asp
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that'd be sweet, but honestly hardly worth it for a stock XJ box. why not just get an aftermarket box, at that point?
Going to move steering box forward... Anyone been there already?
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Deadman 94 xj
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I thought I read somewhere that he was going with the PSC. I don't know how the gears are setup, it was just something that poped into my head...
asp
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:dunno:
ROKRWLR
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You are correct. I am installing the PSC larger piston box in the process. My stock box is oozing out every seal since I put the PSC P style pump conversion on.
The old box has ove 150K on it so it has lived a long life.
The old box has ove 150K on it so it has lived a long life.
Jeff 98XJ WI
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I was going to install my WJ box as I did, but get the direction reversed when I send it in for hydro assist modification. It would end up just like a JK box. After talking with Goatman, Paul, and others they felt having the drag link ahead like that would lead to more drag link contact with immovable objects like rocks! The consensus was that keeping the steering links more or less above the axle as opposed to in front of the axle was much better for reduced steering link contact with immovable objects. So, I decided to copy Goatmans steering and run a drag link from the rear facing pitman arm to the top of a forward facing high steer arm on the passengers side knuckle. Then, run a drag link from the bottom of a drivers side high steer arm over to connect to the drag link somewhere near the passengers side of the drag link via some tabs welded to the bottom of it. I mocked this arrangement up with my axle positioned where I felt full stuff would be and found it to clear everything and seemingly work well. So, that's my plan. Of course, I dont' have the rig up and running yet, so I can't say how it'll work out in the end, but if it works well on Richards rig, it probably will on mine too. Jeff
xjbubba
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Jeff, you have a picture of what you did? Can't visualize the "drag link connected to the bottom of the driver's side steering arm, back to the drag link on the passenger side??
Jeff 98XJ WI
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Sorry about that. Too many drag links and tie rods. 
I haven't actually finished anything, but the plan is to have a DRAG LINK from the pitman arm to the top of the passengers side high steer arm. Then, a TIE ROD from the bottom of the drivers side high steer arm to the DRAG LINK which will have tabs welded to it. Here is a pic of Goatman's buggy. I think you can get the idea from the pic even though you can't see the both ends.
I haven't actually finished anything, but the plan is to have a DRAG LINK from the pitman arm to the top of the passengers side high steer arm. Then, a TIE ROD from the bottom of the drivers side high steer arm to the DRAG LINK which will have tabs welded to it. Here is a pic of Goatman's buggy. I think you can get the idea from the pic even though you can't see the both ends.
Jeff 98XJ WI
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Here's a shot of mine mocked up from the top. You can't see the ends, but you can see how far behind the pitman arm end is compared to the tie rod etc.
Jeff
Jeff
xjbubba
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Thanks for the pics--one picture is worth a thousand words:doh:
I'd be inclined to run the tie rod under the steering arms, separating it from the drag link. Seems that would be easy, considering you're using rod ends.
I'd be inclined to run the tie rod under the steering arms, separating it from the drag link. Seems that would be easy, considering you're using rod ends.
ROKRWLR
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Well... The box is moved 1.5" forward now, and it worked out pretty well. I did end up clearancing the radiator cross member a little bit to clear the backlash adjustment nut on tom pf the box. I'm not sure if this would have been needed on a stock sized box or not.
Before:
After (moved the box 1.5" forward). You can see the original mounting hole to the right of the bolt...
Here you can see the clearancing near the radiator and front crossmember. Ignore the choppy cut on the front. I must have had too much coffee, I couldn't cit a straight line to save myself with the plasma that day.
It's all done, but now I can't drive it until the ups driver comes. I didn't think to check the fittings, an this box uses different fittings than I had on the old one so I can't hook up the ram. D'oh!
The only hiccup I had (other than the fittings) was that I had to pull the sway bar off. With the box moved forward, the output (pitman arm bolt) is perfectly aligned with the offset portion of the sway bar. It was close enough that it would for sure hit driving around town. No worries, though. I usually have it disconnected anyway.
Before:
After (moved the box 1.5" forward). You can see the original mounting hole to the right of the bolt...
Here you can see the clearancing near the radiator and front crossmember. Ignore the choppy cut on the front. I must have had too much coffee, I couldn't cit a straight line to save myself with the plasma that day.
It's all done, but now I can't drive it until the ups driver comes. I didn't think to check the fittings, an this box uses different fittings than I had on the old one so I can't hook up the ram. D'oh!
The only hiccup I had (other than the fittings) was that I had to pull the sway bar off. With the box moved forward, the output (pitman arm bolt) is perfectly aligned with the offset portion of the sway bar. It was close enough that it would for sure hit driving around town. No worries, though. I usually have it disconnected anyway.
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