rweaver138
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Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread
^Those are nice :thumbup:
^Those are nice :thumbup:
THe NAC Lots-O-BFG KO2 Thread
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asp
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Colin, How much did you end up getting done last night?
For the first 5 minutes when I was on the phone with Carmelo last night, I thought it was Adam.
Colin, How much did you end up getting done last night?
For the first 5 minutes when I was on the phone with Carmelo last night, I thought it was Adam.
MoparManiac
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I was comparing my setup to Travis's last night to see if his setup is similar to mine (since he said he would let me wheel his for a bit
)
If he has a 4.3 Atlas, his 1st gear crawl speed will be almost identical to what mine will be on 40s.
So Travis...what is it?
Haha yeah I told Carmelo to check my phone to see who it was as Adam and I were cleaning the case down.
Got it all done last night at like 12:30 a.m....I just got to work like 20 minutes ago. Gonna have to be here until 6:30-7. I need to stop working so late at night. I was beginning to lose it. I mangled a new shift rail seal and was being retarded in general.
I was comparing my setup to Travis's last night to see if his setup is similar to mine (since he said he would let me wheel his for a bit
)If he has a 4.3 Atlas, his 1st gear crawl speed will be almost identical to what mine will be on 40s.
So Travis...what is it?
Haha yeah I told Carmelo to check my phone to see who it was as Adam and I were cleaning the case down.
Got it all done last night at like 12:30 a.m....I just got to work like 20 minutes ago. Gonna have to be here until 6:30-7. I need to stop working so late at night. I was beginning to lose it. I mangled a new shift rail seal and was being retarded in general.
asp
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Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread
Weird, so Adam was there...
I know the feeling. Remember the night I was dropping everything I touched? I've been quitting by 9pm, 10 pm at the latest... I find that I can only stay out till midnight one night per work week. That's good that you got it done though.
I want to fix my stupid mistake from last night really bad.
Travis's Atlas is 3.8...I was comparing my setup to Travis's last night to see if his setup is similar to mine (since he said he would let me wheel his for a bit
If he has a 4.3 Atlas, his 1st gear crawl speed will be almost identical to what mine will be on 40s.
So Travis...what is it?
Haha yeah I told Carmelo to check my phone to see who it was as Adam and I were cleaning the case down.
Got it all done last night at like 12:30 a.m....I just got to work like 20 minutes ago. Gonna have to be here until 6:30-7. I need to stop working so late at night. I was beginning to lose it. I mangled a new shift rail seal and was being retarded in general.
Weird, so Adam was there...
I know the feeling. Remember the night I was dropping everything I touched? I've been quitting by 9pm, 10 pm at the latest... I find that I can only stay out till midnight one night per work week. That's good that you got it done though.
I want to fix my stupid mistake from last night really bad.
5spd_xj
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read my sig, colin!
:doh:
read my sig, colin!
:doh:
MoparManiac
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I'm too lazy to read.
I'm too lazy to read.
5spd_xj
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Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread
bill, 38.5-40ish is what I'd like to end up at, but like I said a minute ago, it'll be awhile before I get there. my jeep needs multiple expensive things before I'll be ready to shop
bill, 38.5-40ish is what I'd like to end up at, but like I said a minute ago, it'll be awhile before I get there. my jeep needs multiple expensive things before I'll be ready to shop
MoparManiac
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asp
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Check out mah new sig!
Check out mah new sig!
MoparManiac
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Haha do they ever?
Haha do they ever?
asp
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Travis, wait and see what deals pop up.
Travis, wait and see what deals pop up.
vetteboy
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Oh boy...
The pump is the PSC hi-performance TC pump; and yeah I drilled the stock fitting out to 3/16. They give you a AN-fitting to use instead and I'll probably be changing this soon and making a new hose, as even drilled out the stock fitting is one of the last remaining bottlenecks in my system.
Box is completely reworked by PSC. Besides just being fully rebuilt, they install a dual-path spool valve in place of the stock one, and instead of the drilled/tapped 'lower' fitting (the bottom one, if you're looking at the box installed), they drill a new hole up by the valve and braze a hi-flow AN-fitting onto the housing. The dual-path valve then allows two outlets for the fluid, one to the ram and one to the piston in the steering box, so they operate in parallel. The homebrew drill/tap method puts all of the flow through the box first, which is fine for a stock-ish application, but builds up a lot of restriction once you try and flow through it much faster.
Hoses are all 3/8". All -6 AN fittings; no block/brass 90's anywhere. Mandrel-bent 45's off the steering box. I cut and re-welded the ram so the fittings point straight up, and the 3/8" hydraulic hoses run straight into it with no adapters. To improve the bend radius on the hoses I'm gonna swap these for another set of mandrel 45's and adapt the O-ring SAE fittings to AN as well.
Ram is 1.5" bore, 1" shaft, 8" travel. If I had to do it again I might go with a 0.75" shaft instead, just to balance it out a little better, but I don't really notice much of a loss in the retracting force vs. the extending force.
Basically, nearly the best hydro-assist setup you can put together.
But the cool thing is, you can build it incrementally. The homebrew drill & tap with cheesy 1/4" NPT hoses and brass 90's worked fine for a few years. As I started the go-fast stuff, I upgraded the pump. Then drilled the fitting. Then had the box re-done. Then went to the larger hose size & rotated the ram fittings.
Net result is the steering is XXXXing amazing. Even for the tight woods racing and high-speed stuff, it's responsive as hell and I can almost never over-drive it. I like it a ton better than even some of the 'better' full hydro setups I've tried. It might not be the most 'powerful'...but it's good enough IMO; if I can't steer because it's bound up, I probably need to reconsider where I'm at anyway.
Next time I see any of you guys, you're more than welcome to drive it around for a while.
Oh boy...
The pump is the PSC hi-performance TC pump; and yeah I drilled the stock fitting out to 3/16. They give you a AN-fitting to use instead and I'll probably be changing this soon and making a new hose, as even drilled out the stock fitting is one of the last remaining bottlenecks in my system.
Box is completely reworked by PSC. Besides just being fully rebuilt, they install a dual-path spool valve in place of the stock one, and instead of the drilled/tapped 'lower' fitting (the bottom one, if you're looking at the box installed), they drill a new hole up by the valve and braze a hi-flow AN-fitting onto the housing. The dual-path valve then allows two outlets for the fluid, one to the ram and one to the piston in the steering box, so they operate in parallel. The homebrew drill/tap method puts all of the flow through the box first, which is fine for a stock-ish application, but builds up a lot of restriction once you try and flow through it much faster.
Hoses are all 3/8". All -6 AN fittings; no block/brass 90's anywhere. Mandrel-bent 45's off the steering box. I cut and re-welded the ram so the fittings point straight up, and the 3/8" hydraulic hoses run straight into it with no adapters. To improve the bend radius on the hoses I'm gonna swap these for another set of mandrel 45's and adapt the O-ring SAE fittings to AN as well.
Ram is 1.5" bore, 1" shaft, 8" travel. If I had to do it again I might go with a 0.75" shaft instead, just to balance it out a little better, but I don't really notice much of a loss in the retracting force vs. the extending force.
Basically, nearly the best hydro-assist setup you can put together.
But the cool thing is, you can build it incrementally. The homebrew drill & tap with cheesy 1/4" NPT hoses and brass 90's worked fine for a few years. As I started the go-fast stuff, I upgraded the pump. Then drilled the fitting. Then had the box re-done. Then went to the larger hose size & rotated the ram fittings.Net result is the steering is XXXXing amazing. Even for the tight woods racing and high-speed stuff, it's responsive as hell and I can almost never over-drive it. I like it a ton better than even some of the 'better' full hydro setups I've tried. It might not be the most 'powerful'...but it's good enough IMO; if I can't steer because it's bound up, I probably need to reconsider where I'm at anyway.
Next time I see any of you guys, you're more than welcome to drive it around for a while.
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Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread
Tried to get inspected at my usual place on my way to work, the manager was there and most of the employees have been replaced, they told me it was lifted too tall... funny thing is it was lifted the same amount last time, just didn't have the cut&fold done. Oh well. Time to find another place, or stick fender flares on it to make the wheel wells look a bit smaller.
Also noticed that the damn zipties holding my front license plate on broke sometime in the last week or so, and I have no idea where the hell I left the plate, somewhere in MA/CT/RI :doh: guess I get to pay for a new set of plates AGAIN before I can get it inspected
tonight works, got the hoist loaded up, tomorrow doesn't as I'll be eating pizza probably, any night next week does too if you want.
Tried to get inspected at my usual place on my way to work, the manager was there and most of the employees have been replaced, they told me it was lifted too tall... funny thing is it was lifted the same amount last time, just didn't have the cut&fold done. Oh well. Time to find another place, or stick fender flares on it to make the wheel wells look a bit smaller.
Also noticed that the damn zipties holding my front license plate on broke sometime in the last week or so, and I have no idea where the hell I left the plate, somewhere in MA/CT/RI :doh: guess I get to pay for a new set of plates AGAIN before I can get it inspected
5spd_xj
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asp
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vetteboy
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Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread
Pictars added for clarity:
3/8" hoses make the ram look tiny. the 45's I'm adding will point off to the left (passenger side) to increase that bend radius a little bit.
The fitting to the left is the one PSC brazes onto the housing. this replaces the one that would ordinarily be below the one on the right.
Also note my fancy pitman arm nut. This is getting integrated into a sector shaft brace with this mounted bearing:
Pictars added for clarity:
3/8" hoses make the ram look tiny. the 45's I'm adding will point off to the left (passenger side) to increase that bend radius a little bit.
The fitting to the left is the one PSC brazes onto the housing. this replaces the one that would ordinarily be below the one on the right.
Also note my fancy pitman arm nut. This is getting integrated into a sector shaft brace with this mounted bearing:
XJLI
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oh dear lord. katy perry.
this pic will never die. i will quote it every day.
now off to work bai.
oh dear lord. katy perry.
this pic will never die. i will quote it every day.
now off to work bai.
asp
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Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread
don't forget about compound. TSL's have a good tread pattern but they're too hard... I'm sure if you're patient enough a set of creepies will pop up.
MoparManiac
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Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread
What do you like better about it over the full hydro setups you've driven?
Just curious as I haven't done any of my steering yet...
Oh boy...
The pump is the PSC hi-performance TC pump; and yeah I drilled the stock fitting out to 3/16. They give you a AN-fitting to use instead and I'll probably be changing this soon and making a new hose, as even drilled out the stock fitting is one of the last remaining bottlenecks in my system.
Box is completely reworked by PSC. Besides just being fully rebuilt, they install a dual-path spool valve in place of the stock one, and instead of the drilled/tapped 'lower' fitting (the bottom one, if you're looking at the box installed), they drill a new hole up by the valve and braze a hi-flow AN-fitting onto the housing. The dual-path valve then allows two outlets for the fluid, one to the ram and one to the piston in the steering box, so they operate in parallel. The homebrew drill/tap method puts all of the flow through the box first, which is fine for a stock-ish application, but builds up a lot of restriction once you try and flow through it much faster.
Hoses are all 3/8". All -6 AN fittings; no block/brass 90's anywhere. Mandrel-bent 45's off the steering box. I cut and re-welded the ram so the fittings point straight up, and the 3/8" hydraulic hoses run straight into it with no adapters. To improve the bend radius on the hoses I'm gonna swap these for another set of mandrel 45's and adapt the O-ring SAE fittings to AN as well.
Ram is 1.5" bore, 1" shaft, 8" travel. If I had to do it again I might go with a 0.75" shaft instead, just to balance it out a little better, but I don't really notice much of a loss in the retracting force vs. the extending force.
Basically, nearly the best hydro-assist setup you can put together.
Net result is the steering is XXXXing amazing. Even for the tight woods racing and high-speed stuff, it's responsive as hell and I can almost never over-drive it. I like it a ton better than even some of the 'better' full hydro setups I've tried. It might not be the most 'powerful'...but it's good enough IMO; if I can't steer because it's bound up, I probably need to reconsider where I'm at anyway.
Next time I see any of you guys, you're more than welcome to drive it around for a while.
What do you like better about it over the full hydro setups you've driven?
Just curious as I haven't done any of my steering yet...
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