Advice? For Unfriendly Neighbor...

[WB9YZU]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

So would you suggest he park at the bus station and catch a bus/walk home? The neighbor doesn't own the street in front of his house, he owns the house and the property its on. If there's nowhere to park, there's nowhere to park. People used to park in front of my apt all the time, it was irritating as hell when I had to walk a block or two to get to my apartment, but I realized I had no say in whether someone parked in front of my apartment.

I am suggesting that he man up and go talk nicely to his neighbor, leave him the hades alone, find someplace else to park, or move his behind out of there.

Catholic Diety ! How many times do I have to make the same exact assertion before you read the not so fine print?

This isn't rocket science Darky, it's how to get along 101!

edit2: You can't tell me that "there is no place to park". You probably have never been to his place, I have not, but I would put good faith on the reasoning that there is parking within 2 blocks of his place. Inconvenient, well, sure, but it's possibly well worth the walk.

 

[WB9YZU]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

oh look, a penis.

Yes, you are :cheers:

 

[muduck18]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

This isn't rocket science Darky, it's how to get along 101!

Having had these types of confrontations several times, as a renter, an owner, and offender...
"get along 101" is really just keeping a cool head, Getting advice from trusted friends and then taking slow, carefully thought out action.
That is what this thread is

If you think that rolling over and taking it in the tailpipe because he should somehow listen to a guy that has resorted to child like behavior over parking spaces you are wrong. Two blocks is a long way to go for a car that you use every day. I know, I did it in college.

 

[89RockHeep]

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but it appears you have the time to do exactly that, and come here and bitch about it.

You have a Landlord who did not guarantee you parking, which you believe you are entitled to, and you appearantly can't park infront of the place you rent (the polite thing to do).

You are aware that parking infront of someone else's place is "annoying" to your neighbors, you stated so yourself. It is impolite as hell to continiously park, uninvited, infront of someone else's private residence as if you own it. So why are you picking on this guy if you know he is territorial?

Wake up 22, you don't own <POOPIE>. When you do own <POOPIE>, you will feel just like the guy you are picking on.

So avoid the karma.
Get off your pride and get off the internet. Go have a beer with your neighbor.

Damn kids

He didnt park infront of the guys house, on the side,which is reasonable,As for owning "<POOPIE>" that does not seem like a valid argument as to the fact that its ridiculous.Just because some one doesnt have the good fortune to own the property they live in doesnt mean that its not theres, he signed a lease, and he pays rent, hes entitled to decent parking when and where he can, you know why its not in the lease? Because the city owns the street, so he has as much of a right to park there as any one else that lives close by it,thats like saying if he burned down the place it would be the landlords fault and hes not to blame.It works both ways. as for the marking paint, its called Tamper-Seal its about 3 bucks a tube,i agree that hitting all your lugs on the top where you can easily glance and see that it hasnt been disturbed would be a good idea.And possibly detour him from doing it again

 

[WB9YZU]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

Having had these types of confrontations several times, as a renter, an owner, and offender...
"get along 101" is really just keeping a cool head, Getting advice from trusted friends and then taking slow, carefully thought out action.
That is what this thread is

If you think that rolling over and taking it in the tailpipe because he should somehow listen to a guy that has resorted to child like behavior over parking spaces you are wrong. Two blocks is a long way to go for a car that you use every day. I know, I did it in college.

Well, actually, that's not what this thread has turned into. It has turned into a lynching party of someone you have never heard of.

You, and most everyone else here, assumes that WaXJ is totally in the right, but it would be my bet this neighbor has a slightly different side to tell. Something seems to have pushed his button, and the only way of finding out what it is, is to go talk to him.

Both you and Darky seem to assume that a nice chat over a beverage will not solve anything, and that of the 3 remaining options, that parking a bit further away, if that is what is required, is some sort of terrible imposition. If he had paid for a parking spot, I could see that, but he did NOT, so he gets what patty shot at.

But hey, you know, what do I care?
I'm just someone almost 2.5 times his age, giving him some sound advice based on weighing the pros and cons on going to war over a stupid parking spot on a street where he won't be living much longer anyway.

 

[muduck18]

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Well, actually, that's not what this thread has turned into. It has turned into a lynching party of someone you have never heard of.

Yeah that's exactly what I said. String up the neighbor for being childish about parking on the street.

Had you put your reading glasses on and read the ORIGINAL post you would find

The one time prior I talked to him I told him I would stick to one end to give him room. I have been doing that

Talking to him, didn't solve anything.

And I won't quote my advice again but please take the time to read it.
I am not calling for lynching.

He asked for advice, that's what has worked in the past.

and when the laws is on your side its much easier intimidate someone into giving up the fight.

 

[Darky]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

Well, actually, that's not what this thread has turned into. It has turned into a lynching party of someone you have never heard of.

You, and most everyone else here, assumes that WaXJ is totally in the right, but it would be my bet this neighbor has a slightly different side to tell. Something seems to have pushed his button, and the only way of finding out what it is, is to go talk to him.

Both you and Darky seem to assume that a nice chat over a beverage will not solve anything, and that of the 3 remaining options, that parking a bit further away, if that is what is required, is some sort of terrible imposition. If he had paid for a parking spot, I could see that, but he did NOT, so he gets what patty shot at.

But hey, you know, what do I care?
I'm just someone almost 2.5 times his age, giving him some sound advice based on weighing the pros and cons on going to war over a stupid parking spot on a street where he won't be living much longer anyway.

Ron, wisdom doesn't always come with age. You may be 2.5 times his age, but I would expect that you would've learned reading comprehension in that time, unless that wasn't a part of the testing you had to do in school back then. See, we young punks can turn the whole age argument around on you old farts.

BTW, my solution doesn't involve any sort of "fisticuffs", vandalism, or violence. All I'm saying is, there's no need to roll over and play dead to appease a bully. Appeasement doesn't work. Give him you lunch money today, tomorrow he invades Poland. Or something like that. He's not parking on the neighbor's property, blocking the neighbor's access or anything.

 

[WB9YZU]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

Yeah that's exactly what I said. String up the neighbor for being childish about parking on the street.

Had you put your reading glasses on and read the ORIGINAL post you would find

Talking to him, didn't solve anything.

And I won't quote my advice again but please take the time to read it.
I am not calling for lynching.

He asked for advice, that's what has worked in the past.

and when the laws is on your side its much easier intimidate someone into giving up the fight.

You assumed a lot there bud. You assumed I didn't read the thread in the first place, you assumed I didn't read your posts, and you assume that re-opening a dialog with this person will not resolve anything.

Edit:

...He's not parking on the neighbor's property, blocking the neighbor's access or anything.

Darky, What you see as a bully behavior, I see as territorial behavior. It's not the same, and something triggered it. I don't know what the cause is, but there are only 4 options from here. The easiest would be to talk to the guy. The second easiest would be to leave him alone, and he'll leave WaXJ alone. Parking someplace else is likely an option and we've already discussed it. The last is to move out. That tells the Landlord that they will have difficulty renting the property if they don't resolve the parking situation AND gets WaXJ out of the hot seat.

You want to advocate a war over a fudging parking spot? Youth is truly wasted on the young.

I'm done with this thread. It's like watching CNN !!!1

 

[trd_xj42]

I look at this thread like this.
I'll play the grumpy neighbor. Zuki-Ron can be WaXJ. This thread will be the street.
You keep posting in this thread, I don't like reading what you have to say, please don't post here anymore. By your reasoning, you should quit posting here and go post in other threads because I don't like it. This however is not my thread or your thread, it is the internet and we all have a right to be here.
Keep parking where you want. I used to get frustrated in college with this same thing, but it's just something you have to deal with until you get a garage/driveway.

 

[XJ Eric]

LOL, yeah man this has been a hoot!
Sucks to be you man. The letter is the best idea also talk to the LANDLORD!!!! They've probly been there long enough to know the guy. Just park where you can.
The landlord doesn't want to lose a renter over a PIA neighbor.
I lived on a street where one of the neighbors had 4 full size vans and he took up all of the parking in front of my place. Pissed me off to no end but I couldn't do anything about it. Eventually moved on to better living.

 

[Darky]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

Edit:
Darky, What you see as a bully behavior, I see as territorial behavior. It's not the same, and something triggered it. I don't know what the cause is, but there are only 4 options from here. The easiest would be to talk to the guy. The second easiest would be to leave him alone, and he'll leave WaXJ alone. Parking someplace else is likely an option and we've already discussed it. The last is to move out. That tells the Landlord that they will have difficulty renting the property if they don't resolve the parking situation AND gets WaXJ out of the hot seat.

You want to advocate a war over a fudging parking spot? Youth is truly wasted on the young.

I'm done with this thread. It's like watching CNN !!!1

My dog is territorial. She pees on my tires. I don't like it.

Territorial vs being a bully, same difference. Don't get hung up on semantics. Territorial only becomes a valid excuse if the WaXJ is parking on the guy's territory. Being a bully fits best. The neighbor is not being imposed upon. What harm is there in allowing WaXJ to park his vehicle in the street next your house? Point to one instance in history in which someone acted unreasonable and other countries tried to appease and talk, that didn't end up in war? We were signing a peace treaty with Japan on Dec 7th, 1941. Churchill and the rest of the Allies had made a deal with Germany to avoid aggression. We've had dialogues and set sanctions and punishments with Iran to stop enriching uranium. Where has it gotten us? Pearl Harbor was bombed, Poland and France were invaded, Iran likely has the materials needed to build a nuke like, right now. I'm not saying go nuke the guy, I'm saying keep an eye on stuff, if he makes any attempts at sabotage, report him to the police. Speak to the other neighbors, they've likely had problems with the guy too. He already attempted to talk to the neighbor. If the neighbor had a problem, he should've voiced it then. If he developed the problem later, he should've brought it up. If the neighbor has already been approached and is now acting like a retard, why would we have any reason to believe that further discussion would yield any improvement?

Where have I advocated a "fudging war" over a parking space? I swear, the wisdom of old age is wasted on those with no common sense.

 

[WB9YZU]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

If the neighbor has already been approached and is now acting like a retard, why would we have any reason to believe that further discussion would yield any improvement?

For some reason I feel a need to respond to this, even though it is the same exact rhetoric I have heard the whole thread.

Darky, people are a problem. They always have been, and they always will be. They come in all sizes, shapes, colors, and all have their own little kit of baggage they carry around inside their head.

As you go though life, you will find that some people are just high maintenance. You will find these people in all walks of life, and all income levels. You will have to deal with these folks. They can not be "taught a lesson" or respond constructively to any of the infantile retaliatory advice given in this thread. The only way these folks can be dealt with is by talking to them, sometimes on a consistant basis.

Is it "right" or "wrong"? No, it's just the way some people work.

Nowhere in this thread have I advocated the neighbor's behavior.
But, with that said, from his stand point, it makes sense.

Your approach has been, without knowing all the facts in the case (you don't know the neighbor's side of things), to assume that his neighbor is acting like a fruitcake and you would not go talk to him again. For some reason, that approach almost never works in real life.

I will leave you with one last piece of old person advice from my bag of old fart non-wisdom. An apology costs you nothing, but gains you everything.

Anyway, that is really the last post for me.

WaXJ, good luck!

 

[muduck18]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

You assumed a lot there bud. You assumed I didn't read the thread in the first place, you assumed I didn't read your posts, and you assume that re-opening a dialog with this person will not resolve anything.
I'm done with this thread. It's like watching CNN !!!1

My name is Mark, I respond to Mud, but never "bud", "chief", Or "Scooter".
I didn't assume anything; I read your post and it was obvious you didn't read (or perhaps didn't process) the thread or my posts.

As far as "resolution by talking" it can happen, but is not likely, children, or adults that resort to child like behavior don't listen, they think they are right and will not reason...
It never hurts to talk to them about it but here is one of my examples:

Feb 08, I went to my in-laws for the weekend and came home to a flooded basement. My neighbors had decided that my sump pump was getting their driveway wet, and moved the discharge for me to point it up hill away from their driveway. It froze, burned up a $200 pump, and flooded my basement.
I called them, we talked, I purchased a new pump a longer discharge and ran it further away from their driveway. we agreed that it was better.
Two weeks later
I had to go away on business for two days. My wife called me at the hotel and told me the neighbor had just moved the hose again.
I called the neighbor, we talked, my wife moved the hose back. Crisis avoided...not quite.
neighbor moved the hose in the middle of the night.
It froze. burned up the new $200 pump.
Neighbor called me. told me it was my legal responsibility to keep my water off his driveway.
He was wrong, but his childish behavior caused him to not listen and cost me $800.
It cost him $17,000 to build the county required culvert under his driveway to allow for my run off.
Child like behavior does not listen to reason.

 

[x2elite]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

Sucks that it cost you $800.00, but that right there is justice. HA

My name is Mark, I respond to Mud, but never "bud", "chief", Or "Scooter".
I didn't assume anything; I read your post and it was obvious you didn't read (or perhaps didn't process) the thread or my posts.

As far as "resolution by talking" it can happen, but is not likely, children, or adults that resort to child like behavior don't listen, they think they are right and will not reason...
It never hurts to talk to them about it but here is one of my examples:

Feb 08, I went to my in-laws for the weekend and came home to a flooded basement. My neighbors had decided that my sump pump was getting their driveway wet, and moved the discharge for me to point it up hill away from their driveway. It froze, burned up a $200 pump, and flooded my basement.
I called them, we talked, I purchased a new pump a longer discharge and ran it further away from their driveway. we agreed that it was better.
Two weeks later
I had to go away on business for two days. My wife called me at the hotel and told me the neighbor had just moved the hose again.
I called the neighbor, we talked, my wife moved the hose back. Crisis avoided...not quite.
neighbor moved the hose in the middle of the night.
It froze. burned up the new $200 pump.
Neighbor called me. told me it was my legal responsibility to keep my water off his driveway.
He was wrong, but his childish behavior caused him to not listen and cost me $800.
It cost him $17,000 to build the county required culvert under his driveway to allow for my run off.
Child like behavior does not listen to reason.

 

[Darky]

Re: Advise for unfriendly neighbor

For some reason I feel a need to respond to this, even though it is the same exact rhetoric I have heard the whole thread.

Darky, people are a problem. They always have been, and they always will be. They come in all sizes, shapes, colors, and all have their own little kit of baggage they carry around inside their head.

As you go though life, you will find that some people are just high maintenance. You will find these people in all walks of life, and all income levels. You will have to deal with these folks. They can not be "taught a lesson" or respond constructively to any of the infantile retaliatory advice given in this thread. The only way these folks can be dealt with is by talking to them, sometimes on a consistant basis.

Is it "right" or "wrong"? No, it's just the way some people work.

Nowhere in this thread have I advocated the neighbor's behavior.
But, with that said, from his stand point, it makes sense.

Your approach has been, without knowing all the facts in the case (you don't know the neighbor's side of things), to assume that his neighbor is acting like a fruitcake and you would not go talk to him again. For some reason, that approach almost never works in real life.

I will leave you with one last piece of old person advice from my bag of old fart non-wisdom. An apology costs you nothing, but gains you everything.

Anyway, that is really the last post for me.

WaXJ, good luck!

There is no need to give in to the demands of a high maintenance person. Your view seems to be that because this guy doesn't qwant WaXJ parking there anymore, WaXJ must have done something to provoke him. But as you stated, some people are high maintenance and will tend to cause problems. I'm not saying we need to get stupid and do something to teach him a lesson, but perhaps not kowtowing to his whims he may start to see that you can't try and bully people and get away with it.
Like the old song said, "You can't always get what you want..."

EDIT: BTW, I only mention age because you brought it up like we should respect your opinion or listen to you because you're older than him.