- Location
- REDLANDS, CA. (SoCal)
Drunk tank said:
Go twice.
Holcomb Creek: June 11th or 12th
- Thread starter Drunk tank
- Start date
Go twice.
Appleseed
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
Seriously, come do Rowher in 2 days and then Holcomb next week.
jeep-noob
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Garden Grove, CA
can a stock XJ make a HOlcomb Creek run? I have t-case armor, gas tank skid, stock drive train and lift though.
- Location
- Hammertown, USA
jeep-noob said:
how much of a lift? what tires?
I probably wouldnt try it stock. There are two or three sections that get somewhat rocky.
http://shell.exo.com/~cal/offroad/BigBear-8-15-05/P1010010.JPG
sintax
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Corona, CA
stock usually implies no lift and 29 or 30" tires =)
jeep-noob
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Garden Grove, CA
correct no lift, 29" tires.
i assume Holcomb creek is same as Holcomb Valley?
That pic posted by cal is too much for a stocker
i assume Holcomb creek is same as Holcomb Valley?
That pic posted by cal is too much for a stocker
- Location
- Hammertown, USA
jeep-noob said:
I read that as "stock drive train and a lift though."
Sorry.
Yeah, I would not try holcomb in a stock xj with no lift. I ran it with a guy in a tj with no lift, we drug him over the rocks with a winch, and he took massive damage.
ruggedjeep
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Sherman Oaks
I ran it two weeks ago(im on 33's)..Neither one of the rock gardens have a bypass just as an FYI, it could be done with careful driving... and the pic Cal posted isnt as tough as it looks..
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rpraterxj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Lake Forest, CA
Do you have a locker or anything? Tow points? When are you wanting to go? I ran Holcomb several times with my 3" lift and it was pretty difficult. I have seen a guy run it with a budget boost and a rear locker. He did a good job and had a couple of good spotters.
Oh yeah, he had rock rails and the other armor you have. Do you have rock rails?
I personally wouldn't run or recommend a stock height vehicle. The rains from last year really changed alot of the trails up there.
There are no by-passes for the 2 major rock gardens and there are other challenging areas as well.
BTW, Holcomb Creek is NOT the same as Holcomb Valley. The :main" trail (3n16) runs through Holcomb Valley and there are a ton of off-shot trails. 3n16 is a graded fire road that stock cars could drive on.
There are plenty of trails that a stocker can run that give you some great views.
Oh yeah, he had rock rails and the other armor you have. Do you have rock rails?
I personally wouldn't run or recommend a stock height vehicle. The rains from last year really changed alot of the trails up there.
There are no by-passes for the 2 major rock gardens and there are other challenging areas as well.
BTW, Holcomb Creek is NOT the same as Holcomb Valley. The :main" trail (3n16) runs through Holcomb Valley and there are a ton of off-shot trails. 3n16 is a graded fire road that stock cars could drive on.
There are plenty of trails that a stocker can run that give you some great views.
- Location
- Hammertown, USA
ruggedjeep said:
It may not be, it was the first picture in the directly that i clicked on (that was holcomb). Either way, a stock jeep isnt likely to make the run without taking some damage and being strapped.
ifoundastick
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Pasadena
Not bad i will come if you dont mind... I ran all the way to the top with 3.07 and no locker it wasent that bad..... Now ive got 4.56 and a locker in the rear it does alright
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jeep-noob
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Garden Grove, CA
great info guys thanks (even though ifoundastick threw me off by recommending the trail)
I dont have rock rails or locker.
i do have tow hooks on the front and hitch on the back.
i do have t-case skid, gas tank skid
I guess i wont go. It was with some 4"+ lift and 33"+ YJ/ZJ dudes who told me to go but i was not sure and did not trust their opinion of the trail. So i looked to my naXJa kindred for advice.
The fact that the rock gardens have no "bypass" is key information. Those are the spots that give me the most concern.
I dont have rock rails or locker.
i do have tow hooks on the front and hitch on the back.
i do have t-case skid, gas tank skid
I guess i wont go. It was with some 4"+ lift and 33"+ YJ/ZJ dudes who told me to go but i was not sure and did not trust their opinion of the trail. So i looked to my naXJa kindred for advice.
The fact that the rock gardens have no "bypass" is key information. Those are the spots that give me the most concern.
jeep-noob
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Garden Grove, CA
rpraterxj said:
I have the San Bernadino map that shows all the numbered trails designations, great maps... i picked one up in Idyllwild over the new year weekend and it had Big Bear on the back. Idyllwild has few if any challenging trails (which is no surprise i guess) but there are some awesome campgrounds accessed by dirt roads, i recommend Thomas Mountain for some great hilltop/view camp spots.
jeep-noob
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Garden Grove, CA
as far as skids... does everyone run oil pan skids? how likely is it to puncture the engine or tranny pan? that is one of my bigger fears, cause it would mean being stuck on a trail for sure.
i assume the chances of puncture are greater w/o a lift and tires.
i assume the chances of puncture are greater w/o a lift and tires.
saki669
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Deep In The (909)
Dudes?? Where did everybody go?
You realize this post was started in June of 05 right?
Don't forget TDS is coming up in early march. Don't break your junk before then. Your insanity will be needed in the night runs.... :wierd:
ifoundastick said:
You realize this post was started in June of 05 right?
Don't forget TDS is coming up in early march. Don't break your junk before then. Your insanity will be needed in the night runs.... :wierd:
saki669
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Deep In The (909)
jeep-noob said:
I crawl on the rocks a lot and have never worried about the oil pan. You tend to keep the large rocks under your tires (thats the idea anyways). A tranny skid would be nice for some of those breakover hills, with the longer wheelbase XJ's like to grab belly dirt.
ruggedjeep
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Sherman Oaks
Im the unlucky one who let that one rock slip...
went with the Nth degree skid
went with the Nth degree skid
rpraterxj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Lake Forest, CA
Re: Dudes?? Where did everybody go?
That's right - last year post. Please keep an eye in the very near future for a couple of runs to Big Bear. I will be planning a run at the begining of Feb for Holcomb Creek or similar.
Last time I planned a run, I had 22 vehicles show-up. We split into two groups - one was big lift, lockers, etc - they ran John Bull. The other was a little smaller - a budget boosted XJ, a few stock TJ's, a a few 3-4" XJ's - we ran Holcomb Creek.
I want to run our
chpater trail soon. We have adopt-a-trail on one of the trails, but I ma not sure which one it is. I know that is connects to Holcomb Creek though.
saki669 said:
That's right - last year post. Please keep an eye in the very near future for a couple of runs to Big Bear. I will be planning a run at the begining of Feb for Holcomb Creek or similar.
Last time I planned a run, I had 22 vehicles show-up. We split into two groups - one was big lift, lockers, etc - they ran John Bull. The other was a little smaller - a budget boosted XJ, a few stock TJ's, a a few 3-4" XJ's - we ran Holcomb Creek.
I want to run our
chpater trail soon. We have adopt-a-trail on one of the trails, but I ma not sure which one it is. I know that is connects to Holcomb Creek though.jeep-noob
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Garden Grove, CA
wow ruggedjeep, nice battlescar
yeah those nth degree mobs look nice
its funny opinion on stocker + holcomb creek seems varied... my conclusion is that it is one of those in between trails, with leanings toward "stockers be yee warned".
yeah those nth degree mobs look nice
its funny opinion on stocker + holcomb creek seems varied... my conclusion is that it is one of those in between trails, with leanings toward "stockers be yee warned".
ifoundastick
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Pasadena
Yeah my junk is broken right now... but it's just because i dont have a front drive shaft. will be ready by then. I’ve just been lazy and not wanting to spend the money on my piece. But Holcomb is not that bad I guess to me. But I did have 33's and 3.07 you just gotta be graceful I guess. It would be cool if they got alot more snow then the trails would be alot more challenging.
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