What is it called.

[scoobyxj]

I want to find a program that will generate a list of (or a list of) all the numbers than can be created by by using 5 numbers, and the numbers 1-5 . I googled around a bit, but wasn't coming up with the right name to get what I want. I just need them printed out. Not the sofware that accually does the cracking. Anyone know of any, or what it is called so I can get better search results?

 

[Rev Den]

Excel.

Just start with your 1st number, 10000 and add 1 to every cell after that. Not exactlly pain free....but easy and quick.

Rev

 

[87manche]

http://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/Random/Random.html
something like that perhaps?

 

[BRIANHO13]

try searching for factorial (sp). I think that is what you are talking about.

 

[scoobyxj]

Kind of what REV is talking about. It is a sequence of five numbers one though five, and the the numbers can repeat. I would like to find a list, or somthing that would generate one. If not I guess I'll get busy. Does anyone know how to caculate how many combnations there could be? I came up with 50K, but I don't think I'm right. Math isn't something I remember real well from school.

 

[Rocketman]

Ahh guys.... pretty simple actually. Base 5 factoring

1st 5 to 1st +1 =6
2nd 5 to 2nd+1 = 26
3rd 5 to 3rd+1 =126
4th 5 to 4th+1 = 626
5th 5 to 5th+1 =3126

Total 3910 possible combinations. If you used all 10 numbers you'd obviously have 55,556 combinations. All 0's is a combination thus the addtional combo

 

[5-90]

Try looking for software that generates "permutations" (if they can't repeat,) or "combinations" (if they can.)

Using all digits (0-9,) there are the following possible numbers of solution...

Permutations (non-repeating,) 10!/5!, or 10x9x8x7x6, or 30,240 possibles.
Combinations (repeating,) 10^5, or 10x10x10x10x10, or 100,000 possibles.

If you're doing this as an exercise of sorts, have fun. If you're working on breaking something, there are a few tricks that can be applied (most fall under the categories of "social engineering" and "individual psychology."

5-90

 

[91Limited]

Ahh guys.... pretty simple actually. Base 5 factoring

1st 5 to 1st +1 =6
2nd 5 to 2nd+1 = 26
3rd 5 to 3rd+1 =126
4th 5 to 4th+1 = 626
5th 5 to 5th+1 =3126

Total 3910 possible combinations. If you used all 10 numbers you'd obviously have 55,556 combinations. All 0's is a combination thus the addtional combo

I'm not quite following your math...

I always thought it was 5^5=3125

you have 5 possibilities for each place in the 5 digit combination, thus 5*5*5*5*5

 

[5-90]

I'm not quite following your math...

I always thought it was 5^5=3125

you have 5 possibilities for each place in the 5 digit combination, thus 5*5*5*5*5

Not quite...

Assuming you have all digits available to you, the math works out like I showed you...

If you can repeat digits, you have ten options for each place. 10x10x10x10x10 = 10^5 = 100,000 possibles.

If you can not repeat digits, you start with ten and lose one each step - 10x9x8x7x6. This is expressed as 10! (ten factorial, or 10x9x8x ... x.2x1,) less the number of places involved (5 places, or 5! - 5x4x3x2x1.) Reduce thusly: 10!/5!, which can be written out longhand at 10x9x8x7x6, or multiplied to get 30,240.

So, if you can repeat digits, you have 100,000 possible numbers.
If you can not repead digits, you have 30,240 possible numbers.

Make sense now?

5-90

 

[scoobyxj]

If you're doing this as an exercise of sorts, have fun. If you're working on breaking something, there are a few tricks that can be applied (most fall under the categories of "social engineering" and "individual psychology."

5-90

It's kind of both. I'm wanting a list of the numbers that can be made from the digits one though five, five numbers long. Aside from trying to write all them down I don't know how to really generate such a list, or what to look for to generate such a list. The numbers can repeat, but I have a pretty good idea there are no repeats in the password I'm trying to break. I also it's not a simple pattern on the keypad. I cracked it once before, and that's what he used. I'm shure he tried to make it as hard as possable.

 

[5-90]

It's kind of both. I'm wanting a list of the numbers that can be made from the digits one though five, five numbers long. Aside from trying to write all them down I don't know how to really generate such a list, or what to look for to generate such a list.

Hell of a way to waste time. Now, wanna tell me why you're really doing it? For the most part, composing such a list is an exercise in futility, unless you have a fairly specific application in mind (and, if you're working against a pseudorandom combination generator, you'll want something analogous to an old-style "war dialer" to brute force the problem...)

5-90

 

[scoobyxj]

Now, wanna tell me why you're really doing it? [5-90

I just want to crack the performence password on my forklift at work. The top speed is already all the way up, but the acceleration is still detuned.

 

[87manche]

I just want to crack the performence password on my forklift at work. The top speed is already all the way up, but the acceleration is still detuned.

forklift wheelies!
Any possible way around the electrical governor? Perhaps a hardware solution is more feasible than inputing thousands of combinations.
If the acceleration is detuned than I would imagine that it has an electronic speed control. Perhaps looking into tricking it's inputs is the easier alternative. We did that to one of the amigos when I worked at microcenter. It was fun until the service managager told us to detune it again. Something about customers killing themselves...

 

[scoobyxj]

It would be easier to just crack the password. All the govenors are software set controled by the lifts computer. The rop speed is all the way up. They just detuned the acceleration to keep us from skidding the tires when they are plugged without a load on the forks. It's all changable by the control panel on the dash if I can get the password cracked. I never knew an electric lift could run so good till I started driving one of those AC Yales.

 

[91Limited]

Not quite...

Assuming you have all digits available to you, the math works out like I showed you...

If you can repeat digits, you have ten options for each place. 10x10x10x10x10 = 10^5 = 100,000 possibles.

If you can not repeat digits, you start with ten and lose one each step - 10x9x8x7x6. This is expressed as 10! (ten factorial, or 10x9x8x ... x.2x1,) less the number of places involved (5 places, or 5! - 5x4x3x2x1.) Reduce thusly: 10!/5!, which can be written out longhand at 10x9x8x7x6, or multiplied to get 30,240.

So, if you can repeat digits, you have 100,000 possible numbers.
If you can not repead digits, you have 30,240 possible numbers.

Make sense now?

5-90

yup i understand, but i thought he meant he could repeat numbers, and he was using only 1-5, not 0-10

 

[hotelfinder]

why....ask why.... but why... if you get hurt you will not be covered under your workers comp since you altered your fork lift.... LOL

 

[scoobyxj]

why....ask why.... but why... if you get hurt you will not be covered under your workers comp since you altered your fork lift.... LOL

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum NO! The lift wiil still be within the factory designed parameters. The thing still runs top speed now it just takes it longet to get there.

 

[87manche]

besides, we in the MWC like to live dangerously.