are clocked to make up for the different location (it's over at around 9-10 oclock looking from the front instead of 2-3 oclock, right by the exhaust... probably a good thing) but if the computer firmware changed to make up for the difference in position instead, you're in for a world of hurt trying to swap one. Unless you know someone who can mill a mounting boss and opening into the bellhousing for a regular XJ positioned CPS.

I suppose you could also either splice the harness (if it's a 5-8v hall effect CPS like everything else) and have a custom flywheel done up with the proper notch pattern to compensate, or use the Hesco front-mount CPS kit for a few hundred bucks...
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It shouldnt matter on the position of the sensor. All the computer sees is pulses. Highs and lows. As long as it sees the six cyls in the correct position then the position of the cps shouldnt matter.
I could be wrong tho.
 
poorboy87 said:
It shouldnt matter on the position of the sensor. All the computer sees is pulses. Highs and lows. As long as it sees the six cyls in the correct position then the position of the cps shouldnt matter.
I could be wrong tho.
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definitely does matter... if you use the flywheel with the notches positioned for the XJ and then a sensor in the position for the 05+ TJ, the ECU will think the crank is turned about 90-120 degrees from where it's actually at.
 
I'm honestly not sure, but now I think I'm gonna go look at a parts catalog for a bit and see if that would work... that'd be VERY useful info to know.

edit: if rockauto is to be believed, they use the same flywheel, which implies that the ECU firmware is different to make up for it. That sucks... but then again rockauto also says the same flywheel fits a 93-01 grand cherokee so they might just be completely wrong.
 
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kastein said:
I'm honestly not sure, but now I think I'm gonna go look at a parts catalog for a bit and see if that would work... that'd be VERY useful info to know.

edit: if rockauto is to be believed, they use the same flywheel, which implies that the ECU firmware is different to make up for it. That sucks... but then again rockauto also says the same flywheel fits a 93-01 grand cherokee so they might just be completely wrong.
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very different part numbers...i checked :D

you would think though that the trigger wheel is the only difference, to make up for the different indexing of the crank. since the size of the block doesnt change one would assume the only difference is the clutch pressure plate....

short"it makes sense, thats why i think they didnt do any of it"xjdoug
 
shortxjdoug said:
that sucks....i found rust in the driver floorboard and above the muffler in the 89. the rest looks solid so im going to fix it.

did it just get that bad over the years?
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I didn't know about the windshield till I had one put in it last year. The guy almost refused to put another one in because it was so bad. Oddly enough even though it had obviously been that way for some time, it didn't leak till he put the new one in. I knew the doors were bad but never really worried about them. I figured worse come to worse I could just get new doors.

The straw that broke the camels back was when I had the belly pan off. I saw some flakey looking mud on the bottom, tried to scratch it off with a screwdriver and it went right through the floor board.

If it was just the floor boards, I'd fix it but I couldn't touch the cost of fixing the windshield area for what a new jeep would cost. Soon as I have $2000-3000 saved up I'm going to start hunting the Az classifieds and find a clean, low miles 99.....with a five speed. I figure I've got time to look. Mine runs and works fine. I'll just wait till the right one comes along.

That's the other thing. I've spent thousands and thousands trying to get the mpg up. I finally have came to the conclusion that 01's generally suck more fuel. Doing the kind of trips I do I just can't afford to only get 175 miles out of a tank of fuel.
 
shortxjdoug said:
very different part numbers...i checked :D

you would think though that the trigger wheel is the only difference, to make up for the different indexing of the crank. since the size of the block doesnt change one would assume the only difference is the clutch pressure plate....

short"it makes sense, thats why i think they didnt do any of it"xjdoug
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yeah... that's what I was hoping.

ECU or flywheel part numbers? I came up with the same flywheel numbers either way but only one company thinks that (acdelco) and they think it fits a lot of other wacky shit so there's a very strong chance that it's just the flywheel that is different I guess.

I know the ECU changed at some point because I'm pretty sure late TJs use CAN bus instead of CCD, or PCI bus instead of CCD, but I know nothing about how much the engine management side of things changed.
 
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