THe NAC Lots-O-BFG KO2 Thread

[mini=man]

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I like those seats Bill, not in that color/leather but a black and grey with fixed headrest..

 

[asp]

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yeah, tall folk + tall seat in xj = head in roof

 

[RCman]

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That just reminded me of the one of the times you were riding shotgun in my jeep (was it NACfest...?) and you literally had to hunch over to keep from hitting the roof in the passenger seat :laugh:

Haha, yup NACFest. Exactly what I was thinking when I posted that.

I like those seats Bill, not in that color/leather but a black and grey with fixed headrest..

You can get any color combo you want. I posted that one as it was the closest stock photo that would match Mark's interior.
My Ultra's are Red, dark/gray black (they call it a carbon fiber color) middle, and gray synthetic leather on the outside.

 

[5spd_xj]

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never misses an opportunity to show those things off... .!..!.

 

[themangeraaad]

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why can't you press the bearings on yourself? which bearings are we talking about?

axle shaft bearings on the 9". I heard a number of people just say to get a shop to do it. If you happen to be some awesome bearing hammering fool I will gladly pay beer to have some bearings 'pressed' on :rof: I just have to plan and get the shafts out and bearings pressed on in the same day (since I want to do it in the garage so it's on level ground... aka so I lose as little gear oil as possible from pulling the shafts). The brakes are going to take no time at all once I get that done, knock on wood. Might have some trouble with finding a good length/type e-brake cable but that's not a primary concern.

i need to stop slacking on weeknights

x2, I will probably start as the weather gets nicer though. That or as I start getting everything I need. Going to visit my grandmother in a wk or 2 and to see how she is doing from he surgery and will be picking up some wood (my grandfather did alot of woodwork, since he passed away in 04 or 05 all his wood has just been sitting down in the basement). I am going to try and pick up a bunch of 2x4, maybe some 4x4, plywood, etc and make myself a work bench to leave out in the yard so I have somewhere to mount a vice/tools, aka somewhere to work instead of pulling out a folding table each time I want to get some work done (and putting the table away after doing said work). When I have to spend time setting up and cleaning up every day it kills valuable work time.

I haven't worked on anything on a weeknight yet. I usually don't get home until like 6:00 at the earliest and almost always have homework to do.

Weekends I usually spend about 12 hours a day outside catching up though.

I can't wait until this grad school crap is over, then I'll have time after work to do crap.

I don't even get that much done on wkends. Last few weeks I have been accumulating parts though. And yeah, I don't get home until 5:30-6 most of the time though I don't have any HW. I just have to keep an eye on my email incase something comes in I need to answer. idk which is worse, probably HW.


Edit: I want nice seats, but nice seats like those would mean no back seat. I still have't decided if I want to keep my back seat or lose it all-together. Maybe I will get a nice seat for the drivers side (which is already from a 4 dr so it doesn't lean forward) and my passenger can deal with a stocker.

 

[asp]

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axle shaft bearings on the 9". I heard a number of people just say to get a shop to do it. If you happen to be some awesome bearing hammering fool I will gladly pay beer to have some bearings 'pressed' on :rof: My brakes should be a 1-day job as soon as I find somewhere to get the bearings pressed on. I just have to plan and get the shafts out and bearings pressed on in the same day (since I want to do it in the garage so it's on level ground... aka so I lose as little gear oil as possible from pulling the shafts). The brakes are going to take no time at all once I get that done, knock on wood. Maybe have some trouble with finding a good length/type e-brake cable but that's not a primary concern.


x2, I will probably start as the weather gets nicer though

-i have rebuilt a transmission and worked on a small handfull of 231's. i have had to resort to using a press a few times, but most of the work can be done without it. i think you could do it with a solidly mounted vice with the bearing sitting on wood on the top and whacking the WMS down. but i'm not gonna guarantee that to work because i've never done it.
-the weather is nice already but my female body parts are bleeding.

 

[RCman]

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never misses an opportunity to show those things off... .!..!.

Nope! :spin1:

Edit: I want nice seats, but nice seats like those would mean no back seat. I still have't decided if I want to keep my back seat or lose it all-together. Maybe I will get a nice seat for the drivers side (which is already from a 4 dr so it doesn't lean forward) and my passenger can deal with a stocker.

Eh, mine were more of a spur of the moment thing. I needed a better seat for the 5-points, but could have gotten away with much "less" of a seat.
I wouldn't trade them now that I've got 'em though.

The only issue I would see with something like mine is the super high sides. I wouldn't want them on a DD or something that would see any road use. It is kinda a pain to get in and out. Once in though, the butt ain't moving.

Most of us lost our seating for 4 (or 5 if you have "Keith sized" friends) a long time ago. I didn't miss not having the rear seat at all when it was still my DD. Although, this is coming from a guy that likes regular cab trucks better than extended cabs.

 

[kastein]

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I wouldn't want to hammer on anything involving bearings. I did put my leaf spring bushings in with some scrap wood and a 6" bench vise though, worked great though it took me about half an hour for all four. For pressing bearings onto an axleshaft I would give the vise a try and if it didn't work, either buy or build a shop press.

 

[MoparManiac]

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-i have rebuilt a transmission and worked on a small handfull of 231's. i have had to resort to using a press a few times, but most of the work can be done without it. i think you could do it with a solidly mounted vice with the bearing sitting on wood on the top and whacking the WMS down. but i'm not gonna guarantee that to work because i've never done it.

Good luck hammering or using a vice on new axleshaft bearings. I wouldn't even bother trying. With a press it takes about a minute per shaft to put new ones on.

Most of us lost our seating for 4 (or 5 if you have "Keith sized" friends) a long time ago. I didn't miss not having the rear seat at all when it was still my DD. Although, this is coming from a guy that likes regular cab trucks better than extended cabs.

I liked having the rear seat when my XJ was my DD as it was a place to throw stuff that I didn't want to get dirty. Everything else ended up in the cargo area.

I didn't usually carry my 35" spare with me though, because if I blew out one of those things on the road I knew I'd be doing something wrong :laugh:

 

[asp]

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use brass and wood or a dead blow. as long as you're not mashing steel on steel it's alright.

 

[MoparManiac]

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use brass and wood or a dead blow. as long as you're not mashing steel on steel it's alright.

Nothing to do with steel on steel, it's the fact that it takes more pressure than you could exert.

Think about the amount of force an axleshaft sees in certain situations. Picture your rear axle flexed out, your jeep almost sideways, meaning the majority of the weight of the jeep is on the inner sidewall of the rear tire trying to pull the axleshaft out of the axle.

What's keeping the shaft in on a non-cclip axle? The bearing retainer. What keeps the bearing on? The pressed on collar.

You think hammering is going to get that thing on?

Good luck.

:cheers: Not trying to pick on ya, just saying. I wouldn't bother. Feel free to prove me wrong.

 

[masswrecker]

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I keep my back seat folded down at all times it makes the cargo area much bigger and its a pain to fit everything with it up

 

[kastein]

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Nothing to do with steel on steel, it's the fact that it takes more pressure than you could exert.

Think about the amount of force an axleshaft sees in certain situations. Picture your rear axle flexed out, your jeep almost sideways, meaning the majority of the weight of the jeep is on the inner sidewall of the rear tire trying to pull the axleshaft out of the axle.

What's keeping the shaft in on a non-cclip axle? The bearing retainer. What keeps the bearing on? The pressed on collar.

You think hammering is going to get that thing on?

Good luck.

:cheers: Not trying to pick on ya, just saying. I wouldn't bother. Feel free to prove me wrong.

I bet I could do it (know how much force is exerted on something when a 4lb mass hits it at ~40mph? a lot, but not for very long) but the bearings would not be anything I would want to drive on afterwards.

 

[themangeraaad]

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-the weather is nice already but my female body parts are bleeding.

Not bleeding, just sandy. .!..!.

Eh, mine were more of a spur of the moment thing. I needed a better seat for the 5-points, but could have gotten away with much "less" of a seat.
I wouldn't trade them now that I've got 'em though.

The only issue I would see with something like mine is the super high sides. I wouldn't want them on a DD or something that would see any road use. It is kinda a pain to get in and out. Once in though, the butt ain't moving.

Most of us lost our seating for 4 (or 5 if you have "Keith sized" friends) a long time ago. I didn't miss not having the rear seat at all when it was still my DD. Although, this is coming from a guy that likes regular cab trucks better than extended cabs.

I wouldn't get super high side ones, just something more supportive/comfy than stock. And most of my drives are longer so I don't mind "dificult to get in and out". Once i am in, I will be in for a while. So if I am comfortable I will deal with a little time getting in/out. And I plan on minimal back seat use, but there's always that once in a while occasion when someone wants to hop in. Wouldn't mind having it for the convenince factor, maybe I will just make any bakc seat passenger climb in the hatch That is starting to seem like a very valid option right now.

I keep my back seat folded down at all times it makes the cargo area much bigger and its a pain to fit everything with it up

That was my plan, just keep it so I have it if needed ever. Or lose it all-together and build storage areas there.

I bet I could do it (know how much force is exerted on something when a 4lb mass hits it at ~40mph? a lot, but not for very long) but the bearings would not be anything I would want to drive on afterwards.

my thoughts exactly. Could do it... don't know if I want to :laugh:

 

[mini=man]

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Most of us lost our seating for 4 (or 5 if you have "Keith sized" friends) a long time ago. I didn't miss not having the rear seat at all when it was still my DD. Although, this is coming from a guy that likes regular cab trucks better than extended cabs.

"Keith sized" friends are good though, can't drink as much of your beer.

 

[asp]

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Nothing to do with steel on steel, it's the fact that it takes more pressure than you could exert.

Think about the amount of force an axleshaft sees in certain situations. Picture your rear axle flexed out, your jeep almost sideways, meaning the majority of the weight of the jeep is on the inner sidewall of the rear tire trying to pull the axleshaft out of the axle.

What's keeping the shaft in on a non-cclip axle? The bearing retainer. What keeps the bearing on? The pressed on collar.

You think hammering is going to get that thing on?

Good luck.

:cheers: Not trying to pick on ya, just saying. I wouldn't bother. Feel free to prove me wrong.

i dunno. it might not be as pretty as a press but i bet it could be done.

correct me if i'm wrong (and i honestly might be, i'm not too familiar with my new rear axle yet) but the bearing presses on the axle shaft and the conical bearing sits in a race on the inside of the tube and a bearing retainer bolts on to hold the 2 together. i guess it is the press fit holding everything in... i dunno. about the tightest press fit you can have and still have a re-useable surface is .0015. i've worked with stuff that tight before and yeah it's tight but it can totally be done with a hammer.

 

[masswrecker]

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I thought about storage that would keep the cargo area level maybe some home built boxes with lids that top load the boxes so the lids would be part of the cargo floor and maybe a small access door to pull shafts out through the door opening. Im at work but I got it sketched up at home.

 

[Hackmeister]

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it would be able to be done, but i guarantee it would be EXHAUSTING. to put on the bearings to my axle shafts, i used the old school style press we've got in the machine shop at school. it is a ratcheting screw style press, where about 20 or 30 ratchet motions (with nearly all of my body weight) brought the screw around one rotation and down about 0.1". it's not the force to press it in, it's the fact (at least on the D44) that it has to be pressed down somewhere like 1.5 or 2 inches that made it difficult

 

[kastein]

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I have seen some really nicely built setups like that, but I need to deal with my floor rust before I go nuts building anything to go back there or it'll fall right through the floor.

 

[mini=man]

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I just make all the bisches lay down in the back. :greensmok