What the hell happened to this chapter?

Damn - don't look at the boards for a few days and . . . . !

Anyway, I understand everybody's frustration - it's the nature of wheeling in the East, but don't get hung up on labels, guys.

We're all NAXJA members, and we all care about XJ/MJ's. Makes no difference if you're in Maine, Montana, or Missouri (right, 'Cher?), or even a few overseas guys. Being a member of a NAXJA Chapter is a convenience, but we're all part of the big picture. And NAXJA has always encouraged all of us out here in the East to participate in national events (Tellico, Attica, Colorado, Moab, etc.). Big commitments to do that, sure, but some have been able to experience XJ/MJ wheeling around the country

OK - time for a bit of long-winded rambling . . . . .

Long time ago (in the way, way back), as NAXJA was just getting started, there was a lot of debate about whether of not chapters were even useful. Many of the founding "fathers" in the West didn't care for the idea. But, out here in the East, we know we have that special problem (no place to go), and we thought that by having some more focus, it might help give a better sense of belonging. In those days, there was a concentration of members in Eastern PA, and some others of us scattered around the Mid-Atlantic, but we avoided the temptation of coming up with a purely local chapter and hoped that by becoming NAXJA's first chapter as "North Atlantic" we could eventually get better participation in other corners of the area.

There was ALWAYS heavy interest in trying to come with things to do in other areas: we had a run down to GW National Forest in Va, an initial run up to North Adams, MA and were always trying to come up with other Adirondack and New England locales. There even was a bit of thought put into a Nova Scotia trip!

Paragon (although pricey) was SOMEWHAT central - was a pretty good place to wheel, and was vaguely convenient to the group. So that's where we established our signature national event.

Unfortunately (not for lack of trying), recruitment in other areas didn't work out too well and after a few years a lot of the original guys got burnt (and I'll admit that after three NACFests :confused1 , I was more than happy to let Ben get slammed in the next two!), but then a more energetic NE group appeared and kept the ball rolling and formalized a Mohawk run. And I notice now that we seem to have a center of interest growing in Central NY.

We KNOW that there are a lot of individual local 4x4 clubs in this Region, and NO ONE is suggesting that folks don't participate there as well - but, this is a Cherokee/Comanche club - and operates as such.

People's lives change, their vehicles change, priorities change - but don't let that discourage anybody. The danger of breaking this chapter down into smaller pieces is that each of those pieces runs the risk of that localized group eventually getting burnt, with no replacements. While I understand the frustration of various folks, the value of having a wide area to draw from is that it gives a higher probability of finding the 5 people necessary to form the BOD for the chapter.

So, don't get hung up on the bureaucracy, find some interest and have a run, whether it's 3 guys or 30, you'll still be getting out. This chapter is what ALL of us make it.

All NAC BOD members, starting with John B. as the first prez, served due to a desire in keeping this place going, and tried to accommodate all of our far flung interests. It's not a career, and, as others can step up and run, please do so. It can only help to broaden activity in the chapter.

OK?

Mike in NJ :patriot:
 
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Mike in NJ said:
We're all NAXJA members, and we all care about XJ/MJ's. Makes no difference if you're in Maine, Montana, or Missouri (right, 'Cher?)

Right, Mike! I still proudly display the NAC sticker on a couple of my vehicles, and I still care about what happens in this chapter. There's plenty to do in the region, and tons of great people to experience it with. If you are sitting back waiting for others to make things happen, you will most certainly miss out.

Damn, I'd LOVE to get back to North Adams! I used to drive 5 hours from south Jersey, dragging my XJ behind my MJ up the NJ Turnpike, GS Parkway, NY Thruway and Mass Pike, shifting that poor Puegeot to keep the tired Renix 4.0 in its peak torque band with 3.55's and 31's. Some would say that sounds like an exhausting trip, but it was well worth it to wheel some beautiful terrain with some great folks.

My point, in a roundabout anecdotal fashion, is that you don't need NAXJA's blessing to get together with your NAXJA friends.
 
Lawn Cher' said:
My point, in a roundabout anecdotal fashion, is that you don't need NAXJA's blessing to get together with your NAXJA friends.
Ditto
 
XJ Beater said:
only place out my way i know of thats more or less legal is the coy hill area, and im not positive about the legality of going there, anyone want to chime in on that?


there's alot more around this area that you would imagine.. matter of fact i dont even go to CH because it has become the place that "everybody goes". i posted a food drive i'm running out in North Adams area, and all are welcome.

all this talk about nothing going on but no one is taking the invitation...
 
I agree - a great opportunity for those who don't get enough dirt time.

http://www.ilovejeeps.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106190#post106190

NAXJA-NAC participated in this as a group once before (3-4 years ago?) and it was a good, sunny day out in the Pines doing some very important 4x4 work. Besides just being a damn nice thing to do, it certainly was a boost to the crappy image that most of the public has of off-roaders, due to the behavior of a minority of us. IIRC, there was some newspaper coverage on the clean-up.

I'm ashamed to admit I haven't looked into this activity since then, and I'm glad to see that it seems to be firmly established as an "ANNUAL" event.

I already was tied up on Sunday, OCT 22. But I'm going to try like hell and re-arrange my plans and show up for a change!

It's a great time of the year to drive through the Pines, especially for those who haven't been. This is the one of the few (only?) places in Jersey where you can legally wheel and even though it doesn't have the challenges of, say, Moab Rim trail - things can get real difficult, real fast, in the wetter times of year. October is the perfect time to check out some trails for future runs.

So, if you're not doing anything special that Sunday - there's no excuses not to show up if you're within 75 miles or so. Weather's nice, gas is around 2 bucks, no rocks in the Barrens so it doesn't matter if you haven't mounted those skid plates yet, and here's a chance for everybody from bone stock to heavy mods to hang out together, do a good deed, and get some Ribs at Picallily's.

I really hope to get there and see some other NAXJA Cherokees and Comanches in attendance (besides, the organizers love us - we can carry more couches out of the woods than the SWB crowd! :laugh3: )

Thanks for letting us know, Ken!!!

Mike in NJ :patriot:
 
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I may attempt to get this in as well, but I don't know if I have the time, or if the XJ'll be in fighting trim by next weekend -

The persistant drivetrain squeaking I've been hearing is now getting worse - on the way home from the Quadratec tent sale this afternoon, I heard once or three times something that sounded altogether too much like what I heard when the pinion on my rear end loosened up a few years back.

Speaking of the Quadratec sale, how'd your MJ do in the show-n-shine, John?

Rob
 
I think it all comes down to me having not done anything in the chapter for the last two years and then moving away. You can all blame it on me. I give myself a lot of credit.
 
partsxj said:
How about this?

Wharton State Forest Cleanup - 2006
For those of you in the NJ-PA-NY-CT-DE area and beyond, here's a perfect opportunity to get some great wheeling, do a good deed and hang out for a fun day of cameraderie with other 4-Wheelers and offroaders.

http://www.ilovejeeps.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106190#post106190
Would it make any sense for me to go to that without a Jeep? My 4.0 is close to death, and I don't know if it would even make it to NJ. Will there be things for non-drivers to help with?
 
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Rob, it was nice to meet you at the show on Sat, It's a shame you missed Andy in PA by 15 mins. I didn't even check to see if I won anything, there was alot of nice TJ's and XJ's there so I didn't expect to. Here's a couple pics for those how didn't make it. John
 
warrior said:
Rob, it was nice to meet you at the show on Sat, It's a shame you missed Andy in PA by 15 mins. I didn't even check to see if I won anything, there was alot of nice TJ's and XJ's there so I didn't expect to. Here's a couple pics for those how didn't make it. John

It was nice meeting you too, John - made the trip worthwhile. Nice pics, too.

Looks like more than the parts were cleaned out when I finally arrived.

See you around the boards.
 
Mike in NJ said:
I agree - a great opportunity for those who don't get enough dirt time.

http://www.ilovejeeps.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106190#post106190

NAXJA-NAC participated in this as a group once before (3-4 years ago?) and it was a good, sunny day out in the Pines doing some very important 4x4 work. Besides just being a damn nice thing to do, it certainly was a boost to the crappy image that most of the public has of off-roaders, due to the behavior of a minority of us. IIRC, there was some newspaper coverage on the clean-up.

I was there with the MJ & matching trailer... it was a great thing to get involved with. Positive press is always a good thing. And the wings at the Pic are fantastic.
 
John.....the MJ looks AWESOME!

Andy, you did a 44 front axle? Waggy shafts? I would like to do one also, so sick of replacing ball joints and unit bearings every other year.
 
John B said:
John.....the MJ looks AWESOME!

Andy, you did a 44 front axle? Waggy shafts? I would like to do one also, so sick of replacing ball joints and unit bearings every other year.

Yes, long story, but I finally got it done almost two months ago. Alloy shafts, Waggy width HPD44 w/ an ARB and 5.13's. I was out for a shake-down run at PAP a few weeks ago, the 5.13's, 4:1, and 35's is a NICE combo in the rocks. And on the highway, about 2700rpm @ 70MPH. I can live with that. My drag link (high steer arm on pass. side) and track bar are not parallel, so I do have some bumpsteer, but its not bad.

Next is hydraulic assist, I'll have that done before NAC-Fest next year. I got a Durango box and sent it to PSC to be ported/polished and set up for hydraulic assist. I swapped it in, but just have the ports capped right now.

The tie rod is 7071 Aluminum Alloy (a very, very dense alloy but very light and strong) made by Fullcircle 4x4. When I got the tie rod, the two heims actually weighed more than the tie rod itself. Fullcircle uses this alloy for control arms on their rock buggies. It will flex some, but not bend or break very easily.

Nice pics John, it was good catching up with you. We'll get together soon and scratch that MJ!!:jester: It just too pretty now!!! That pic doesn't even do it justice. The paint is showroom clean on it!!

Rob, that place was cleaned out at 10:00am when I got there!!! I couldn't believe the crowds of people walking out of there with stuff!! Mostly all TJ though, I didn't see any XJ anything in the scratch and dent piles.
 
if things go as planned ill be wheelin with the big boys in my xj, ive got a few key parts lined up.:D
 
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