What the hell happened to this chapter?

[OverlandZJ]

This is not the first time the NAC has had a slow period with little activity, and i'm sure it wont be the last. It's not right to call out the current administration here like this....

Mambeau....i'm sure your intentions are admirable but this should have been asked through PM or email. Sure this chapter could be more active....but it would be a tougher job than say the Colorado or Cali guys where they have MUCH more open area to wheel. You wanna attempt to keep the membership happy from MD to Maine with monthly activity....run for office and give it a shot....it's not easy.

Perhaps there should be regional event coordinators since this Chapter encompass's a large area? That way the workload wouldnt be on the shoulders of the elected officials who may not have knowledge of whats available in a given region. Point is i'm sure they could use some help.

 

[Lawn Cher']

I said it in the members only area, and I'll say it again here... this club is what you make of it. Take some initiative and organize an event. When I was still in Jersey, we had runs to PAP or Rausch Creek or GWNF or western Mass almost every month. None of those were officially sanctioned except for NACFest, they were all informal get-togethers and did not require any blessing or oversight from the BOD. If you wait around for someone else to do it, it'll never happen.

 

[STROKER]

I said it in the members only area, and I'll say it again here... this club is what you make of it. Take some initiative and organize an event. When I was still in Jersey, we had runs to PAP or Rausch Creek or GWNF or western Mass almost every month. None of those were officially sanctioned except for NACFest, they were all informal get-togethers and did not require any blessing or oversight from the BOD. If you wait around for someone else to do it, it'll never happen.

HERE HERE, those was good days huh Mark.

STROKER

 

[OverlandZJ]

HERE HERE, those was good days huh Mark.

STROKER

But we only tolerated Mark so we could hang with Jen.....she was the real wheeler. :wave:

 

[Silverstreak01]

il put in my .02 i think nac fest was a great time. and it was really nice of you guys to let me run with you and hang out even though i am not a member. as said orginizing m and gs and to get people to show up is a pita. most guys know the people in there area with lifted rigs and they wheel. and to have a larger gathering once or twice a year to meet everyone and have a good time is great ! find the guys local to you and plan a run..


but il be in co in 4 weeks so whada i know.



keith

 

[Lawn Cher']

But we only tolerated Mark so we could hang with Jen.....she was the real wheeler. :wave:

Can you believe she's only gone with me once since we moved? She must miss all you's guys.

 

[Andy in Pa.]

I nominate Mambeu for NAC Pres. in 2007!!!!
Make some changes young Jedi!!

 

[Rob Mayercik]

If Mambeu's able to devote the time to it, sure, nominate him.

I'd like to be more active as well - I got out on Jon's July run as well as NACFest this year, but between work and other personal committments, wheeling is not at the top of my priority list.

Case in point - right now I'm taking a graduate class that draws 60% of its grade from a 50-60 page case study paper. I need to focus on that right now, and before I go knocking more powdercoat off my rockrails :laugh3: I need to address a few things on the XJ:

- Two rusted doors to replace (I have them, just need to bolt them up)
- Water leak in passenger footwell in heavy rain conditions
- rotting lower rear quarter panels
- delaminating headliner (that reminds me, I need to get one of those kits)

That's all going to take time I have precious little of. With an hour's commute each way, weekdays are pretty much out of the question, since things never go as fast as planned with me.

On top of that, the pace at work is likely to pick up again next summer (meaning possibly another stint of long hours).

Odds are that I won't get out on the trail again until after Christmas. It's not from a lack of wanting to, but rather from an excess of greater priorities.

Just remember - now matter how well you plan, expect to get overcome (overrun?) by events on occasion.

Rob

 

[gabe4]

I do have one complaint about our current Pres. Nathan keeps asking for his NAC-feast shirt, I tell him don't worry Ben will get it too us he said he would take care of it. So now everytime he sees a MJ he thinks your bringing him his shirt. He's starting to lose faith, he even said if there is Ben then maybe there is no Santa.:tears: :bawl: :rattle: Hasta

 

[gabe4]

Did I guilt into it yet Ben???

 

[STROKER]

OUCH that hurts. Apparently you have not gotten it yet which means it didn't get ordered, from someone else. I do apologize for that and I will get one made and get it to you.

Give me alittle time to get this done.

Again I'm sorry.

STROKER

 

[OverlandZJ]

"What the Hell hapened to...Mambeau"?

He slings a shitty stick like this then hides? Dude, you'v been checking in and no reply?

Here's a tip you may not have learned in your vast...12 months here. Dont make accusations,dont make demands unless you can back up your points with facts....and offer suggestions on how to resolve the issue you seem to have a problem with.

I'm sure your taking some shit from the other bullshit statement you made in the members forum...thats ok...you must be too good for the veterans of this organization...we'll sit around our campfire without ya. I doubt you'll be missed.

"insert illegal flipoff here".....

 

[gabe4]

I’ll defend Matt here a little bit, though I think maybe he could have done this in a different place, he’s just trying to get things going. There is nothing wrong with questioning the establishment. He’s been at every event that I’ve been and a couple M&G. Even Ben and John realize they have been unable to do as much as they would like. If this thread gets people (not necessarily the BOD) starting more things then it was a good thing to have said, even if maybe it should have been done else where. So don’t beat up on him to much.
It should be OK for us as members (no matter how long) to say “hey what am I getting for my money” and not have someone say well you do it then( which BTW neither Ben or John said). That’s not a logical response; the BOD was voted in because they were willing to do these things. I don’t doubt that it’s a lot of extra work that’s why I wouldn’t do it, but it’s also why I pay my membership fee to have someone else do it. The BOD needs to listen to its members or like in any business you will lose customers.

Ben I thought you did great at NAC-fest and I’ll try to make every one if I can. As for John, he is always the first guy I call when I’m looking to go wheeling. I’ll add one more thing, everyone who knows Matt will agree, he is always willing to help.

 

[gabe4]

OUCH that hurts. Apparently you have not gotten it yet which means it didn't get ordered, from someone else. I do apologize for that and I will get one made and get it to you.

Give me alittle time to get this done.

Again I'm sorry.

STROKER

My faith in man is back. Nathan's however will be tougher he'll start believing again when he's wearing his shirt.

Thanks Ben

 

[Menzenski]

"What the Hell hapened to...Mambeau"?

13 hour workdays this week happened to Mambeu.

Here's a tip you may not have learned in your vast...12 months here. Dont make accusations,dont make demands unless you can back up your points with facts....and offer suggestions on how to resolve the issue you seem to have a problem with.

What, your being around for four years makes you four times smarter than me? Just because I haven't been a member for a year yet doesn't mean that you should be able to shrug off what I have to say. The fact is that the North Atlantic Chapter seems to be just about the least active of all the chapters. Even the Midwest Chapter, which covers a substantially larger land area, has more going on than we do. I know people have busy schedules, and their Jeeps may not always be ready to go wheeling, but I'd like to see us have more chapter activities. Maybe something as simple as a chapterwide winter meet-and-greet. We could start to plan the next year's NAC-fest, check up on our Jeeps, and put faces to names. Or maybe we could put a wrenchfest together, if someone in the NAC area has access to a shop. There are a lot of things we could do besides wheeling. Do you have any suggestions, or are you just going to point your finger at me?

I'm sure your taking some shit from the other bullshit statement you made in the members forum

I haven't taken any shit from my response in the members forum; no one except you and Big Red seem to have noticed it at all. How is that really even relevant here?

thats ok...you must be too good for the veterans of this organization...we'll sit around our campfire without ya. I doubt you'll be missed.

You'll sit around what campfire? I didn't see you at NACfest this year. Seriously, though, statements like yours really annoy me. This is what I posted when I started this thread:

I want the NAC to be a chapter that does stuff, and I'm sure most of you want the same. What's it going to take to make that happen? I for one would be happy to put in some work to get the NAC back on its feet.

Does that really come off as holier-than-thou? I make a genuine post about wanting to help my chapter be successful, and you make a very petty, puerile response that the chapter doesn't need me. If that's really how you guys feel, I'm glad I'm moving away from the NAC next year. Except for you, though, I don't think the chapter feels that way. Most of the chapter met me at NACfest; I don't drink, but other than that I seemed to get along with everyone.

 

[CMNCHE]

Subscribing

 

[mdl]

I might run for somthing in the next election. Don't hold me to it.

 

[MrShaft696]

"What the Hell hapened to...Mambeau"?

He slings a shitty stick like this then hides? Dude, you'v been checking in and no reply?

Here's a tip you may not have learned in your vast...12 months here. Dont make accusations,dont make demands unless you can back up your points with facts....and offer suggestions on how to resolve the issue you seem to have a problem with.

I'm sure your taking some shit from the other bullshit statement you made in the members forum...thats ok...you must be too good for the veterans of this organization...we'll sit around our campfire without ya. I doubt you'll be missed.

"insert illegal flipoff here".....

yeah that was a lame attack at a legitimate suggestion, maybe in the wrong place, but where else is everyone going to read and respond to it. Duration of membership doesnt give anyone more credit to be able to state the obvious. Ive been on automotive forums probably longer than you have been using a computer,what does that mean?.... its the same stuff, I could have wrote your reply before it came up, there are always people that have to flame and I know what your reply to this will be so dont bother. I dont understand attacking people who want to see more things to become involved in... even if there were some un-official trail runs going on that would be a start, without the hassle of running a big event. Is there something we could do for a winter run or something I would get invlolved?"

 

[Andy in Pa.]

Matt,
There is one thing that needs to be cleared up here, if it were not for John B., we would not have a NAC chapter. I agree with John to the point that you cannot put up a post like this and not stay actively involved, 13 hour work days or not.

That being said, I don't think it was right for John to make some of the comments he did towards you, only because I know both of you and I know where both of you are coming from. So John take it easy on Matt, he is young and calls it as he sees it.

And.....please....lets not start saying stupid things like "I am on WAAY more public forums than you, blah, blah, blah....come on....we have this topic started, how about making it constructive and come up with ideas for things to do. I for one would like to see a M&G in the Philly/West Chester area again, because I have seen quite a few folks from this area posting up recently on these forums.

Stop the stupid inflammatory posts, it just doesn't help especially when your trying to get people together.

 

[gabe4]

I’ll defend Matt here a little bit, though I think maybe he could have done this in a different place, he’s just trying to get things going. There is nothing wrong with questioning the establishment. He’s been at every event that I’ve been and a couple M&G. Even Ben and John realize they have been unable to do as much as they would like. If this thread gets people (not necessarily the BOD) starting more things then it was a good thing to have said, even if maybe it should have been done else where. So don’t beat up on him to much.
It should be OK for us as members (no matter how long) to say “hey what am I getting for my money” and not have someone say well you do it then( which BTW neither Ben or John said). That’s not a logical response; the BOD was voted in because they were willing to do these things. I don’t doubt that it’s a lot of extra work that’s why I wouldn’t do it, but it’s also why I pay my membership fee to have someone else do it. The BOD needs to listen to its members or like in any business you will lose customers.

Ben I thought you did great at NAC-fest and I’ll try to make every one if I can. As for John, he is always the first guy I call when I’m looking to go wheeling. I’ll add one more thing, everyone who knows Matt will agree, he is always willing to help.

I should use screen names to be clear for those who don't know
Ben= Stroker
John=lobsterdmb
Matt= mambeu