THe NAC Lots-O-BFG KO2 Thread

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Before I do some digging:

Does anyone know how complicated it is to replace the wiring to the O2 sensor in the Cat on a 96 xj?

My exhuast hit the deck last night and took the sensor and most of the wiring with it. I didn't get a chance to really check things out, but I made it to the shop no problem to get the exhuast properly welded on.

EDIT: Also, can anyone suggest a decent beginner's setup to learn how to weld? I was told MIG welding should be suited for my purposes, but I wasn't sure what you guys thought. I've never welded anything, so it would be a lot of practice on scrap/junk.
 
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How much do you want to spend and how much do you want to "get into" welding?

If you have the cash, I love my Miller 211. I can weld with 110v or 220v (110v would be fine for exhaust work) and it has autoset features that will help you get used to fine tuning settings for your work.

It takes a bit of time to get used to welding in different positions and doing different welds but in this sport/hobby it helps immensely to learn how to weld.
 
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Just drill a hole through the rocker/sill and install it that way... :laugh2:

What part of the wiring tore? Upstream of the connector or on the sensor side of the connector? If it's upstream, it's kinda a pain in the ass, iirc it's part of the same harness that goes to the AW4 and transfer case indicator lamp switch + VSS. I've got a 96 FSM sitting on the desk next to me here if you need to know what color codes go where and such.

As for welding, I learned mostly OK with fluxcore. If you want to really learn to weld I hear you should learn stick first because it teaches proper puddle control, arc length control etc, though I seem to have not produced any outright horrible welds in a year or two with my silly fluxcore welder.
 
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As for welding, I learned mostly OK with fluxcore. If you want to really learn to weld I hear you should learn stick first because it teaches proper puddle control, arc length control etc, though I seem to have not produced any outright horrible welds in a year or two with my silly fluxcore welder.

This is bullshit. I've done all three, mig, tig, stick. Whichever you want to learn, learn. Don't buy a stick welder if you want to mig and stick welding won't make you an automatic mig welder. So just pick up whatever welder you want and learn it, for what we do it's easy.
 
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best bang for your buck, easy to setup, easy to use, portable, and will run off a standard 115v outlet.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200471413_200471413

i bought mine in 06 and welded everything on my past 4 jeeps with it, frame stiffeners, suspension links, brackets, bumpers, frame plating, motor mounts, drivetrain parts, etc. Never a failure.

I do use 2 or 3 passes on some of the thicker/ more critical stuff though. A more powerful machine would be nice, but I'm in no rush to get a new machine at all.

Sometimes this place has re-conditioned welders in stock for significantly less (what i purchased) I would have guessed it was brand new, zero signs of use on it.
 
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Just drill a hole through the rocker/sill and install it that way... :laugh2:

What part of the wiring tore? Upstream of the connector or on the sensor side of the connector? If it's upstream, it's kinda a pain in the ass, iirc it's part of the same harness that goes to the AW4 and transfer case indicator lamp switch + VSS. I've got a 96 FSM sitting on the desk next to me here if you need to know what color codes go where and such.

As for welding, I learned mostly OK with fluxcore. If you want to really learn to weld I hear you should learn stick first because it teaches proper puddle control, arc length control etc, though I seem to have not produced any outright horrible welds in a year or two with my silly fluxcore welder.
hahahahah :D

The part that tore was close to the sensor itself, but then the wiring wrapped around the driveshaft and smashed a good bit under my center console. When it's slightly more than 2* outside I'll take a closer look to find the real extent of the damage, but until then I'm gonna wing it. When I have more details I'll let you know what I find. I may have to bribe a :NAXJA: member with some pizza/beer for help on that one when it's bearable outside.

How much do you want to spend and how much do you want to "get into" welding?

If you have the cash, I love my Miller 211. I can weld with 110v or 220v (110v would be fine for exhaust work) and it has autoset features that will help you get used to fine tuning settings for your work.

It takes a bit of time to get used to welding in different positions and doing different welds but in this sport/hobby it helps immensely to learn how to weld.
So far I'm only looking into fixing my floorboards and help with exhausts when issues arise. So I would think it would be mostly light work.

Also, I saw your thread in Advanced Fab (I think) and your setup looked awesome.

I don't really know what price range I'd be looking at, what types to look into, etc etc.

I need to find someone who I can sit down and grill with questions, because I don't really even know all my options when it comes to welding. I don't know where to even begin looking for stuff that's decent and reasonably priced. I'm a total newb when it comes to auto work.
 
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Thanks for the info guys. I'll be looking at all this stuff tonight. I likely won't have the cash til after taxes come back, but when I get a setup I'll let you know how it goes and post pictures of my shitty welds so y'all can bust my balls.
 
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best bang for your buck, easy to setup, easy to use, portable, and will run off a standard 115v outlet.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200471413_200471413

i bought mine in 06 and welded everything on my past 4 jeeps with it, frame stiffeners, suspension links, brackets, bumpers, frame plating, motor mounts, drivetrain parts, etc. Never a failure.

I do use 2 or 3 passes on some of the thicker/ more critical stuff though. A more powerful machine would be nice, but I'm in no rush to get a new machine at all.

Sometimes this place has re-conditioned welders in stock for significantly less (what i purchased) I would have guessed it was brand new, zero signs of use on it.
i got the same one and its ****ing AWSOME! you can also get them at Tractor Supply i was able to get mine on sale for $400
 
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so... i thought ross's red jeep was totalled by the guy who bought it.

anyway, i either saw it, or a very good copy, red, 2 door, small lift, 31's, black wheels, sounded like a 5 speed, had a front skid though, even appreared to have a piece of flat plexiglass for a back window (not sure if ross ever got around to replacing that) no cool taillights though, just dumb regular ones. Even had dents in the right places from what I remember.
 
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anybody know if there's a reason a starter would ground out internally?
 
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so... i thought ross's red jeep was totalled by the guy who bought it.

anyway, i either saw it, or a very good copy, red, 2 door, small lift, 31's, black wheels, sounded like a 5 speed, had a front skid though, even appreared to have a piece of flat plexiglass for a back window (not sure if ross ever got around to replacing that) no cool taillights though, just dumb regular ones. Even had dents in the right places from what I remember.

last I heard he was srill hunting down a frame shop to get it back to spec. I ditched the black wheels for alloys on it, no front skid, and it has glass in the hatch.
 
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Cut more farts in your sleep. Free heat.

Eeew, imagine Ken farts?

This is bullshit. I've done all three, mig, tig, stick. Whichever you want to learn, learn. Don't buy a stick welder if you want to mig and stick welding won't make you an automatic mig welder. So just pick up whatever welder you want and learn it, for what we do it's easy.

x2. It's not the mystical black art people make it out to be, just spend some time practicing before you do anything critical. I agree there's no 'need' to learn stick before you MIG, especially because you probably have little to no use for stick welding when you're working on your Jeep. I have a Hobart Handler 180 I picked up at Tractor Supply for ~$600, and it's been good to me so far, and has plenty of power to weld 1/4", maybe thicker, in a single pass. The only downside, if you want to call it that, is it's 220V only.
 
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x2. It's not the mystical black art people make it out to be, just spend some time practicing before you do anything critical. I agree there's no 'need' to learn stick before you MIG, especially because you probably have little to no use for stick welding when you're working on your Jeep. I have a Hobart Handler 180 I picked up at Tractor Supply for ~$600, and it's been good to me so far, and has plenty of power to weld 1/4", maybe thicker, in a single pass. The only downside, if you want to call it that, is it's 220V only.

first thing i welded together were 2 scrap bolts.

second thing I welded together was my radius arm mount on my solid stock lca for my single upper control arm.

3 bent unibodies later, and its still on my jeep.
 
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Just pulled the trigger on my adventure for the next few weeks.

Flying out to Lake Tahoe on Tuesday the 29th, staying at Harrah's in Stateline NV for 3 nights and skiing two days at Heavenly, then driving ~450 miles south on Friday the 1st on US-395 to get to Johnson Valley that evening, then doing shock tuning with TR Motorsports and LII on Saturday, more tuning + maintenance + watching the Superbowl on a big ass Jumbotron by the bonfire Sunday, prerunning the whole KOH course with TR Monday, driving to Vegas on tuesday and going to the Hoover Dam + gun shopping + casinos if I didn't blow all my fun money at Harrahs, dropping the rental car off and hitching a ride back to KOH, then TR is qualifying on Wednesday + the King Shocks hosted party that night, watching the EMC and tech/contingency on Thursday + planning pits + maintenance, then the big race Friday, then departing (driving) for home on Saturday, getting back Monday night, and back to work on Tuesday.

Whew. :D
 
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x2. It's not the mystical black art people make it out to be, just spend some time practicing before you do anything critical. I agree there's no 'need' to learn stick before you MIG, especially because you probably have little to no use for stick welding when you're working on your Jeep. I have a Hobart Handler 180 I picked up at Tractor Supply for ~$600, and it's been good to me so far, and has plenty of power to weld 1/4", maybe thicker, in a single pass. The only downside, if you want to call it that, is it's 220V only.

If someone has access to 220 I would see no reason to get a 110 machine. Even if they think they'll use it at a location with 110. I'd rather bring something to where I have 220 than bring my welder somewhere that only has 110 to weld. I've done it before and it was gay times 30.
 
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first thing i welded together were 2 scrap bolts.

second thing I welded together was my radius arm mount on my solid stock lca for my single upper control arm.

3 bent unibodies later, and its still on my jeep.

Well look who's a ****ing hero!

I see what your saying, but I still would never advise someone to make their first welds anything critical. Always better to be safe than sorry, and some people take longer than others to get the hang of a welder.


Also, I just got my chromo's in from Randy's. Looks like my guess on what driver's side shaft I needed was wrong. Hopefully they'll take it back and just charge me a restocking fee. Now I have to figure out what shaft I really need...
 
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If someone has access to 220 I would see no reason to get a 110 machine. Even if they think they'll use it at a location with 110. I'd rather bring something to where I have 220 than bring my welder somewhere that only has 110 to weld. I've done it before and it was gay times 30.

Agreed. It's getting a little weird that we're agreeing on shit, wanna internet fight about it?
 
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