Welding ?

[karstic]

Building a new bumper/tire carrier and I'm using the Rockstomper trailer spindle hinge.

When I tacked the outer housing to the tire carrier the tack weld discolored the bearing race.



I assume when I fully weld the outer housing to the tire carrier that it may damage the bearing race. Should I remove the bearing race prior to welding?

 

[97CountryXJ]

Turn your heat down a little, looks like good penitration, but you could warp that race.
What kind of welder are you using? Medium? Voltage? Speed?

 

[karstic]

110v Lincol Welpak 3200HD Flux core wire

 

[corbinafly]

I don't think it's too hot, but I'd remove the race. Pics of your new cage or BAN!!!:wave1:

 

[97CountryXJ]

I don't think it's too hot, but I'd remove the race. Pics of your new cage or BAN!!!:wave1:

I agree, remove the race. 110V Lincoln should be ok.

 

[nick86]

is there anyway you can weld it on the back side?

 

[karstic]

Special tool or just a punch?

 

[karstic]

is there anyway you can weld it on the back side?

Not sure I understand your question. What do you mean by the backside?

 

[nick86]

long stick arc weld?

 

[97CountryXJ]

Special tool or just a punch?

How deep is that tube? All I can see is about three inches or so.
If you have a long soft metal (brass) punch and a good hammer, pop it out.
When done welding, clean the surface (the heat will blister the metal in the inside of the tube a bit) with a wire brush, then tap the race back in with the same soft metal punch. Easy enough.
If it is a deep (long) tube then use a bearing/seal remover on a good slide hammer. Make sure to adjust correctly or you could ruin the race.

 

[GrimmJeeper]

its just the pivot point for a swing away tire carrier right? seriously how much of a problem is it going to be if the race is slightly warped?

 

[karstic]

How deep is that tube? All I can see is about three inches or so.
If you have a long soft metal (brass) punch and a good hammer, pop it out.
When done welding, clean the surface (the heat will blister the metal in the inside of the tube a bit) with a wire brush, then tap the race back in with the same soft metal punch. Easy enough.
If it is a deep (long) tube then use a bearing/seal remover on a good slide hammer. Make sure to adjust correctly or you could ruin the race.

4" long

 

[karstic]

its just the pivot point for a swing away tire carrier right? seriously how much of a problem is it going to be if the race is slightly warped?

Yeah, but why ef it up if I don't have to?

 

[hellbilly04]

when welding it up work off the tire carrier material (drag bead from carrier to spindle) even though the spindle is thicker you won't have to worry about warping the race area too much.. Yes remove the race before you weld it up or may never come out again..


When I tacked the outer housing to the tire carrier the tack weld discolored the bearing race.



I assume when I fully weld the outer housing to the tire carrier that it may damage the bearing race. Should I remove the bearing race prior to welding?[/quote]

 

[Roxtar]

If you're worried about warping the race, how much worse will the housing be?

Buy a new race and leave the old race in to keep the housing warpage to a minimum.

 

[JeepFreak21]

If you're worried about warping the race, how much worse will the housing be?

Buy a new race and leave the old race in to keep the housing warpage to a minimum.

That's what I was thinking. You may not be able to get the race back in if you take it out before welding.
Billy

 

[jdogg4]

I used a rod welder AC/DC and it was fine. It’s been machined so it had a nice finish and your going to get that heat to it. One thing you can do is now that it’s tacked in place is get one of those weed burners that you hook up to the propane tanks and just heat the whole thing up nice and hot. Then do your finish welding, and let it cool down on its own. It will be discolored but the weld will be fine and the race inside shouldn’t warp. I’ve welded up two of those so far, and have never had a problem with warping on either of them. The key thing is get the whole thing nice and warm/hot then weld then let it cool down on it’s own and it should be just fine.

 

[FishPOET]

Pics of your new cage or BAN!!!:wave1:

Still waiting.....

You kept the new welder thing kinda hush hush. You know I need to get my new crossmember welded on. I might stop by on Sunday.

 

[karstic]

Still waiting.....

You kept the new welder thing kinda hush hush. You know I need to get my new crossmember welded on. I might stop by on Sunday.

You gotta know where to look. Check in the mountains.

 

[motorman]

discoloration and warpage don't go hand in hand. I discolored my a little. Worked fine for 5 years and still going. This is not a wheel housing that is going at 400rpm with a serious load. This is a tire carrier that will see 5000 partial revolutions in it's life time if its lucky?