The scumbag is back

Louiville Slugger.....big as a tree
3 swings
1.Left Knee
2.Right Knee
3.WENEE...............
 
Little off subject as far as messing around with vehicles but has to deal with scumbags and getting them back. Anyways, my neighbors garage got broken into one night and the punks stole a bunch of r/c cars he had. The idiots forgot all the remote controls for them so figuring they would come back, my neighbor welded razor blades to the exhaust fan frame, where they kicked in the exhaust fan. Luckily for him he didn't come back but i would have hated to be that punk after he tried to climb in.
 
xjnation said:
used to happen to my brother.......a few well placed large capacity capaciters placed to ground and hot to the rim stopped it from happening again.....If Irecall correctly the perp ran off screaming like a little girl and left "skin" on the tire iron abandoned at the scene, must have been quite a burn from the shock

I really like this idea, but the 12ga sounds good too!
Billy
 
My brother hooked up an inverter, a tip alarm, a relay, a ground strap and the transformer for the lighting from an outside billboard (all the lights were on one transformer). It was a serious transformer. Sucker would burn a hole in the end of your finger from an inch or so. Remember the day we tried it out, asked our buddy Bradly, to go get a wrench from the car :wow: A transformer out of a junk micro wave oven would probably work as well.
My daughter was having trouble with a youngster, he didn't understand no. We had a little confrontation, when I was picking her up from school. I expected retribution, I let the dog sleep in the car. He digs it, his favorite spot. Sucker goes nuts when anybody touches the car.
To finish the story the youngster let his mouth override his good sense and threatened to beat me bloody, one day. He wasn't up to the task. I grabbed him by the ears and tried my darndest to twist them off. Non lethal, unforgettable.
 
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I see a lot of cowards here who would take up arms against a presumably unarmed perpetrator with the idea that it would be reasonable to do so. Personally I don't see it as 'what the law say', but more the fact that the punishment nowhere near fits the crime. Yes, I understand the safety issue...but if you're leaving vehicles outside and have no fence, motion detectors, or proximity alarms (on the vehicles) you are leaving the door open, so to speak. It's also highly likely that 99% of you goofballs who suggest wiring the wheels hot, swinging a solid object, or racking a shotgun would actually do anything if it came right down to someone coming into the yard. It seems unreasonable to me to suggest such things when you wouldn't carry them out yourselves. The internet if full of cheap talkers and people who find it extremely simple to type out their carnal fantasies. Quit feeding each others' desires and come up with some intelligent ideas. ;)

This being said, a simple case of good old fashioned surveillance or deterrance is a more feasible option and legal on your own property. Finding an angle to set up motion detector 'game cameras' is an excellent choice if one doesn't make a production out of the installation or places it/them in inconspicuous locations. Hell, even a video camera set on time lapse and placed in a window would probably do the trick. Personally I have used my cameras on our apt building to aid local LEOs and even the landlords to get folks evicted and guests criminally trespassed from the property. Motion detector cameras with IR illuminators make it easy to see someone dicking around in the shadows and the fact that they're wireless makes it easy to place them. They record on a second PC dedicated for that purpose. When someone walks by, a timer turns on the camera as long as there is movement and records for 4 minutes after the last registered move. Cost me a total of $300 for the cameras, which I guarantee is a lot cheaper than bailing out of jail for assault with a deadly weapon...not to mention the lawsuit that would follow. Besides, it's a new toy to play with and is totally cool. :D

I wish you luck in catching your bad guy. Just do something smart, would ya? :D
 
Citizens arrest is not a carnal fantasy, and this seems like more than criminal mischef to me, a face without a name supplied to the overloaded local PD is worthless. You supply an ass, and they can do something about it. We've done it before. The police show up, take your statement, and take your perp away, you file charges of criminal trespass (property must be posted) and attempted murder.(probably manslaughter)
 
We'll see, spent a couple of hours outside last nite and just got done checking the lugs on all 4 vehicles. Will continue doing so for a week or two, takes about 5 minutes total to click the 1/2" on them and check. Looking at rearranging the parking so they all face the house but that involves cutting a couple of trees down and a few loads of gravel. Hitting HD for some detectors and will look at some IR wireless cameras, ECKSJAY, what brand wireless cameras did you use and what was the hardware used.
 
I'm sorry to hear that you are going through this again, Rich.

Our home was vandalized on two consecutive nights last July. We suspect that it was my second daughter's ex-boyfriend, but he and his pencil necked buddies all covered for each other with alibis. They are all 18-19 years old.

They trashed both of my daughter's cars, one of which is our XJ. Scratched paint, eggs and sugar in the gas tank, eggs, chocolate syrup and ketchup on the house, dug up flower garden, etc. Total damage was over $3000.

I tried the "lay in on them" strategy, but the little bastard cowards did not come back. I ended up with a motion detector driveway monitor from Radio Shack and two motion detectors set up under the eaves on the front of the house. Each of these has a different alarm chime so I know what area has been breached.

I also added a motion detector security light on the front of the house covering the driveway.

If they come back, I will hold them at gunpoint, despite what ECKSJAY says. If they resist, then it will be their bad luck. I'll be damned if I will let anyone terrorize my family.
 
ECKSJAY said:
I see a lot of cowards here who would take up arms against a presumably unarmed perpetrator with the idea that it would be reasonable to do so. Personally I don't see it as 'what the law say', but more the fact that the punishment nowhere near fits the crime. Yes, I understand the safety issue...but if you're leaving vehicles outside and have no fence, motion detectors, or proximity alarms (on the vehicles) you are leaving the door open, so to speak. It's also highly likely that 99% of you goofballs who suggest wiring the wheels hot, swinging a solid object, or racking a shotgun would actually do anything if it came right down to someone coming into the yard. It seems unreasonable to me to suggest such things when you wouldn't carry them out yourselves. The internet if full of cheap talkers and people who find it extremely simple to type out their carnal fantasies. Quit feeding each others' desires and come up with some intelligent ideas. ;)

This being said, a simple case of good old fashioned surveillance or deterrance is a more feasible option and legal on your own property. Finding an angle to set up motion detector 'game cameras' is an excellent choice if one doesn't make a production out of the installation or places it/them in inconspicuous locations. Hell, even a video camera set on time lapse and placed in a window would probably do the trick. Personally I have used my cameras on our apt building to aid local LEOs and even the landlords to get folks evicted and guests criminally trespassed from the property. Motion detector cameras with IR illuminators make it easy to see someone dicking around in the shadows and the fact that they're wireless makes it easy to place them. They record on a second PC dedicated for that purpose. When someone walks by, a timer turns on the camera as long as there is movement and records for 4 minutes after the last registered move. Cost me a total of $300 for the cameras, which I guarantee is a lot cheaper than bailing out of jail for assault with a deadly weapon...not to mention the lawsuit that would follow. Besides, it's a new toy to play with and is totally cool. :D

I wish you luck in catching your bad guy. Just do something smart, would ya? :D


and all that hitech wireless cameras etc can be detected with a 4.00 bugg detector, even pinpointed. I can tell you one of the new pranks is to steal the security cameras
 
5-90 said:
I'd probably end up asking "Why didn't you just shoot the little @()#$*%@?" Problem is, this country is increasingly run by a bunch of nancies who don't understand defending their families...)


:us: Amen brother!
 
before id go with a gun id get a pitbull and stake him in the middle of the yard on a chain that can reach all the cars...train him right and i promise noone is goin to touch ur cars unless ur there to let them
 
If it turns out it´s a minor, better be careful about doing permanent damage or using lethal force. Your almost automatically the bad guy , in most parts of the country (world). I have my dog insured, he is a valuable pooch. But found out by accident, he can be insured for any damage he causes. To include, clothing and hospital bills etc. Think it´s an extra $60 a year or so, along with the regular policy.
If your expecting trouble, make sure everybody has there stories straight before the confrontation. A good defense is the clumsy defense, he did it to himself, while you were both falling over. All your family members, come out with the same story, slightly different.
I have outside lighting, hooked up to chimes. I keep odd hours and am a light sleeper, the chime goes off, I know which window to look out of and Werther to let the dogs loose or not. Darned cats!
Had somebody around here, who liked to put nails in front of the tire, so when you drove away you picked up a nail. I got so I´d back up some before driving off and always tried to remember to take a look see. Was always the same tire, same parking spot, two different XJ´s. I think it was a neighbor, whom I told to go park in front of her own house once. Glad she didn't slash the tires. With all the precautions, she still got me 5 or 6 times.
Tip alarms work pretty well, but they do go off occasionally by accident.
 
xjnation said:
cheap is right!!!!!!!!!! very poor resolution only 320 lines and 2 lux? I bought wireless stuff off of ebay for less money smaller units with 380 lines of res and 1 lux. That system totally sucks!
haha...I didn't even have to open the link. I saw Harbor Freight and new it would be a pile of junk.
 
Out of the mouth of babes, got this repsonse from the warnings I sent out to other people in the neighborhood.

I am so sorry to hear about something so horrible. Perhaps the boy that was in deep trouble that was sent to some junveille camp has returned home??? I believe he lives on Village. I know that people are suppose to be forgiven and have learned a lesson but maybe he is back? I am not saying he did this either just a thought.

Now I know a bit more detail and can ask around a bit and keep my eyes open for specifics.
 
If you were to happen to detain him, there is no proof that he did this before, unless you happen to record incriminating statements he makes when you question him. good thing about citizens arrest, no Miranda rights and teens are inherantly stupid (goes with the territory). Record, document, check legality with respect to local laws. Good luck, catching someone would be much more productive and leave you with a safer feeling at night than it just not happening for another year.
 
goodburbon said:
If you were to happen to detain him, there is no proof that he did this before, unless you happen to record incriminating statements he makes when you question him.

This brings a thought to mind: if you catch the little SOB in the act, do NOT touch the wheels or lugs and absolutely insist that the police fingerprint them. You may have to be enough of a PITA to them that they eventually give in and do so, but as there's a history of this (and I'm assuming you've reported it before), this may be the clincher between an arrest and conviction and just a simple 'knock it off' call from the cops at his home.
 
Another option is to enlist the services of a nephew or cousin who also happens to be a minor and able to remedy the situation...

Too bad you already posted on the net 'bout him...

I woulda kept my mouth shut and placed him on the back of a milk carton a while ago...

:firedevil
 
Gil BullyKatz said:
Too bad you already posted on the net 'bout him...
? ? ? ? I never saw any thread about Rich beating the hell out of someone. I don't know what the hell you are talking about?

Then again...if Rich doesn't leave any blood and is very good at hiding bodies it might not be an issue at all.
 
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