Eaton e-locker and Full Detroit combo meal

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I've researched the pros and cons of available lockers and believe an Eaton e-locker up front and full Detroit locker in rear will provide the best options for rock crawling and overall cost. For budget reasons, I'm keeping my sleeved D30 with the Warn hub kit, 4340 axle shafts, new Synergy ball joints, Ruff Stuff diff cover, and new 4.56 ring and pinion to match my rear 8.25.

Not sure why, but I'm looking for your opinions :worship:

ARB is juuuuust a bit too much considering the cost of the gold plated locker and fancy air pump. The TruTrac limited slip is not for me, and I've had enough fun with a lunchbox. I'm looking for a strong selectable front locker that won't break the bank and a tried and true Detroit in the rear.
 
I am a fan of Detroit in the rear and any selectable up front as long as you have an auto transmission.
 
If you want to go auto locker up front stay away from detroit. No first hand experience but i have heard of them being damaged with shaft breaks. Id go with a grizzly for auto locker. And ox for selectable
 
Kelly, I have a new in box, set of Synergy ball joints for the D30 if you need them. Make me a offer.
Don.
 
Kelly. Go full carrier grizzly a front and rear since you have fuses/hubs. When you set the front gears set them to 2 to 4 thousandths BL so they are nice and tight. I think one common trend in 30s lasting is tight BL. You can probably have gears and grizzlys installed front and rear cheaper than just a front arb and compressor.ive ran detroits in 44 , 14b, and hi9 rear. Never a single issue.
 
from here on out it's grizzlies and zip lockers for me. I'm loving my Yukon grizz front to death. I forget it's up there but still have total and reliable traction. just the way a locker should be. Yukon just does it better. I'll probably get another grizzly for the rear. or hell, maybe even a zip locker. Robert at RWKHaussupply is your guy
 
Thanks for the info, guys. I have been talking with Robert from Rawkhaus and he had me set up with a D44 Rockjock for a bit more than I wanted to spend. For now, I'm going with the Yukon Grizzly up front on my old D30 and Detroit in the rear. UPS is delivering crap to my door every day. I should be back on the trail in a few weeks.
 
if you go with a selectable/auto combo, and you are rock-crawling, get the selectable in the rear.

you need to be able to unlock the rear for tight steering applications.


my personal opinion is to have both be selectable, I have ARBs front and rear and have never once regretted how much they cost.
 
rockclimber said:
if you go with a selectable/auto combo, and you are rock-crawling, get the selectable in the rear.

you need to be able to unlock the rear for tight steering applications.


my personal opinion is to have both be selectable, I have ARBs front and rear and have never once regretted how much they cost.
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Sorry, this seems ass backwards. I love my detroit in the 8.25. In the front, my lockrite binds a ton, and makes it hard to steer, and it is downright sketchy in snowy roads. 4hi with the locker tosses my steering wheel wherever it decides it wants to. The front autolocker is more of a hindrance for tight steering than a rear autolocker, because the locked up shafts seem to actually make steering wheel effort that much harder.

When I beef my 30 more, I will likely go selectable up front.
 
srmitchell said:
Sorry, this seems ass backwards. I love my detroit in the 8.25. In the front, my lockrite binds a ton, and makes it hard to steer, and it is downright sketchy in snowy roads. 4hi with the locker tosses my steering wheel wherever it decides it wants to. The front autolocker is more of a hindrance for tight steering than a rear autolocker, because the locked up shafts seem to actually make steering wheel effort that much harder.

When I beef my 30 more, I will likely go selectable up front.
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I was thinking the same thing. I'm with Sean on this one.
 
he's right. selectable belongs in the rear for a street driver. you'll certainly appreciate the concept after wearing down a couple tires with an auto locker or spool rear. the front can be something you put up with. it's all preference/usage though. no right or wrong answer really
 
CAJJ93XJ said:
he's right. selectable belongs in the rear for a street driver. you'll certainly appreciate the concept after wearing down a couple tires with an auto locker or spool rear. the front can be something you put up with. it's all preference/usage though. no right or wrong answer really
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i Agree He has a Warn hub kit in the front he'll never know it's there on the street
 
I can't turn at all in the rocks with the front arb locked. I have to unlock it to turn in tight spots bound up.
 
I wheeled with detroits front and rear for a few years. The detroit in the front will unlock if you put the trans in neutral or unload it somehow, you can turn easier like that at times. The spool action of my ARB when locked in the front is a pain to steer.

I feel there isn't much improvement in steering with the rear locked or unlocked. I do unlock the rear axle in tight spots just because I can.

I replaced the rear detroit once I swapped from an auto to manual trans. Too much slop action from the detroit with the manual. No problems at all with the auto trans and detroit in the rear.

Put in what you can afford and go wheel. The debate will go on forever for selectable/auto lockers. Both have their upside and downsides.
 
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