THe NAC Lots-O-BFG KO2 Thread

[ktm racer 419]

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sam's

i hear of yous talking about this place all the time, and the internets won't give me any info on it

i needs a website

or location and hours

or location and phone number

 

[MoparManiac]

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Also, need opinions on what clutch disc and what pressure plate to buy:

CLUTCH DISC
Hays
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAY-55-107/?rtype=10
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAY-40-107/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAY-40-150/
Ford Racing
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-7550-A302N/
RAM (Don't really want to spend $175 on a clutch disc...)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-305M/


PRESSURE PLATE
Centerforce (thought I heard people had bad luck with them...?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTF-CF361890/

 

[asp]

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http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Sams.800-521-8000

 

[5spd_xj]

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i just spent $320 on some more riding gear. oh well. i figure i save a few hundred bucks in gas each year by riding.

ouuu, what did you get?

Also, need opinions on what clutch disc and what pressure plate to buy:

CLUTCH DISC
Hays
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAY-55-107/?rtype=10
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAY-40-107/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAY-40-150/
Ford Racing
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-7550-A302N/
RAM (Don't really want to spend $175 on a clutch disc...)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-305M/


PRESSURE PLATE
Centerforce (thought I heard people had bad luck with them...?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTF-CF361890/

just get cheap OEM-style stuff, it's just a clutch so who gives a shit. no need for "performance" ones, especially since it's getting trailered, it'll last just fine. not like you're driving it everyday through rush hour traffic then beating the shit out of it on the weekends. and yeah, I forget exactly what the issue was, but I do rememeber people having problems with the centerforce stuff

 

[mini=man]

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http://maine.craigslist.org/bar/1652288293.html

http://maine.craigslist.org/grd/1659473109.html

 

[asp]

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ouuu, what did you get?

riding pants and boots.

 

[themangeraaad]

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riding pants and boots.

I gotta pick up some pants and a jacket soon. Like as soon as I put my paycheck in the bank and get my taxes in.

I can't wait to start riding to work though. I got in and saw 3 or 4 bikes over in the bike parking area and was sad I didn't ride... I think I am going to start as soon as I have new tires installed... I'm not going to trust my current tires for more than short rides around the town.

 

[MoparManiac]

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just get cheap OEM-style stuff, it's just a clutch so who gives a shit. no need for "performance" ones, especially since it's getting trailered, it'll last just fine. not like you're driving it everyday through rush hour traffic then beating the shit out of it on the weekends. and yeah, I forget exactly what the issue was, but I do rememeber people having problems with the centerforce stuff

That was all that Summit listed. Hays is the cheapest at $90. Ford Racing was like $109.

I looked at NAPA but they said all their clutches were remans?

I'm going to call my parts guy today and see if he can get clutch discs and pressure plates separate.

 

[5spd_xj]

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riding pants and boots.

very nice. Workboots will be fine for me heh. and if I get a dualsport I'll just wear my AXOs if I'm going in the woods

I gotta pick up some pants and a jacket soon. Like as soon as I put my paycheck in the bank and get my taxes in.

I just got my jacket yesterday Mia bought one for me for an anniversary gift.

That was all that Summit listed. Hays is the cheapest at $90. Ford Racing was like $109.

I looked at NAPA but they said all their clutches were remans?

I'm going to call my parts guy today and see if he can get clutch discs and pressure plates separate.

sounds good :thumbup:

 

[MoparManiac]

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For anyone interested, picked this up on a Pustang forum (clutch I need is from one). Good info:

Every company are going to have good and bad stores about them. You shouldn't buy a clutch based on the company but rather on the type of clutch and its specs. A lot of them get their parts from the same manufactor. You need to find out why type of material the disk is made of and if its a sprung hub or non sprung hub and if you want a full face or puck style. Next you need to find out the clamping force of the PP. Typically all diaphram clutches have about the same unless you go with an adjustable one like a the ones mcleod offer. I always tell people this and give them a list of disk types to make the decision easier and help them avoid buying a clutch they don't like.

Disks

Organic- OEM material. Engages like a stocker. Many factory clutches come with this.
Kevlar- More agressive than stock. May have slight chatter. Will hold more than organic
Semi-metallic- More agressive than Kevlar. More resistant to heat. Higher chance of chatter.
Carbon- More aggressive than semi-metallic. Abrupt engagement. Will chatter if you try and slip it. Should hold a lot of power
Sintered Iron- Way more aggressive than carbon. As it heats up it grips harder. On/off type of engagement. Likes to eat flywheels. lol. Very rough of drivetrain. This is basically a race only disk.

So those are the basic material types of disks. Some companies now mix and match the flywheel side with say a kevlar disk and a organic material on the PP side. This thinking was to get an agressive hold on the FW side but smooth engagement on the PP side. I'm not a fan of this. As you increase your chances of the PP slipping on the disk.

Then you have the shape of the disk. They have 2 options. Full face and puck style. Full face allows a smoother engagement and disapates the heat over the whole face of the FW. A puck style is geared more towards racing. More of an abrupt engagement (more lbs per sq inch theory). With an agressive disk material a puck disk has been known to twist or snap input shafts on hard launches.

Also there are disk that come with a sprung hub (springs in the center of the disk) and a non sprung hub. Sprung hubs allow a smoother engagement of the clutch. Non sprung hubs are more for race type setups. Again not really fun on the street. Non sprung hubs are also more stressful on parts.

Pressure Plate
Lastly, you have the pp. There are basically 2 designs as well. Diaphram or individual arms (Borg&Beck or Long). Diagrams are typically used in street cars and the individual arms are used in race cars (oval track, drag, auto xing). The B&B or long are adjustable so the faster it spins the more clamping force it gives. The B&B/Long are also much more expensive than a diagphram clutch. I gotta hand it to McCleod. Their website is very detailed and explains the differences between pp and disks. Very informative site.

So there you have it. A crash course in clutches. I wont get into the twin disk clutches as many people don't want to fork over 1200$ for one or 2000$ for a softlok type clutch. I did my research on clutches after I my stocker went. What I have found out is that the harder you are on a clutch the shorter the life span (duh, obviously). But the ratings some companies state are not true. There is no one clutch you can put in and forget about it. They won't last as long as you want them to.

So based on this, I want:

-Organic material clutch disc
-Sprung hub
-Full face
-Diaphragm style pressure plate

I'd like to keep my drivetrain intact and the chatter to a minimum. I think the Hays would be fine for this.

 

[5spd_xj]

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For anyone interested, picked this up on a Pustang forum (clutch I need is from one). Good info:



So based on this, I want:

-Organic material clutch disc
-Sprung hub
-Full face
-Diaphragm style pressure plate

I'd like to keep my drivetrain intact and the chatter to a minimum. I think the Hays would be fine for this.

hmm, that's cool. and pretty much right on with what I told you, just with more detail. and who the hell wants that in this thread? .!..!.

 

[asp]

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I gotta pick up some pants and a jacket soon. Like as soon as I put my paycheck in the bank and get my taxes in.

I can't wait to start riding to work though. I got in and saw 3 or 4 bikes over in the bike parking area and was sad I didn't ride... I think I am going to start as soon as I have new tires installed... I'm not going to trust my current tires for more than short rides around the town.

i almost rode today, but i have some stuff to get on my way home. i already have some gear, but i wanted some more comfortable and adjustable stuff. i already have 2 jackets, an expensive helmet, 1 pair of gloves, a rain suit, and a pair of leather-reinforced denim pants. the pants i ordered have a removable waterproof and insulated liner and the exterior has padding and insulation. the boots are sweet too. links:

http://www.newenough.com/street/boots/sport_street_touring_boots/sidi/fusion_motorcycle_boots.html

http://www.newenough.com/street/pro...ket/ballistic_7_textile_motorcycle_pants.html

 

[MoparManiac]

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hmm, that's cool. and pretty much right on with what I told you, just with more detail. and who the hell wants that in this thread? .!..!.

Yeah yeah yeah

I definitely don't want my clutch demolishing everything around it. So stocker style should be fine.

I was thinking this, the Pustang guys seem to like McLeod:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MCL-260130/

Little on the pricey side, but we'll see. I'm going to keep looking around.

 

[Begster]

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Words can not express how much I don't want to be at work right now, and how much I want to be back in bed.

 

[cmelo]

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What are you getting done on Tuesday?

Transmission goes IN party1:

 

[cmelo]

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Words can not express how much I don't want to be at work right now, and how much I want to be back in bed.

I slept ALL day yesterday. It's the first day I got to choose how long a I slept in god knows how long. After I did Easter stuff, back to sleep. Just woke up for school and have 8 hours of work after school. Today, I'm fine with that.


Just thought I'd rub that in your face:shhh:

Oh and as of Tuesday I will be winning the race:looser:

BOOYA

 

[Begster]

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Oh and as of Tuesday I will be winning the race:looser:

BOOYA

Not if I come down to work on it with you.

Everything I touch breaks. In Adam's words, I'll Begley your Honcho.

 

[cmelo]

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Not if I come down to work on it with you.

Everything I touch breaks. In Adam's words, I'll Begley your Honcho.

That's only if your powers to break things are powerful enough to overcome my powers to make things awesome. Again, a challenge I am not scared to take.

Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty: Honchoarty:

 

[themangeraaad]

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very nice. Workboots will be fine for me heh. and if I get a dualsport I'll just wear my AXOs if I'm going in the woods

I just got my jacket yesterday Mia bought one for me for an anniversary gift.

Yeah, I use workboots on the dualsport and sneakers on my street bike. I have never been too concerned about it. I mean, maybe I should be more concerned... but I still go with sneakers :dunno:

i almost rode today, but i have some stuff to get on my way home. i already have some gear, but i wanted some more comfortable and adjustable stuff. i already have 2 jackets, an expensive helmet, 1 pair of gloves, a rain suit, and a pair of leather-reinforced denim pants. the pants i ordered have a removable waterproof and insulated liner and the exterior has padding and insulation. the boots are sweet too. links:

http://www.newenough.com/street/boots/sport_street_touring_boots/sidi/fusion_motorcycle_boots.html

http://www.newenough.com/street/pro...ket/ballistic_7_textile_motorcycle_pants.html

Yeah, i gotta get some nicer stuff. Right now I have next to no riding gear and a relatively cheap helmet. I want to pick up one of those 2-3 layer jackets if I can find a decent one; so I can either have a non-wind resistant layer with pads for summer or throw a liner (or 2) in for fall/winter riding. Pants, I don't know what I will be getting, but I will get something soon so I can ride in with my work slacks on and just throw something over them. Boots... eh, still might stick with my sneakers. And my cheap helmet is doing OK for me so far.

Words can not express how much I don't want to be at work right now, and how much I want to be back in bed.

x2

 

[asp]

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Yeah, I use workboots on the dualsport and sneakers on my street bike. I have never been too concerned about it. I mean, maybe I should be more concerned... but I still go with sneakers :dunno:


Yeah, i gotta get some nicer stuff. Right now I have next to no riding gear and a relatively cheap helmet. I want to pick up one of those 2-3 layer jackets if I can find a decent one; so I can either have a non-wind resistant layer with pads for summer or throw a liner (or 2) in for fall/winter riding. Pants, I don't know what I will be getting, but I will get something soon so I can ride in with my work slacks on and just throw something over them. Boots... eh, still might stick with my sneakers. And my cheap helmet is doing OK for me so far.

you only get one body, and what's it worth to ya? i'd rather drop $400 on a helmet than $20k in hospital bills and end up a vegetable. just sayin. i'm not worried about my own riding ability getting in my way; i know my limits. i'm worried about the dumbass that doesn't see me.