How soon until cruise missiles strike Iran?

Ramsey said:
It's sad to hear so many people lightheartedly talk about killing millions of people.


Yes it is. I wonder if somewhere in one of the countries ending in "...stan'' there are a few folks thinking the same thing.
 
Joke from someone else...."Why Iran"

"I finally figured out why, after invading both Afghanistan and Iraq, Bush
now wants to invade Iran. It's got nothing to do with terrorism, oil, 9/11,
Osama, WMDs or nukes.

If he gets all three in a row, he can start building houses and hotels."

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Ramsey, I agree it is sad to think about killing millions of people. However, keep in mind these are people that think you deserve to die just because you pay taxes to the "infidel" government. They would kill millions of us given the slightest oppurtunity.
 
Actually we just ought to give iran a dozen or so nukes as a gift. The big stick is if one goes off in some other country we will give you 200 more, one every 25 miles and every 10 seconds... with a repeat if necessary...
 
Ramsey said:
It's sad to hear so many people lightheartedly talk about killing millions of people.
If anyone is talking about it "lightheartedly" they are a fool.

The thought of millions of people dying sickens me. That being said. It's come to a point...when we have a crazy Iranian dictator making nukes and threatening us with them that we need to take some serious action.

All those millions of people who might die because "their" leader is a mad man need to step back and look at the situation. If they continue to let their leaders bully and threaten other countries who have 50+ times the power they do then the blood is on their hands when they get annihilated.
 
DrMoab said:
If anyone is talking about it "lightheartedly" they are a fool.

The thought of millions of people dying sickens me. That being said. It's come to a point...when we have a crazy Iranian dictator making nukes and threatening us with them that we need to take some serious action.

All those millions of people who might die because "their" leader is a mad man need to step back and look at the situation. If they continue to let their leaders bully and threaten other countries who have 50+ times the power they do then the blood is on their hands when they get annihilated.

well put
 
I get what you guys are saying, but it is pure fantasy. There are plenty of power hungry crazy dictators. There are not too many that are suicidal. Soldiers yes, leaders no. A couple of nukes only give legitimacy and bargaining power. They still have no military value.

What's he going to do, use them against us? Not. Launch a couple at Israel? Maybe. Israel would declare war which might draw the whole middle East into a 3rd world war. It would not just be giving the U.S. and Israel a bloody nose. The International community would definitely respond.

We simply send the bombs flying? Not in a million years. Or we manage to keep it tactical. We have a few more than he does. Mutual destructions is not assured, Iran's is. If Iran used their nukes it would be suicidal, and draw in other countries to our side. Bad move. He may be aggressive, he's not stupid or suicidal.

This is about politics, leverage, and regional power. It might be cool to talk about a meteor solving our problems, but that isn't going to happen either.

The very administration that has tried to be so tough on terrorism, has actually made us weaker than we ever have been. To the point that we have to actually listen to this idiot talk shit to us like some 5 year old and we are powerless to do anything about it. Not only because of our military strength at this time, but we have wasted our political clout too. We do not have the moral high ground to the rest of the world. Our position has been compromised. He knows it and is using it to his advantage. A very rational thing to do. All we have done is make our enemies stronger.
 
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Powerman said:
The very administration that has tried to be so tough on terrorism, has actually made us weaker than we ever have been. To the point that we have to actually listen to this idiot talk shit to us like some 5 year old and we are powerless to do anything about it. Not only because of our military strength at this time, but we have wasted our political clout too. We do not have the moral high ground to the rest of the world. Our position has been compromised.

Please elaborate. Me =
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Powerman said:
He may be aggressive, he's not stupid or suicidal.

The problem is that the Muslim's we have seen are exactly that. With absolutely no regard for the lives of others, much less themselves.
 
Listen, 9/11 happened and we all wanted to kick ass. Great. The hijackers were just about all from Saudi Arabia, but let's just pretend that isn't true. Osama was in Afghanistan AND STILL IS. If we didn't like Iraq and wanted to finish a job, so be it. There was enough UN sanction violations to make a case to go back to Iraq before 9/11.

But no, Osama is still free because we don't want to fight him on his own ground. We are containing him and trying to make a good show of finding him, but we are not. If that is not true, why do we have 200k troops in Iraq and not in Afghanistan? They are busy in Iraq doing what the military was not designed to do. Keep the peace and build a country. The military is for invading, conquering, and holding ground, period.

I'm not against war. I am for the proper execution of it. It is a very useful tool in the proper hands! We do not have support of the international community. That ended when we told them to fawk off 4 years ago. Popular to many at the time, but a bad move.

We should have never left Afghanistan until we had Osama on a platter. After that, if we wanted to finish Iraq we would of had more pressure. We could have made a case against them at the U.N. to comply or suffer. No more dickin around. But no, we made up some bullshit about WMD and did what we wanted for personal reasons. Bad move. Now our toops sit in a sand box as targets, with no clear objective and no clear targets. The terrorists are loving every minute and to put salt in the wound, we have to listen to that Iranian talk shit. It is a disgrace!

I don't hold our administration accountable for going to war. I hold them accountable for the poor execution of it. It is inexcusable and has hurt the country I served more than it has helped it.
 
old_man said:
The problem is that the Muslim's we have seen are exactly that. With absolutely no regard for the lives of others, much less themselves.

That's not true. The suicide bombers are, leaders of countries are not. Bush isn't holding a M-16. That is not his job. That is the soldiers job. A leaders job is to lead. If he is dead, or does not have a country anymore, he can't do that. It is a mistake to believe the Iranian leader is some suicidal whack job bomber. He is the same as every other leader. He wants to remain in power, and he want more of it.
 
That's true of most leaders, but not all. Some have been more commited to their cause than maintaining power. For example, near the end of WWII Hitler diverted trains from supplying troops in order to expidite his "final solution" of the Jews. He felt that was more important than trying to maintain power.

Is Ahmadinejad as wacked as Hitler was? I don't know, but we should place some stock in what people say they want to do. When he says he wants do destroy Israel, I believe him.
 
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I think a sniper team and a bullit to the leaders head will silence him better then some cruise missles.
 
old_man said:
The problem is that the Muslim's we have seen are exactly that. With absolutely no regard for the lives of others, much less themselves.
You need to give the man more credit than that, he may be a bit crazy but he definetly is not stupid.
 
dspilot said:
Ramsey, I agree it is sad to think about killing millions of people. However, keep in mind these are people that think you deserve to die just because you pay taxes to the "infidel" government. They would kill millions of us given the slightest oppurtunity.

Is that what the media told you to think?
 
All I'm saying is I don't think he is suicidal with his own life.

Their jews, who said they were innocent...:D*






*please note the attached smiley
 
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