Its not like you're looking at a finished product here guys, its more complete now than it is in any of these pictures... we haven't even gotten to any gussets or supports anywhere yet. You're looking at a picture of a couple of hours worth of work into the building of a buggy thats going to have hundreds of hours in it.
Its eventually going to have tubes that run to the back corners like slant-back style, and its going to have some plates attaching the front pillars to the firewall area, and its going to have a C pillar and connecting tubes between all of the pillars...
And realistically guys, pipe is fine to use for a cage if you just use heavy enough stuff and use some brains in the design and support systems of the cage. Steel is steel, yeah there are different grades of steels but in contrast to the variety of different grades available, 2" thick wall pipe is heavy enough. We're talking the difference between a couple pounds of tensile strength differences and a tiny bit of bend strength in contrast to the thousands of pounds of tensile strength that this stuff is capable of handling. Compare the amount of tinfoil holding up the stock roof, to the amount of steel holding this thing up if its upside down. 8 cute little tinfoil columns held a 3500lb jeep up just fine, and we're talking about 8 columns of 2" thick wall pipe holding a 2500lb thing. If you guys need to be worried about anybody, its all the cageless stock-bodied jeeps running around, not to mention the ones that take the doors off of a cageless jeep. then you're talking about a couple of tinfoil molded steel spotwelded pillars holding a jeep with an extra thousand pounds on the underbody.
Realistically, this whole thread has been completely useless so far, Caleb was asking for ideas, maybe some pics of other peoples cages, and some helpful tips.. what he got was a bunch of hotheaded idiots telling him that his first two tubes aren't going to hold up as a complete cage. It was plainly stated that this is an incomplete project. :soapbox: