Where to put tires with most tread?

[PstrKd4BrthCntrll]

I'm meeting a few people at The Cliffs on Sunday. From what I read, if the Cliffs gets muddy, it stays muddy.

My question is, Where to put tires with most tread? I got 3 tires with 40% tread left[1 is a spare], and 2 tires with 90% tread left. Currently I have the 2 better ones on back. Thats where they are suppose to be to insure that there is a less chance of a blowout in the rear.

Should I put the better ones in front because there is more weight up front so the tires with the better tread will dig better? OR do i put the better ones in rear because there is less weight in back?

 

[bgcntry72]

Put the 2 with 90% on the roof, and find a junkyard tire to match the other bald ones.
My $.02

 

[Urban Redneck]

Put the 2 with 90% at opposite corners, so when you flex, you still have good tread on the trail.

HTH

 

[WB9YZU]

I'm meeting a few people at The Cliffs on Sunday. From what I read, if the Cliffs gets muddy, it stays muddy.

My question is, Where to put tires with most tread? I got 3 tires with 40% tread left[1 is a spare], and 2 tires with 90% tread left. Currently I have the 2 better ones on back. Thats where they are suppose to be to insure that there is a less chance of a blowout in the rear.

Should I put the better ones in front because there is more weight up front so the tires with the better tread will dig better? OR do i put the better ones in rear because there is less weight in back?

All kidding asside

If the Cliffs gets greasy, it won't matter how you mix up your tires.

For maximun safety, the best tires go in front not the back. The reason is that is you pop a tire in the back it's no big deal except some fish tailing. If you blow one in the front, you will likely loose control, maybe even roll.

"Pester Kid 4 Birth Control"? Nice handle- Phisher

 

[WB9YZU]

From bgcntry72 via CP system:

Without a front locker the tires with tread will do nothing on the trails....

Agreed.

I don't know if he has, or doesn't have a locker, or even what kind of tires they are.

Generally speaking, in muddy, slick terrain airing down and driving techinque will make more of a difference than where he puts his used (40%) tires.

The intent of my post was to correct this missconception:

Currently I have the 2 better ones on back. Thats where they are suppose to be to insure that there is a less chance of a blowout in the rear.

As a rule, you put your best tires in the front, not for traction, but for safety.

 

[BOB]

read some threads on Cliff's. some of the MWC members have been over to Cliff's. XJ's may not be best suited for Cliff's. I don't want to bad-mouth Cliff's. I hear it is getting better. Report back, let us know how your experience was. Go prepared!

 

[IntrepidXJ]

read some threads on Cliff's. some of the MWC members have been over to Cliff's. XJ's may not be best suited for Cliff's. I don't want to bad-mouth Cliff's. I hear it is getting better. Report back, let us know how your experience was. Go prepared!

cliffs is fine for XJ's. but if you don't like mud, it may not be for you

 

[john290xj]

not crazy about it been there twice

 

[PstrKd4BrthCntrll]

For maximun safety, the best tires go in front not the back. The reason is that is you pop a tire in the back it's no big deal except some fish tailing. If you blow one in the front, you will likely loose control, maybe even roll.

Actually you're suppose to put the good tires in BACK. This is because you have direct control of the front axle[steering]. You dont have any control of the rear. Learned that in my suspensions and alignment class. Also call up Sears and they will tell you the same thing. I think Tirerack.com also has an article on that too.

I'm going to the Cliffs with a few GLJT people. We plan on just taking the easy trails.

 

[PstrKd4BrthCntrll]

We watched some videos of cars with blow outs. On one test, they set up explosive charges to blow out the tire. They blew out the tires on corners. They took a right hand turn and blew out the left front. All the car did was take a larger turning radus. They did the same thing but this time the blew the left rear tire and the car immediletly[sp] spun around. Also there was a video of a incar camera on a cop car during a high speed chase down a highway. A rear tire blew and sent the car into 3 complete 360's. Amazingly the car didnt hit any other cars of tag a guardrail. so yeah. Good tires in back. Doesnt matter FWD, RWD, or 4WD,

 

[WB9YZU]

We watched some videos of cars with blow outs. On one test, they set up explosive charges to blow out the tire. They blew out the tires on corners. They took a right hand turn and blew out the left front. All the car did was take a larger turning radus. They did the same thing but this time the blew the left rear tire and the car immediletly[sp] spun around. Also there was a video of a incar camera on a cop car during a high speed chase down a highway. A rear tire blew and sent the car into 3 complete 360's. Amazingly the car didnt hit any other cars of tag a guardrail. so yeah. Good tires in back. Doesnt matter FWD, RWD, or 4WD,

Interesting:

That pretty much flies in the face of what I have been told by experienced drivers, and the results of this study on commercial truck accidents:
http://www.retread.org/PDF/umtris.pdf#search='front%20tire%20blowouts%20and%20accidents'

An extended peroid of webserfing found both positions to be "valid". "Experts" on one side, "Practical" experience on the other. All seems to depend on driver experience, vehicle design, and the size of the sidewall.

 

[Rev Den]

I'm going to the Cliffs with a few GLJT people. We plan on just taking the easy trails.

There are no EASY trails at the Cliffs for a Jeep of any size. I have been there several times with the XJ and my quad. Hear me now, the Cliffs will never be a Jeep park until it gets bigger....it is a great quad park. If you are going with GLJT...make sure you have a winch...they won't.

Sorry to be harsh, but you should know what you are in for. I will never return to the Cliffs in my XJ, and I love muddy trails.


Rev

 

[john290xj]

Uh,why did you start the thread if you already knew the answer .

 

[IntrepidXJ]

There are no EASY trails at the Cliffs for a Jeep of any size. I have been there several times with the XJ and my quad. Hear me now, the Cliffs will never be a Jeep park until it gets bigger....it is a great quad park.

there are trails that are easy. i mean if a very slighly modded Kia Sportage can get around out there, a modded Jeep should be fine. There are plenty of fun trails out there that a Jeep can handle. #7 is my favorite, and it doesn't get as muddy as some of the other trails there. of course there is always the possibility of body damage, but that just goes with wheeling.

If you are going with GLJT...make sure you have a winch...they won't.

of the 15 or so members of GLJT, 10 have winches. sounds like a pretty good ratio to me................

 

[Rev Den]

Just going by experiance Randy....no harm ment.


Rev

 

[john290xj]

that is a good ratio

 

[OT]

2500# winches don't count.

 

[PstrKd4BrthCntrll]

It went pretty well. Considering i went with 2 stock TJ. One had A/T's and the other ones had All-seasons. Had to pull him out a few times. We ended up not taking as much trails as we could. I couldnt pass a valley because i was too wide[put my pass. mirror into a tree entering it] and would endup slipping off the pipe they have at the bottom and then really falling into the valley. So I backed up. Had trouble getting out of some tire tracks. We had out diffitculties as expected. The trails weren't THAT muddy. But they had mud in all the wrong places. Good thing there was a built CJ that passed by that helped us out. Besides my mirror, the only thing that "broke" was that a TJ's front swaybar poped off on both ends. That was about it. Twas fun for a 1st time. Next time I'll try another path. Didnt take that much vid oor pics. I'll post that i got.