Death sentences....

[red91]

Here ya go john..the apeasment of the tiger...


First they came... is a poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892-1984) about the quiescence of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.



When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.





When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


This is the perfect example of why Pacifism will never work.

 

[red91]

I saw this this morning...

according to her theory this man should not receive capital punishment.

If you can read this story as a parent, and not want to see this man killed for his actions then, most if not all, hope is lost.

This is once sick son of a bitch...

http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=3319120


and yes..i would pull the trigger, in a heartbeat, no questions asked.

 

[XJ Dreamin']

I saw this this morning...

according to her theory this man should not receive capital punishment.

If you can read this story as a parent, and not want to see this man killed for his actions then, most if not all, hope is lost.

This is once sick son of a bitch...

http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=3319120


and yes..i would pull the trigger, in a heartbeat, no questions asked.

I can see where the defense is going with that one. However, the prosecution won't need to present a confession if they can get enough forensics off the body. The danger is the judge throwing out forensics from the body. Did he provide the info before he asked for a lawyer? Did they read him his rights before he told them where she was? If the police would never have found the body without that info, the forensics could be in danger.

Still, gotta go with the system. Lobby and vote to change it if you feel strongly that it's flawed (which it is - though it still works - mostly). Get him through the system, by the book, let him run his apeals and then ram home the plunger.

 

[yardape]

I saw this this morning...

according to her theory this man should not receive capital punishment.

If you can read this story as a parent, and not want to see this man killed for his actions then, most if not all, hope is lost.

This is once sick son of a bitch...

http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=3319120


and yes..i would pull the trigger, in a heartbeat, no questions asked.

I saw a clinical lecture a couple of years ago with graphic depictions of child abuse victims. The lecture was given by a pediatric nurse who deals with that stuff on a regular basis. The above child was lucky by comparison. I won't go into the details because they are horrific. Suffice it to say that there are people roaming this earth disguising themselves as "normal" when in fact they deserve to be eviscerated with a red hot poker.

 

[5-90]

Let's see - anything I've missed or forgotten over the last hour - I'm not about to do multiple quotes, so sort this one out on your own...

I'm not sure if they have "debate" classes - or debating IN class anymore, but I'm glad I had it when I went through the mill. I also did three and a half years on the school's "Competitive Speaking" team, specialising in Debate, US Extemporaneous Speech, FOreign Extemporaneous Speech, and Current Events Extemporaneous Speech. Extemp was fun - you didn't know what you were talking about until you got there, then you got a 4x6" card with a topic written at the top, and 10-15 minutes to prepare a speech on that topic (which had to be researched, with outline and sources written on the card - which was handed in when you were done.) Talk about learning to think on your feet!

I'd read that poem before, but it's a classic, and always good. It's something that should be posted in public fori from time to time to remind everyone else why "appeasement won't work."

As far as the guy goes; yeah, I'd have no trouble seeing him dead. People like that (sociopaths, borderline sociopaths, psychopaths, and full-blown twelve-cylinder whack-a-loons) are why we have a mechanism to put people to death with government sanction. Some people can't be rehabilitated, some won't reform, and some just aren't worth the risk (and these categories often overlap.) Would I do the job? That one is not one I'd need a lot of convincing for - and do I get a choice? I'd probably prefer to unscrew his head than shoot him, or perhaps return the favour. Cement overshoes, and bury him alive in loose soil. Death could take hours...

If we're going to kill someone, then I do agree - the method of execution should bear a correlation to the method of murder. Fear needs to be involved, and time is very much a factor. If you're going to kill someone slowly, then you should be put to death slowly - prefereably in a similar manner.

This could be the Draconian in me talking; but, while I'd need convincing to put someone to death personally, it probably wouldn't be much - maybe just checking out the highlights of the trial would be enough.

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[RichP]

Notice he asked for a lawyer, hmmm, the ammunition manufacturers need to come out with a 'lawyer' round for monsters like that....thats all they deserve.. though for some of them I always like the 4 horse or elephant method, one tied to each extremety...
There was a more detailed version on the local florida paper, she had managed to get her fingers out of the bag and was trying to get out... I would not shoot him, crush his windpipe and watch but not waste a bullet...
Actually I'd ask the dead girls parents if they would like a private hour or two with my gerber trooper II

 

[Starscream]

Notice he asked for a lawyer, hmmm, the ammunition manufacturers need to come out with a 'lawyer' round for monsters like that....thats all they deserve.. though for some of them I always like the 4 horse or elephant method, one tied to each extremety...
There was a more detailed version on the local florida paper, she had managed to get her fingers out of the bag and was trying to get out... I would not shoot him, crush his windpipe and watch but not waste a bullet...
Actually I'd ask the dead girls parents if they would like a private hour or two with my gerber trooper II

I agree with the lawyer ammo. This guy is whacked. But, while we're talking about sickos, let's talk about the lawyer defending this guy. I think he needs a good smacking-around. Is his salary really worth letting this guy get out easy? Jeez...

 

[5-90]

I dunno - in cases like this, perhaps the punishment should be shared by the attorney.

Probably save all the "lawyering up" we get from OC cases, and it might actually do something about all these DUI defenders I'm seeing on TV and in the phone book...

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