Dom?

Mark Hinkley said:
I would like to see some DOM tubing with a seam, but it must be 1/2" dia. x 17.005' long on a rack four and 1/2" off the garage floor which has 3 coats of grey epoxy floor paint splattered with 6 1/2 different shades of pink florecent paint.

So use some pipe and get the heck on with it!

Next we can debate on how much preheating and postheating you need to do when changing your underwear!

Could someone tell me what "Go Jeeping" means???????????????????????????????

hinkley

In the words of Dude Lebowski:

"Whoa man, chill."

Have you been hitting the rock again?

CRASH
 
MaXJohnson said:
Beezil said:
actually max, I'm sure xjguy would rather just stay on his computer....QUOTE]

Who knows...

He may surprise us all with some "real world" hands-on experience. I heard he's working on a 4-point cage with some type of device on the top that will reduce the possibility of a roll-over by 85%.


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That just cracks me up.... :)
 
MaXJohnson said:
Beezil said:
actually max, I'm sure xjguy would rather just stay on his computer....QUOTE]

Who knows...

He may surprise us all with some "real world" hands-on experience. I heard he's working on a 4-point cage with some type of device on the top that will reduce the possibility of a roll-over by 85%.


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Ill give it to you ...thats some funny $hit. You proved me wrong a jizz head can come up with something. LOL

XJguy
 
XJguy said:
Got news for you buddy...that aint DOM..you got ripped. :looser:

XJguy
Jeezus man will it never end...you most certainly can see the seam, it may be faint, but it is there. Even if you roll the tube across a mandrel under severe pressure the junction where the tube was forge welded together initially will have grain growth, and a "reorganized" grain structure. The color of the weld area is slightly off color due to the annealing the weld area goes through post welding to relax the grain structure to prevent stress risers and warpage of the tube.

Stick to the pretty boy B.S. and quit trying to act like you have knowledge of these things that you have read about once or twice.
 
Beezil said:
I know what you meant, and I know what crash is saying....we're talking what we can SEE.....not what is.....I've had runs of DOM with NO VISIBLE seam,and some were it is barely apparant....I can actually post pictures of DOM i have on hand that show extremes.....even the color is different.

I am willing to bet of you cut a sliver of that DOM that you can't see the seam and polished the end up a little with some sand paper you would see the seam very clearly. It would look like this |)(|. The outer lines are the heat affected zone from the annealing, and the inner curved lines are the lines created when the pipe was forged together.
 
Re: Only the best will do.

I just know what I have read...

As legend has it, the Benedictine Monk, Dom invented Champagne.
Dom Perignon, the man, was born about 1638. His full name was Pierre Perignon. He was a Benedictine Monk at the Abbey of Hautville near Riems in France. Wine was already being made in the Champagne region before Pierre was born. Dom's legacy to the world was a procedure for production of Champagne. This included riddling the ageing bottles so the sediment can be removed, adding a dosage for a secondary fermentation, and use of corks to seal the bottles. These steps combined with the availabilty of stronger bottles which could hold the added pressure, allowed the commercial production of Champagne to begin in about 1700. Dom Perignon died in 1716. His famous statement "I see stars" was uttered upon his first taste of Champagne.
Dom, the Champagne, was first produced in 1936. Moet et Chandon which purchased the Abbey of Hautville 120 years earlier produced a super cuvee which celebrated the Monk's exploits. Dom is only produced in exceptional vintages; in 2 styles, the Brut and the Brut Rose and in 2 sizes, 750ml bottle and 1.5Liter bottle. The name has become synonomous with class and stature. A gift of Dom will express that only the best will due.

Hasta.

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Alright children back to your work!
 
wow what was the topic at hand again? How to argue about agreeing or was that agree about arguing, heck I can't remember hehehe
Thanks Chad for asking this though, and to all that responded with info, as I found some of the info useful.
 
Wait there was info in there? :dunno:
 
well ya, dom can have an invisible seam unless it's slightly visible then that could be ok but you shouldn't use it unless your rules say so or was that ahhh never mind lmao
 
Man I can't believe no one has posted the picture I requested, what's up with you guys, I thought you were all bad a$$es and had it...


Beezil, xjguy, max.......... Picture?????????


hinkley
 
what picture do you want?

i can show you a picture of DOM with no apparant seam on the outside, but has slight weld discoloration on the inside.....

we all know dom has a seam....

I'm pretty sure those of us that are calling it "not apparant" or "almost invisible" are talking about the same thing.....

I can also show pictures of some really aweful HREW.....I get economical runs of tubing that not only have the characterisitc purple-brown weld seam down the length, but have a slight weld ridge to them....happenes in thin wall.....

I'll show you some tubing if you want, but I think rich has a "no cameras" rule in his shop....you know, top secret shit going on in there...of earth shattering proportions I am sure.
 
Beezil said:
what picture do you want?


I would like to see some DOM tubing with a seam, but it must be 1/2" dia. x 17.005' long on a rack four and 1/2" off the garage floor which has 3 coats of grey epoxy floor paint splattered with 6 1/2 different shades of pink florecent paint.

That one! I see I didn't ask for the picture, I left it out, so now I'll edit and ask for the above to be posted as a picture!

:D

hinkley
 
"....you know, top secret shit going on in there"

We don't wanna have anyone stealing "intellectual property".


I can't believe this post is still out here.

Yeah, DOM is stronger. Yeah, it's more expensive. Do you need to spend your coin on it? That's up to you and how safe you need to feel. How much more is there to discuss?
 
SPOBI on Beezil! I have seen pictures of the interior of his shop. How do I know its his shop? How many lowered XJ's with cages are out there?
 
this is nasty shit.

this is HREW....

THIS is a visible seam....

when you compare a seam like this to a seam on DOM, you will understand why a few of us are saying that a dom seam is "almost invisible"....and from the OUTSIDE of most DOM tubing sections I've seen, ya just can't see it...

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posting pictures of dom momentarily
 
JJ13 said:
Jeezus man will it never end...you most certainly can see the seam, it may be faint, but it is there. Even if you roll the tube across a mandrel under severe pressure the junction where the tube was forge welded together initially will have grain growth, and a "reorganized" grain structure. The color of the weld area is slightly off color due to the annealing the weld area goes through post welding to relax the grain structure to prevent stress risers and warpage of the tube.

Stick to the pretty boy B.S. and quit trying to act like you have knowledge of these things that you have read about once or twice.

Another J.Off who thinks he knows something has to come in with info that has already been covered and of course has to leave his dim witted wise a$$ comment...go jump in a lake lemming, who invited you here...have you ever even seen DOM, you tool?

XJguy
 
This is an example of some DOM....

NO VISIBLE SEAM on the outside WHATSOEVER.....

some lengths have a weldseam, while others have a slight discoloration from the heat on them....

compare that to HREW, its pretty much night/day...


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