Urine Test????

old_man

old_man

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Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a random urine test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Something has to change in this country - AND SOON!

P.S. Just a thought, all politicians should have to pass a urine test too!
 
Politicians can't pass a urine test, because snakes don't produce any
 
Mine did.
 
Ironically I am on my way to take a drug screening right now. We have to do it as per federal rules but we also have to do it to get on the various mine sites.

It doesn't bother me other than the time hassle.
 
Could you imagine the money saved if the USA would just legalize marijuana and the tax the heck out of it. Prohibition only worked for the gangsters, making them richer, it is the same with the cartels. Who have now whacked a US consulate employee and her husband.

Make marijuana growing a legit business, hammer smugglers and illegal pot farmers, tax the heck out of the final product, get MADD to increase the penalties for non-alcohol related DUIs.

I am opposed to random urine sampling. If I give you no reason to suspect I am using drugs, then don't ask for a sample. Similiar to innocent until proven guilty concept.
 
Meh, I see drug tests as an invasion of privacy. You might think it seems valid now, but think if we lived during the time of prohibition and you were tested for alcohol?
Certainly a few beers over the weekend doesnt impact your ability to work on Monday does it?

I just feel as long as you are safe and capable WHEN you are doing your job, it shouldnt matter what you do in your free time.

As for urine testing welfare recipients, I agree with that completely. Its one thing if you party on the weekend and go to work during the week. But If you have no job and are getting stoned/high everyday, you obviously arent doing anything productive. I feel all of your time should go towards getting a job, not getting high.
 
^ agreed (to Boatwrench)

I'm opposed to random samples of the public by the government, but samples taken by an employer are entirely legal and constitutional... don't want to give a sample? Don't apply. I went into this job knowing that, it was my choice.
 
kastein said:
^ agreed (to Boatwrench)

I'm opposed to random samples of the public by the government, but samples taken by an employer are entirely legal and constitutional... don't want to give a sample? Don't apply. I went into this job knowing that, it was my choice.
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Just because they CAN doesn't mean they SHOULD.

Legal and ethical are rather different things.
 
Exactly, legalize it all and let Darwin's Law sort it out....
 
but doesn't it do such a great job of babysitting? :rolleyes:

Cardinal Richeliu would love the current legal climate.
 
kastein said:
Politicians can't pass a urine test, because snakes don't produce any
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Not a problem, any pol that can't produce urine, alternate test: brain matter sample. Collect said sample with an axe.
 
Brain matter? Not sure politicians have the required "matter" to submit a sample large enough to analyze....
 
Here's an interesting thought: I live in Montana, and here we have legal use of medicinal marijuana. They have it pretty tightly regulated, there's only a few symptoms\ailments in their list that you have to have to get approved and I don't have any :( so I don't get to legally smoke pot. But I also work in a public school (not a teacher, IT support) and in the employee handbook it says they can and will (but have not yet on me at least) do random urine tests. So lets say a teacher had one of the illnesses that qualifies for medical marijuana and gets tested at work. Of course the test will show that they have been smoking marijuana or using it in any other way, but they were doing it legally. So if your employer has a "no drug tolerance" policy where if you fail you are fired on the spot, and they found THC in your pee and fired you, would that be discrimination? You are using it legally to treat an illness, so as long as you are not getting stoned while on the clock, I don't think they technically could fire you.
 
California wouldn't be so broke if they didn't have so many damn freeloaders.
 
kc0tma said:
Here's an interesting thought: ...
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That's part of the medicinal use argument/discussion that's going on here in CO as well. The "it's still against Fed. laws" always comes up.

I couldn't really care less, but the coverage it get's is so pervasive that it's hard not to hear about it.

I wish they'd just legalize it, tax the eff out of it, and call it a day. Treat it like booze with a higher tax rate. To treat it the same as coke/heroin/meth is fairly ridiculous imho. I'm just starting to get tired of hearing about it all the time. I don't care, but it's on the local news, sports radio, or newspaper damn near every day.
 
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