2008 Viper 600HP
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motorcityxj
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they are still sand baggin it, its 8.4 liter naturally asperated, it can make more than that, they been sandbagging since it came out and just loitering around on cubic inches when the old ones had 400 hp in 1992 ish.
Still sweet and still would be impossible for me not to go through tires like they are disposable napkins. Definately on my short list of cars i want to own some day.
Mine will have a turbo though for good measure
Still sweet and still would be impossible for me not to go through tires like they are disposable napkins. Definately on my short list of cars i want to own some day.
Mine will have a turbo though for good measure
ROBZ95Xj said:
In all reality, 2 turbo's on an 8.4 liter 10 cyl motor should make signifigantly more than 1000hp. I understand that those numbers are probably given with a streetable tune, but naturally aspirated the viper should make at least 750 hp. Take for example the Supra, with an I6 and a large single turbo, these motors are capable of making those numbers with relative ease. I've always felt that Dodge was sandbagging with the Viper, and It's my belief that they have only upped the power because of the numbers the C6 vette's and Cobra Mustangs are putting down. I mean, neither one of those cars have the shock value of a Viper, but I'd be pretty shocked driving my new Viper when I got waxed at a red light by a guy in a vette that he paid $40k less for...
the quote i put was with pump gas and at the rear wheels, the are a few that are puttin out 2000+hp on race gas, o yeah about them supras, there runnin a rediculous about of boost to reach high horse power numbers, all there good for is dyno runsAZ XJ said:
ROBZ95Xj said:
I figured those HP number's were with a streetable tune. And yes, some of those Supra's are running insane amounts of boost, but there are just as many running around with 900+ hp that have relativley low boost numbers. In fact, many are very streetable, especially on the highway, and good for much more than dyno pulls. A local guy has a single turbo supra that puts down 972 hp (I've seen the dyno sheets) at the rear wheels in street trim (only 19 psi). Definetly has some turbo lag at low rpm's but for it's size it spools pretty quick, and when the turbo comes on it's a rocket. But that's neither here nor there really. I'm not trying to hype Supra's here or anything, just playing Devil's advocate. Anwway, sorry to hijack the thread.. on with the Viper talk..
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motorcityxj said:
That is a lot of moter for a relitively low amout of power. Hell my 1.8 makes 100 horses per liter, if they tuned a viper like that, 840 horses NA stock... Im sure they don't for several reasons, but an 8.4 is a lot of motor.
LilRhodyXJ
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With VVT that thing must be fun to drive, I wonder what red line is with it. My buddy had a stock civic with V-Tec and it was fun to drive because you could just bury the tach all day and the thing would love it. Christ those s2000 with i-V-Tec are N/A 2.0L that tach at 9000, thats like rotary engine status! This years Viper deffinitly looks good though. Last model got a little weird and I thought they were going the futureistic way, glad they stayed around the same.
Andrew
-By the way go to youtube and type in GT TT its the new Ford Gt with the stock SC removed and a custom twin turbo set up. I'd rather have that!!
Andrew
-By the way go to youtube and type in GT TT its the new Ford Gt with the stock SC removed and a custom twin turbo set up. I'd rather have that!!
www.heffnersperformance.com there the ones that did the GT, they also got a TT Lambo, and not to mention the worlds fastest Viper that runs 7sec in the 1/4LilRhodyXJ said:
LilRhodyXJ said:
I happened to see that Ford GT TT on streetfire.net. Now that was some impressive shit. 1000+ hp with stock internals and heads, and i believe stock fuel delivery. Watching it walk away from that streetbike on the highway is a sight to see...
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LilRhodyXJ said:
Wow that's incredible... I'm totally aware of the capability of a Supra, but they still never fail to amaze me.
One Arm Steve
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Pretty unfair race, over a 1,000 HP against 175 RWH? I think the bike did great, add another 900 HP to the bike and then the Supra can brag all they want. If they win that is. I'll take me some American muscle over a jap ride any day. I would like to see all those ricers without the turbos. Not much to talk about then.
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DrMoab
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X2! Couldn't agree with you more.One Arm Steve said:
Although a 2500 LB car with a 1000HP compared to a 400 Lb bike with the same would be extremely unfair.
98XJSport
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One Arm Steve said:
What about the stock imports making 100 horses per liter? Don't see many engines doing that, domestic or otherwise.
Power is power, I don't care much what it's in or how it gets it, it all has it's place.
gregmondro
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I love fast cars, but Vipers have never really been my cup of tea. They just don't do anything for me. Horrible exhaust note, ice skating, and expensive? No thanks.
One Arm Steve
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98XJSport said:
I'm not putting anybody down. I know it takes a lot of money and time to put it all together no matter what you drive. I just love the roar of a V8, 4 poppers and V10's sound kind of funny to me.
98XJSport
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I know what you mean, we all have our preferences. I bought a toyota celica this spring, 2000. It's been an experience, im not the import type. But hitting 6K and having a cam changeover that sends you screaming up to 8K is an experience that grows on ya. Its not the same as being able to feel the cams talking in a big block, thudding into your chest... But its still fun. Just different fun.
And in any case I mean how hard is it to hit 600 in a 383 sbc for example? Much less displacement there...
And in any case I mean how hard is it to hit 600 in a 383 sbc for example? Much less displacement there...
One Arm Steve said:
VERY fair race. Your not accounting for power to weight ratio. 175 hp in a 400 pound bike is equivilent to a 1000hp 3500 pound car. Adding 900 hp to the bike would mean the Viper would have to have something like 10,000hp to be equal...
And im with you in taking domestic over jap anyday (front drive is wrong drive), but again.. it comes down to hp per liter/cubic inch. Making 200 hp from a 1.6 liter motor is just as impressive as 350 hp from a 5.7 liter.
motorcityxj
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AZ XJ said:
more impressive especially if you dotn care about torque (i do care about it).
but 200 x 2 =400 hp, and 1.6 l x2 =3.2 liters
i agree with you about fwd, i dont mind jap sports cars like rx7, 240sx, 300z, miata, nsx, s2000, sc300/sc400,supra, heck even the old rwd corolla are kinda cool. they kick ass. I hate the fwd ricers though.
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