beginer welding please help....

white_elephant

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well.....like it says....this will be like my third time welding....can i get some advices.....pictures...sketches......or anything..that can help me...i want to do a roll cage for my cherokee but i want it to be outside....its a 4 door.....

or is there a company that sells a kit that i have to just weld everything together??
 
Wait! Learn a lot more, practice a lot more, before you consider doing a cage.
 
Just go to the local metal yard, buy a bunch of different pieces and thicknesses of scrap steel, and practice building something. You should get the hang of it after a while. Like said before, there are some books and probably some videos that can help you along the way.
 
Picking up a welder this weekend. First project will be bushing style motor mounts for my Ranger, and a couple of 1x1 square tubing frames for a welder cart, shed reinforcement and an outdoor kitchen/bar... Then I start on Jeep stuff... I haven't welded for years, so I think I am going to need to start slow...
 
There's plenty of info to read, books and online, for welding instruction. I was told to do something that I think was real good. Weld two pieces together, then put it into the vise and work it back and forth to break the weld, and then look at your penetration. Keep doing that until you can't break it apart. Keep in mind that it gets real easy to make a good weld when you're welding flat on the bench, it's WHOLE different situation when position welding on your rig, especially the positions when welding round tubing in various places when building a cage. Cut small pieces and practice welding them on the bench at all angles. Each time you start to weld, practice on a small piece of the matrerial you're going to use first so you can get the heat and speed set right.

Have fun,
 
Lots of us started welding on small items first. I would modify my old buggies to make them fit me.
When I bought my Cherokee I started by building a new front bumper support bracket. Then some rockers....roof rack, then rear bumper....etc. etc.
I've been welding long enough to feel comfortable welding things that would save my butt in an accident.....but are you?
Practice on misc. add ons. There will be a time when you are comfortable with welding tube, then give it a shot.

Rick
 
If you havent already, get a notcher and some round tube, cut them into about small sections, notch the top of one, make a " T " with another section (laying the tube in the notched section), weld that up. Pracice that. Weld it in quarters, dont try and go all the way around in one shot. Hope this helps! Worked for me!!

BTW, what are you going to be using for a welder?

Jason
 
GET A BOOK!!!

youll find a good welding book a very resourceful tool in learning how to weld well. it well help you figure out how to troubleshoot your welds, because there are A LOT of variables that can change your weld quality, for example: travel speed, angles of your gun/rod, amperage/voltage, type of wire, type of gas, position of weld (flat, vertical up/down, overhead) motions of your electrode- it all changes your weld.

and practice a lot before you make anything that requires a quality weld.

btw, when you start welding, a good thing to know is how postions affect your weld:
flat: easiest to start to learn, makes a well contoured weld with good penetration.
V UP: Gives deep base metal penetration with a tall contour
Vertical Down: Flat weld contour with not much penetration.
overhead: flat upside down.

hope this helps some
 
like others have said, read a book from your local library or an online manual then read it again, then go and just weld weld weld everything you can thats laying around. ive been welding for almost 10 yrs and i still learn everytime i weld, nothing better then experience. i would build a bumper, rock sliders, cosmetic body armor type things before you weld somthing on your suspension, steering, or roll cage just to give yourself some experience.
 
Reading books are good, you will get the idea. But until you start welding it will not click. How many professional welders do you know that learned from a book? I have been welding for 8 years, I do it for work, and for hobby such as my offroad business. I love it. But loving it and doing it right is 2 different things. You have to take your time, clean material makes the best welds, and practice practice practise. Weld above head, laying on your back, bent over welding under you, every bad situation you could have to weld in, exspect at some point to do it. I started out with a ac/dc stick welder. I have welded high pressure steam lines, down to thin sheet metal. Mig makes it easy, and even with a pretty weld, you might not have the right penetration. If you practice you will learn how to control your heat, adjust your speeds, and hopefuly you are using argon mixture, much cleaner. The rest is up to you, get a good welding shield and sleeves. Be prepared to get burned from time to time. Good luck with your welding. And again what size welder are you going to use?
 
i think lincolns site has some good info on it, i know they have some good stuff for tig welding. and of course what youve heard from every one in here practice! just weld scrap see how it comes out
 
go buy a ton of various scrap dont care what it is just pile it up and then start putting pieces together one at a time and just make a expanding mess of angled odds and ends welded together. its a easy way to learn how to get in wierd positions and how to make pieces of differnt thicknesses weld up strong
 
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